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16:41:05 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
16:41:05 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
16:41:06 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
16:41:06 <trackbot> Date: 03 February 2016
16:41:20 <janina> zakim, agenda?
16:41:20 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
16:41:26 <janina> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
16:41:26 <janina> agenda+ Decision Policy CfC -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jan/0000.html
16:41:29 <janina> agenda+ Web Payments Update -- Shane
16:41:31 <janina> agenda+ Actions Review (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8
16:41:34 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
16:41:36 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
16:41:39 <janina> agenda+ next and future meetings http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_273
16:41:42 <janina> agenda+ be done
16:41:53 <janina>  zakim, next item
16:41:53 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
16:46:58 <MichielBijl> present+ MichielBijl
16:47:08 <MichielBijl> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:47:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/03-apa-minutes.html MichielBijl
16:47:51 <MichielBijl> chair+ janina
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17:01:02 <JF> zakim, who's here?
17:01:02 <Zakim> Present: MichielBijl
17:01:04 <Zakim> On IRC I see tzviya, JF, Zakim, RRSAgent, chaals, ShaneM, MichaelC, trackbot, MichielBijl, slightlyoff, janina, joanie
17:01:10 <janina> regrets: Cynthia, Gottfried
17:01:32 <janina> present+ Janina
17:01:47 <JF> MichielBijl did you use a different password to get into the webex call?
17:02:01 <MichielBijl> So I'm not the only one :)
17:02:22 <JF> no, although it shows you as present there plus on IRC
17:02:23 <JF> weird
17:02:29 <janina> present+ Leonie
17:02:41 <tzviya> present+ Tzviya
17:02:52 <JF> Present+ JF
17:02:56 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
17:02:57 <MichielBijl> Weird. I'm definitely not on the call
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17:04:03 <fesch> present+ fesch
17:05:21 <ShaneM> present+ ShaneM
17:05:43 <fesch> scribe: fesch
17:06:38 <MichaelC> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Feb/0002.html
17:06:40 <JF> agenda?
17:06:51 <fesch> js:  interesting topic on Web Payments
17:07:04 <fesch> zakim, next item
17:07:04 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Decision Policy CfC -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jan/0000.html" taken up [from janina]
17:07:17 <fesch> zakim, item 1
17:07:17 <Zakim> I don't understand 'item 1', fesch
17:07:46 <fesch> zakim, up
17:07:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'up', fesch
17:07:50 <ShaneM> zakim, take up item 1
17:07:50 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
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17:08:04 <richardschwerdtfeger> Present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
17:08:22 <JF> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF
17:08:44 <fesch> jf: web on TV interest group has spun up a new task force, interesting work going on there
17:08:57 <tzviya> q+ to share EPUB 3.1 Ed Draft
17:09:01 <fesch> jf: I am monitoring the group
17:09:48 <fesch> jf: we have worked with some of the folks before :)
17:10:02 <janina> ack tz
17:10:02 <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to share EPUB 3.1 Ed Draft
17:10:09 <tzviya> http://idpf.org/news/first-editors-draft-of-epub-31-available-for-review
17:10:56 <fesch> tz: first draft changes a lot, quite an accessibility focus including metadata, looking to add accessibility modulte
17:11:11 <fesch> s/dult/dul/
17:11:44 <fesch> tz: if you have feedback please send it to Tziiya or Marcus
17:11:48 <fesch> zakim, next item
17:11:48 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Decision Policy CfC -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jan/0000.html" taken up [from janina]
17:12:19 <fesch> js: CFC running through tomorrow, same as ARIA working group
17:12:29 <fesch> js: questions?
17:12:36 <fesch> zakim, next item
17:12:36 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, fesch
17:12:42 <ShaneM> zakim, close item 2
17:12:42 <Zakim> agendum 2, Decision Policy CfC -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2016Jan/0000.html, closed
17:12:44 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:12:44 <Zakim> 3. Web Payments Update -- Shane [from janina]
17:12:51 <fesch> zakim, next item
17:12:51 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Web Payments Update -- Shane" taken up [from janina]
17:12:54 <ShaneM> zakim, take up item 3
17:12:54 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Web Payments Update -- Shane" taken up [from janina]
17:14:38 <fesch> sm: web payments activity is complicated - stated out of an community group - split into interest group (architecture of web payments in W3C)
17:15:11 <fesch> sm: talking about way people exchange money - digitally
17:16:17 <fesch> sm: also a web payments working group - tight charter - working on web payments API - javascript - specifically around requesting money  - ongoing - not to do with user interface
17:17:21 <fesch> sm: good news/bad news - browsers responsible for UI - but APA has an interest in this
17:17:43 <fesch> sm: also includes a messaging API for requesting money
17:18:21 <fesch> sm: there is a way to do the messaging via HTTP....
17:18:52 <fesch> sm: also a credentials interest group -
17:19:23 <fesch> sm: Shane is involved in all activities
17:20:11 <fesch> sm: groups are having a face-to-face late Feb (21-23) , Katie will be there too
17:20:53 <fesch> s/21 -23/22 / 24/
17:21:08 <fesch> sm: Face to face in San Francisco
17:21:59 <fesch> sm: lets talk about the kinds of things that are important to accessiblity
17:23:10 <fesch> sm: I can't image browsers are going to do anything outside their infrastructure to support payments
17:24:29 <fesch> sm: when you buy stuff online, in the background (in the future), the browser will look in my digital wallet to see how you can pay
17:25:10 <fesch> sm:  so you could see a popup - vendor X has requested a payment and you have these three choices --- and you pick one - magic occurs ...
17:26:04 <fesch> katie: the receipt is part of the roadmap
17:27:17 <fesch> sm: while requirements will come out in the first round of work, we need to tell the browsers what we are concerned about - we have existing requirements
17:27:46 <janina> q?
17:28:08 <fesch> sm: there is a lot of negotiation between payer and vendor  -  they group is not trying to standardize that at this point
17:28:11 <janina> q+ janina to discuss how to start paur and to start defining a11y reqs
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17:29:11 <Ryladog> Present+ Katie Haritos-Shea
17:30:15 <fesch> js: thinking what we have structurally in the MAUR - it breaks it down by disability and suggests accommodation for each that works well... provides guidance
17:31:17 <fesch> js: thoughts on PAUR - focus on each disability, requirements may shift depending on the case and environment - at home vs at auto shop...
17:32:22 <janina> q?
17:32:28 <janina> ack ja
17:32:28 <Zakim> janina, you wanted to discuss how to start paur and to start defining a11y reqs
17:32:41 <fesch> js: so approach like MAUR did... include environmental situation, should we schedule a meeting to write the PAUR
17:33:28 <fesch> sm: we should hold off until after Feb meeting  - would you like me to take the MAUR and boil it down for a PAUR
17:33:35 <fesch> sm: where?
17:34:00 <fesch> mc: put it in the PF directory and then move it or make a new directory
17:34:42 <fesch> mc: maybe better to make a new repository...  Janina opinion?
17:35:17 <fesch> sm: prefer a new repository
17:35:49 <fesch> mc: we can move with history...  creating a new repository... apa
17:36:27 <fesch> lw: I would be like to work on it
17:36:58 <fesch> zakim, next item
17:36:58 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Actions Review (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/products/8" taken up [from janina]
17:37:29 <MichaelC> action-2007 due 1 week
17:37:29 <trackbot> Set action-2007 Review shacl use cases and requirements https://www.w3.org/tr/shacl-ucr/ due date to 2016-02-10.
17:38:17 <MichaelC> action-2006 due 1 week
17:38:17 <trackbot> Set action-2006 Draft comment to ensure authoring guidance is provide on eme https://www.w3.org/tr/encrypted-media/ due date to 2016-02-10.
17:39:41 <fesch> fe: still doing, biggest interest for this group is a high contrast media query
17:40:02 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
17:40:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/03-apa-minutes.html MichaelC
17:40:37 <fesch> tz: this is a huge area in dpub, we have use case upon use case....
17:41:42 <fesch> tz: in digital publishing it is expected to know...
17:43:10 <fesch> fesch" is that the same as high contrast mode
17:43:48 <fesch> tz: we have use cases
17:44:46 <MichaelC> action-2005 due 1 week
17:44:46 <trackbot> Set action-2005 Review media queries level 4 https://www.w3.org/tr/mediaqueries-4/ due date to 2016-02-10.
17:45:33 <MichaelC> action-2001 due 1 week
17:45:34 <trackbot> Set action-2001 Review gamepad https://www.w3.org/tr/gamepad/ due date to 2016-02-10.
17:45:46 <MichaelC> action-1751 due 1 week
17:45:46 <trackbot> Set action-1751 Review push api http://www.w3.org/tr/push-api/ due date to 2016-02-10.
17:46:20 <MichaelC> action-1762 due 1 week
17:46:20 <trackbot> Set action-1762 Review http://www.w3.org/tr/csp-cookies/ content security policy: cookie controls to see if a11y issues or not due date to 2016-02-10.
17:46:36 <fesch> zakim, nest item
17:46:36 <Zakim> I don't understand 'nest item', fesch
17:46:43 <fesch> zakim, next item
17:46:43 <Zakim> agendum 5. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina]
17:47:39 <janina> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-transitions/#accessibility
17:47:40 <fesch> js: had a request from a CSS spec ... thinking about accessibility
17:48:08 <fesch> js: thought it was a great start, if folks want to look at it, we can discuss next week
17:48:34 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1/ TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.0 (IMSC1)
17:50:24 <MichaelC> action: foliot to review TTML Profiles for Internet Media Subtitles and Captions 1.0 (IMSC1) https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1/
17:50:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2008 - Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.0 (imsc1) https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1/ [on John Foliot - due 2016-02-10].
17:50:26 <MichaelC> action-2008?
17:50:27 <trackbot> action-2008 -- John Foliot to Review ttml profiles for internet media subtitles and captions 1.0 (imsc1) https://www.w3.org/tr/ttml-imsc1/ -- due 2016-02-10 -- OPEN
17:50:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2008
17:51:02 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/beacon/ Beacon
17:52:11 <fesch> sm: is about bluetooth...
17:53:18 <fesch> sm: only the API not the user ends
17:53:36 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/hr-time-2/ High Resolution Time Level 2
17:53:58 <fesch> js: not worried about
17:54:22 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/mediacapture-depth/ Media Capture Depth Stream Extensions
17:56:15 <MichaelC> action: fesch to review Media Capture Depth Stream Extensions https://www.w3.org/TR/mediacapture-depth/
17:56:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2009 - Review media capture depth stream extensions https://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-depth/ [on Fred Esch - due 2016-02-10].
17:56:18 <MichaelC> action-2009?
17:56:18 <trackbot> action-2009 -- Fred Esch to Review media capture depth stream extensions https://www.w3.org/tr/mediacapture-depth/ -- due 2016-02-10 -- OPEN
17:56:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/2009
17:57:13 <fesch> lw: can I ask pointer lock questions?
17:57:22 <fesch> Topic: pointer lock
17:57:44 <ShaneM> https://www.w3.org/TR/pointerlock/
17:57:55 <janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2016Feb/0017.html
17:57:59 <fesch> lw: pointer lock makes it possible to capture mouse movement, control orientation...
17:59:06 <fesch> lw: recommends way to unlock interaction, sounds similar to way the screen magnifier controls the viewport  - will it cause a problem?
17:59:27 <fesch> lw: when you are playing a game, won't be problem -
18:00:05 <fesch> js: can we ask Aaron?
18:00:27 <fesch> jf: I can ask Aaron...
18:01:04 <fesch> rrs agent make minutes
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18:02:30 <fesch> rrsagent, draft minutes
18:02:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/03-apa-minutes.html fesch
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18:06:04 <MichielBijl> chair: janina
18:06:14 <MichielBijl> rrsagent, draft minutes
18:06:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/03-apa-minutes.html MichielBijl
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