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16:53:21 <trackbot> Meeting: Audio Working Group Teleconference
16:53:21 <trackbot> Date: 11 February 2016
16:53:50 <mdjp> Agenda+ Audioworker 1 Update on Houdini worklet timelines and impact on Audio Worker.
16:54:01 <mdjp> Agenda+ Audioworker 2 How the audio group may assist in the development of the worklet spec.
16:54:09 <mdjp> Agenda+ Candidate Recommendation timeline and scope.
16:54:17 <mdjp> Agenda+ New and Uncommitted issues
16:54:26 <mdjp> Agenda+ Date of next meeting
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17:01:09 <rtoyg_m> present+ rtoyg_m
17:02:02 <mdjp> has anyone managed to get into webex? I can't at the moment.
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17:02:48 <rtoyg_m> We can't either.  It says the code is invalid.
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17:04:57 <BillHofmann> does someone need to have a "host code"?
17:04:57 <mdjp> present+ mdjp
17:05:24 <BillHofmann> web for webex shows no audio option, but Chris Lilley as host...
17:05:39 <mdjp> yes - I do but its not working, trying to get hold of Chris L as he set it up
17:07:02 <mdjp> chris is on his way - please hold......
17:08:33 <mdjp> if it were possible I'd play you some soothing music....
17:09:22 <BillHofmann> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuABhumm6fY
17:10:11 <rtoyg_m> Not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI__53kBBKM ?
17:10:59 <rtoyg_m> Or maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5PvBzDlZGs
17:11:15 <BillHofmann> call is up
17:12:20 <hongchan> we're in (Google)
17:13:22 <rtoyg_m> Better?
17:13:32 <hongchan> (we just muted our mic.)
17:13:32 <mdjp> agenda?
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17:14:01 <mdjp> zakim, take up agendum 1
17:14:01 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Audioworker 1 Update on Houdini worklet timelines and impact on Audio Worker." taken up [from mdjp]
17:14:46 <BillHofmann> (SCRIBE for today?  Can't do it...)
17:15:05 <ChrisL> scribenick: ChrisL
17:15:27 <ChrisL> matt: we can't go to CR without audio worker, just not possible
17:15:52 <ChrisL> ... response from ian Kilpatrick about recent updates but dependency on worklet and web modules
17:16:06 <ChrisL> chair: Matt
17:16:39 <ChrisL> matt: Joe has invited ian to attend our call in 2 weeks time, to understand the dependencies
17:17:34 <rtoyg_m> Can you hear us?
17:17:44 <ChrisL> BillHofmann: agree, and we need to help that work ourselves
17:17:49 <hongchan> Ian is here with us today.
17:18:04 <hongchan> Seems like our mic is not working.
17:18:08 <iank> hi!
17:18:21 <hongchan> We're gonna drop to call and reconnect.
17:18:42 <rtoyg_m> Off call now, so we can't hear you.
17:19:19 <rtoyg_m> Back on call.
17:19:59 <ChrisL> matt: Paul is not with us this week (skiing!) so we hope to discuss this in two weeks. Can you join?
17:20:06 <ChrisL> iank: yes, can do
17:20:34 <ChrisL> matt: could you give us a brief description of the dependency?
17:21:22 <ChrisL> iank: it is on modules loading, which allows you to load code a different way, not in an execution context. you are isolated from main page scripts and has ES6 featureslike import of dependency scripts, too
17:21:54 <ChrisL> iank: can find what the timelines are for the latter part. if it is too long we can hack around
17:22:06 <ChrisL> matt: ok so not as serious a delay as we thought
17:22:37 <ChrisL> iank: implementing a main thread version of worklets, atthe moment. Not that much work to do it in the module way, going forward
17:22:54 <ChrisL> matt: do we have a rought timeline
17:23:21 <ChrisL> iank: FPWD on worklets was decided at Houdini last week. No concerns from browser vendors.
17:23:34 <ChrisL> ... so wider review from other groups is welcome
17:23:54 <ChrisL> matt: look forward to email discussion prior to the phone call in two weeks
17:24:09 <ChrisL> matt: any other questions?
17:24:13 <ChrisL> (none)
17:24:29 <mdjp> zakim, take up agendum 2
17:24:29 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Audioworker 2 How the audio group may assist in the development of the worklet spec." taken up [from mdjp]
17:24:41 <ChrisL> matt: so, how can we help?
17:25:27 <ChrisL> iank: everything is on github so file issues
17:25:43 <ChrisL> iank do you have a quick link for the minutes
17:25:54 <iank> https://drafts.css-houdini.org/worklets/
17:26:19 <mdjp> zakim, take up agendum 3
17:26:19 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Candidate Recommendation timeline and scope." taken up [from mdjp]
17:27:56 <ChrisL> matt: so in this charter period, we expect to be in CR. Recharter to kick off v.2
17:28:31 <ChrisL> rtoyg: That sounds good
17:28:58 <rtoyg_m> Hmm.  I didn't say anything.
17:29:21 <ChrisL> s/rtoyg/Bill
17:29:38 <ChrisL> ChrisL: (explains CR process and testing)
17:30:15 <ChrisL> BillHofmann: what other large work items are there, besides audio worker and tests. We should discuss next call
17:30:52 <ChrisL> BillHofmann: There is a big review item on must/should/may and RFC2119
17:31:11 <ChrisL> ... and we don't want to start that until we are done, so that we don't redo it
17:31:39 <ChrisL> matt: we need to be in CR well before September
17:32:00 <mdjp> zakim, take up agendum 4
17:32:00 <Zakim> agendum 4. "New and Uncommitted issues" taken up [from mdjp]
17:32:31 <mdjp> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+no%3Amilestone
17:33:01 <ChrisL> matt: property bag issues raised by ray. only comment on channel count so far
17:33:22 <ChrisL> ... so you are looking for review and sanity check?
17:33:50 <ChrisL> rtoyg: yes. Mostly they are pretty obvious. Nodes don't have consistent attributes
17:34:25 <ChrisL> matt: propert bag for script processor is easy, as we deprecated it
17:34:33 <ChrisL> rtoyg: same for panner node
17:34:56 <ChrisL> ... nice to have constructors for them, even if deprecated
17:35:06 <ChrisL> matt: do these now or offline?
17:35:21 <ChrisL> rtoyg: not high priority, offline is fine as long as it gets done
17:35:34 <mdjp> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/717
17:36:20 <ChrisL> hongchan: that one is easy, ready for editing
17:36:29 <ChrisL> matt: ok ready for editing and v.1
17:36:30 <mdjp> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/713
17:36:35 <hongchan> (that was rtoy)
17:36:36 <rtoyg_m> That was matt, not hongchan
17:37:34 <ChrisL> s/hongchan: that/matt: that
17:38:23 <ChrisL> matt: so this is to construct a ramp that already started?
17:39:45 <MPozdnyakov> Hi, unfortunately I'm not able to join the call atm. However is it possible to discuss also https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/12 among other issues?
17:40:23 <ChrisL> matt: can't resolve without Paul and ChrisW. Needs WG review
17:41:22 <ChrisL> matt: other issues for today's call?
17:41:42 <rtoyg_m> ChrisL:  Example is setValueAtTime(1, 0), wait 1 sec, then linearRampToValue(10, 0.5).  The linearRamp is in the past,  What is the value at currentTime (1 sec)? 1? 10?
17:41:57 <ChrisL> matt: issue 12 clearly needs working group review. As Bill mentioned this is in the contentious category
17:42:39 <ChrisL> matt: this has come up repeatedly and has a lot of detail in the issue. Needs f2f time
17:44:29 <hongchan> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/692
17:44:49 <ChrisL> (692 is closed)
17:45:26 <rtoyg_m> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/348#issuecomment-175384138
17:46:27 <ChrisL> (people read the issue and ponder)
17:47:18 <ChrisL> hongchan: there was a question on why not make it a number. and how to make it work reliably. a fine-grained way.
17:47:30 <hongchan> (it was rtoy)
17:47:33 <ChrisL> matt: re-open the issue, then?
17:49:02 <ChrisL> s/hongchan: there/rtoy: there
17:49:47 <ChrisL> matt: put back into WG Review state
17:50:50 <ChrisL> matt: end of agenda for today. f2f date is confirmed.
17:51:10 <ChrisL> matt: next call in two weeks, 25 Feb
17:51:44 <ChrisL> ... topic will be audio worker, also closing off property bag issues
17:51:51 <ChrisL> (adjourned)
17:51:58 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
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17:55:17 <ChrisL> regrets: joe, paul, chrisw
17:55:20 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
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