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18:02:09 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
18:02:10 <aaronpk> present+
18:02:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Social Web Working Group Teleconference
18:02:10 <trackbot> Date: 09 February 2016
18:02:14 <wilkie> present+
18:02:16 <tantek> present+
18:02:16 <bengo> present+
18:02:22 <ben_thatmustbeme> presen+
18:02:25 <dromasca> +
18:02:26 <ben_thatmustbeme> present+
18:02:35 <akuckartz> present+
18:02:36 <Arnaud> present+
18:02:36 <dromasca> present+
18:02:57 <ben_thatmustbeme> i can minute
18:03:05 <ben_thatmustbeme> scribenick: ben_thatmustbeme
18:03:15 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-02-09
18:03:20 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: lets get started
18:03:31 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... we have two sets of minutes to approve
18:03:39 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-01-26-minutes
18:03:54 <AnnB> present+
18:03:55 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... the first set from Jan 26th, look a bit odd
18:04:04 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... has anyone had a chance to review these minutes?
18:04:12 <tsyesika> present+
18:04:25 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... (hearing nothing) well thats not a good sign
18:04:26 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-02-02-minutes
18:04:37 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... the other set of minutes is from last week
18:04:37 <eprodrom> present+ eprodrom
18:04:53 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-02-02-minutes
18:04:57 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... which look a bit better
18:05:26 <sandro> present+
18:05:40 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: I am the one who did the conversion on 1/26 mintues, so if you want to hold off on those I will fix them
18:05:54 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: I basically took the IRC log and ran it through pandoc
18:05:56 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-02-02-minutes
18:06:07 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: we'll postpone that one until last week
18:06:44 <bengo> +1
18:06:45 <wilkie> +1
18:06:46 <aaronpk> +1
18:06:47 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-02-02-minutes
18:06:48 <tsyesika> +1
18:06:52 <dromasca> +1
18:06:59 <cwebber2> +1
18:07:02 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: votes for minutes from last week?
18:07:05 <ben_thatmustbeme> +1
18:07:18 <eprodrom> +1
18:07:20 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: I wasn't here last week but I don't see any resolutions
18:07:21 <wilkie> eprodrom: you can use http://pandoc.amy.gy/ and update the url it generated to 01/26 to get something reasonable
18:07:32 <ben_thatmustbeme> RESOLVED: accept minutes from last week
18:07:42 <ben_thatmustbeme> TOPIC: Activity Streams 2.0
18:07:45 <tantek> https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/issues
18:07:52 <eprodrom> jasnell: ?
18:07:58 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... first item is update on issues
18:08:13 <tantek> Zakim, who is here?
18:08:13 <Zakim> Present: aaronpk, wilkie, tantek, bengo, ben_thatmustbeme, akuckartz, Arnaud, dromasca, AnnB, tsyesika, eprodrom, sandro
18:08:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, akuckartz, dromasca, AnnB, bengo, dmitriz, eprodrom, tantek, prtksxna, shevski, jasnell, shepazu, bblfish, rhiaro, kevinmarks2, tessierashpool_, ElijahLynn,
18:08:15 <Zakim> ... KevinMarks, Arnaud, wseltzer, rrika, elf-pavlik, wilkie, cwebber2, trackbot, nickstenn_, Loqi, jet, ben_thatmustbeme, dwhly, bret, bitbear, tsyesika, oshepherd, bigbluehat,
18:08:15 <Zakim> ... aaronpk, raucao, sandro
18:08:15 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: is james on the call?
18:08:16 <jasnell> my regrets.. buried to my eyeballs. I will have an updated WD by the end of the week
18:08:32 <jasnell> eprodrom: I will open a PR to add those test files to your suite
18:08:47 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: i don't have a lot of updates on issues, we have been holding off on any
18:08:57 <bengo> jasnell: https://github.com/w3c-social/activitystreams-test-documents/pull/1
18:09:16 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... I don't think there have been many new issues so I don't have any update there
18:09:23 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: is amy on the call?
18:09:30 <ben_thatmustbeme> sandro: in a minute
18:09:44 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: the rest of the CR issues seem to be covered by specific things in the agenda
18:09:54 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: I'll discuss them then
18:10:00 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: next item then
18:10:02 <Loqi> Dmitriz made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-03-16]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=97470&oldid=97407
18:10:03 <Loqi> Tantekelik made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-02-02-minutes]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=97472&oldid=97406
18:10:04 <Loqi> Eprodrom made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-01-26-minutes]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=97473&oldid=97468
18:10:34 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: 2 weeks ago we decided that for our test suite we would provide 2 test objects, a collection of AS documents that people can use to test their parsers
18:10:58 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... that process started last week (github link in room)
18:11:21 <eprodrom> https://github.com/w3c-social/activitystreams-test-documents
18:11:59 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... started with examples from core and vocab docs.  James has a collection of 50 other docs that he will be merging in
18:12:14 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... this will be our test corpus
18:12:31 <eprodrom> cwebber2: ?
18:12:39 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... i wanted to ask other people who are doing implmentations if they have tried that corpus yet?
18:12:47 <cwebber2> eprodrom: what's the question for me?
18:13:07 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... chris, it would be good to see if that works with the python implementation
18:13:11 <cwebber2> (sorry, my phone is busted, and I forgot to book a conference room)
18:13:12 <cwebber2> ah
18:13:24 <cwebber2> I'll try to investigate this weekend
18:13:40 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... the second part of the test suite is producing valid documents so we decided to make an online validator
18:13:43 <cwebber2> report back next meeting?
18:13:52 <eprodrom> https://github.com/w3c-social/activitystreams-validator
18:13:56 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... there is another github project for this
18:14:17 <eprodrom> https://as2.rocks/
18:14:30 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... that is a website that will accept AS documents a number of different ways... a live working version at as2.rocks/
18:15:03 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... would like to get it to a point of having an endpoint to be allow for scripted testing of it
18:15:14 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... both of these projects are moving along pretty nicely
18:15:23 <bengo> Cool https://as2.rocks/validate?url=https%3A%2F%2Frawgit.com%2Fw3c-social%2Factivitystreams-test-documents%2Fmaster%2Fvocabulary-ex152-jsonld.json
18:15:26 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... would be very helpful to start getting some contributions on these
18:15:28 <wilkie> yeah, I've looked at the code a little bit. haven't managed to get a local server up with 'npm start' yet. it errors about 'const' heh
18:15:37 <wilkie> I'll figure it out :)
18:16:05 <akuckartz> eprodrom++
18:16:07 <Loqi> eprodrom has 31 karma
18:16:24 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... Its Okay validation, its a pretty straight forward system, it could be a lot better on parse errors.  suggestions to correct, line numbers, etc
18:16:32 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... any questions about whats going on?
18:16:34 <eprodrom> wilkie: cool!
18:16:47 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: do all the test documents pass the validator?
18:17:03 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: I haven't tried that yet.  I have only done some thus far
18:17:15 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: that might be a good milestone to denote
18:17:25 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... do we have any error documents in the corpus?
18:17:47 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: I think we have a couple of "don't do it this way" documents, but not any error documents
18:18:02 <bengo> https://github.com/w3c-social/activitystreams-test-documents/issues/2
18:18:02 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: it would be useful for thst to test non-conforming input
18:18:14 <tantek> q?
18:18:34 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: anyone else with questions?
18:18:54 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... no one?
18:19:22 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: one more question, are you interested in additional submisisons to the corpus like from other implementations?
18:19:27 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: DEFINITELY
18:19:56 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: lets say that we are putting out an official call for anyone with AS2 producers to submit additional documents to the corpus
18:20:02 <Loqi> Dmitriz made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-06-07]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=97476&oldid=97385
18:20:07 <tantek> q?
18:20:08 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: pull requests easiest way to do this
18:20:18 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: lets move on
18:20:29 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... conformance section update
18:20:35 <tantek> https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/issues/281
18:21:10 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: i started working on a draft for this and i still need to work with james but hopefully we will get it out in the WD that will go out this week
18:21:18 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: do you want WG review?
18:21:49 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... before it publishes in WD, or after the fact?
18:22:09 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: probably better to do review of the whole doc after WD published
18:22:21 <ben_thatmustbeme> TOPIC: tracker actions and issues
18:22:41 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: there is nothing pending review
18:22:51 <eprodrom> wilkie: you need to be running the latest stable version of NodeJS
18:22:54 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-03-16
18:22:59 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... reminder to everyone that we have a F2F coming up at MIT
18:23:06 <tantek> zakim, who is here?
18:23:06 <Zakim> Present: aaronpk, wilkie, tantek, bengo, ben_thatmustbeme, akuckartz, Arnaud, dromasca, AnnB, tsyesika, eprodrom, sandro
18:23:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, akuckartz, dromasca, AnnB, bengo, dmitriz, eprodrom, tantek, prtksxna, shevski, jasnell, shepazu, bblfish, rhiaro, kevinmarks2, tessierashpool_, ElijahLynn,
18:23:08 <Zakim> ... KevinMarks, Arnaud, wseltzer, rrika, elf-pavlik, wilkie, cwebber2, trackbot, nickstenn_, Loqi, jet, ben_thatmustbeme, dwhly, bret, bitbear, tsyesika, oshepherd, bigbluehat,
18:23:08 <Zakim> ... aaronpk, raucao, sandro
18:23:20 <wilkie> eprodrom: dang. ok. that was my suspicion. I quickly gave up and was just looking through the code. will update soon.
18:23:25 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-03-16#Participation
18:23:39 <cwebber2> oh
18:23:41 <wilkie> eprodrom: thanks
18:23:45 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... we have 10 people RSVP'd so far, If you are in that Zakim list, but not in participation on the wiki, please add RSVP as going, or possible, or regrets
18:23:45 <AnnB> I'm attending .. but having probs logging into wiki, hence cannot edit
18:23:57 <ben_thatmustbeme> also the in an IWC the two days before
18:23:59 <tantek> https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT/Guest_List
18:24:06 <ben_thatmustbeme> and that link
18:24:07 <eprodrom> wilkie: you can also run it on Docker
18:24:22 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-06-07
18:24:37 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... there is a link up for the F2F after that
18:24:56 <aaronpk> (sorry can't talk right now)
18:25:03 <AnnB> yay for Portland! (note some bad dates .. likely paste error)
18:25:04 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... much fewer RSVPS, the sooner we have counts, the sooner the host can reserve meeting rooms and such
18:25:19 <aaronpk> oops sorry about messing up the dates
18:25:22 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... thats a good time of year to be in portland
18:25:24 <AnnB> no worries
18:25:28 <tantek> https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Guest_List
18:25:33 <wilkie> eprodrom: yeah, maybe I'll try that
18:25:35 <ben_thatmustbeme> there is an indiewebcamp summit before that F2F as well
18:25:42 <tantek> q>
18:25:43 <tantek> q?
18:25:57 <ben_thatmustbeme> .... any other business?
18:26:15 <cwebber2> I shoudl be able to make it
18:26:19 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: shevski are you on the call?
18:26:43 <ben_thatmustbeme> shevski: thoughtworks has some questions about things they weren't entirely clear about on as2
18:26:55 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... i will get them to write that up
18:27:12 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... and maybe we can have them on next week
18:27:13 <Loqi> I added a countdown for 2/15 10:27am (#5796)
18:27:15 <tantek> https://github.com/jasnell/w3c-socialwg-activitystreams/issues
18:27:30 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: what would be really helpful for specific issues would be to use github tracker
18:27:59 <ben_thatmustbeme> shevski: they also have a lot of time so they might be able to contribute as well
18:28:10 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: eprodrom did you want to address that
18:28:21 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: yeah, any help with the test suite would be great
18:28:28 <bengo> Have them say hi on the list and talk about their use case?
18:28:49 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: i want to specifically emphasize that the sooner they bring up those issues on github, the better
18:28:56 <tantek> q?
18:29:17 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... i think we have reached the end of the agenda
18:29:21 <eprodrom> Great!
18:29:29 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... unless anyone has any other issues they want to bring up.....
18:29:52 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... lets call it there then
18:29:53 <cwebber2> there's nothing to raise in activitypub land; we worked on issues a bit this week but nothing to report that's interesting enough :)
18:29:59 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... talk to you next week
18:30:00 <AnnB> thanks Tantek
18:30:02 <Loqi> Tsyesika made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-03-16]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=97477&oldid=97470
18:30:03 <Loqi> Eprodrom made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-06-07]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=97478&oldid=97476
18:30:04 <Loqi> Tantekelik made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-06-07]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=97479&oldid=97478
18:30:05 <Loqi> Cwebber2 made 1 edit to [[Socialwg/2016-06-07]] https://www.w3.org/wiki/index.php?diff=97480&oldid=97479
18:30:07 <wilkie> thanks all
18:30:07 <cwebber2> lata!
18:30:07 <AnnB> yay Ben
18:30:11 <wilkie> ben_thatmustbeme++
18:30:13 <Loqi> ben_thatmustbeme has 133 karma
18:30:13 <tantek> ben_thatmustbeme++ for minuting!
18:30:15 <Loqi> ben_thatmustbeme has 134 karma
18:30:16 <cwebber2> ben_thatmustbeme++
18:30:19 <Loqi> ben_thatmustbeme has 135 karma
18:30:31 <akuckartz> ben_thatmustbeme++
18:30:34 <Loqi> ben_thatmustbeme has 136 karma
18:30:45 <ben_thatmustbeme> trackbot: end meeting
18:30:45 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
18:30:45 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been aaronpk, wilkie, tantek, bengo, ben_thatmustbeme, akuckartz, Arnaud, dromasca, AnnB, tsyesika, eprodrom, sandro
18:30:53 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
18:30:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/09-social-minutes.html trackbot
18:30:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
18:30:54 <RRSAgent> I see no action items