IRC log of coga on 2016-02-01
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/02/01-coga-irc
- 16:18:35 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda: this
- 16:18:36 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ review actions, and timelines
- 16:18:38 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ Gap Analysis Introduction
- 16:18:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ what do we need to freeze version
- 16:18:41 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ Gap Analysis Kurt's comments
- 16:18:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ Gap Analysis Rich's comments on WCAG extension
- 16:18:44 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ Other issue papers?
- 16:18:45 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ Next ftf ideas (TPAC and Katie suggestion)
- 16:18:47 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ be done
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- 17:00:13 [Kurt]
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- 17:00:38 [Mike_Pluke]
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- 17:03:01 [Lisa_Seeman]
- scribe: Mike_Pluke
- 17:04:12 [Lisa_Seeman]
- item 1
- 17:04:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, next item
- 17:04:39 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "review actions, and timelines" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
- 17:05:00 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#What_are_we_working_on_now.3F
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- 17:05:20 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#Current_schedules
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- 17:06:25 [Mike_Pluke]
- Late on 28th January document freeze date.
- 17:06:34 [Lisa_Seeman]
- intro
- 17:06:36 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis_Summary
- 17:06:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
- 17:07:22 [Mike_Pluke]
- Need to freeze Gap Analysis. Tables of user needs will not be complete.
- 17:07:42 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
- 17:08:34 [Mike_Pluke]
- Mature pieces of documents have comments from EA and Renaldo.
- 17:09:20 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2016Jan/0038.html
- 17:09:30 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2016Jan/0042.html
- 17:09:37 [Mike_Pluke]
- Introduction from Lisa - comments from Renaldo and EA
- 17:09:46 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, next item
- 17:09:46 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Gap Analysis Introduction" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
- 17:10:23 [ddahl]
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- 17:11:43 [Mike_Pluke]
- Lisa accepts EA's "suggested tool" change.
- 17:20:10 [Mike_Pluke]
- Some concern and confusion over the use of the terms preferences and personalization in the intro
- 17:23:22 [EA]
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- 17:24:13 [Lisa_Seeman]
- can we ignor coment The research you are referring to here is most likely exploratory. As such it is not intended to be conclusive, generalizable and prescriptive. It illuminates the situation and highlights areas that require further attention.
- 17:24:15 [Lisa_Seeman]
- The issue here could be a lack of empirical work concerned with Web accessibility for persons with cognitive disabilities.
- 17:24:44 [Lisa_Seeman]
- i think the issue is use clear writing is not well defined in a testable way
- 17:24:47 [janina]
- present+ janina
- 17:24:56 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Q+
- 17:25:16 [ddahl]
- present+ Debbie_Dahl
- 17:27:00 [MichaelC]
- present+ MichaelC
- 17:30:22 [EA]
- https://blogs.office.com/2016/01/19/learning-tools-for-onenote-improves-learning-for-all/ proven according to Microsoft!!
- 17:31:54 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rest of his coments we ask to be on the call to discuss if they are importend
- 17:33:21 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action to give one more review of the intro and send the list for a 48 concensis
- 17:33:21 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'to'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
- 17:34:31 [Lisa_Seeman]
- EA's coments are excepted bu the one on porefrences might weight for next version
- 17:34:51 [Lisa_Seeman]
- prefrences and persation should be clearly defined
- 17:35:08 [Mike_Pluke]
- EA comments on preferences will have to be addressed in a later version
- 17:36:42 [Mike_Pluke]
- Documents going out for review - Summary of Issue Papers and Techniques into Gap Analysis
- 17:36:57 [Lisa_Seeman]
- for coneses to add to the gap analisis
- 17:37:00 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
- 17:37:01 [Mike_Pluke]
- The above for consensus
- 17:38:59 [Mike_Pluke]
- Consensus was to do summary and sample of user needs
- 17:40:00 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 17:40:45 [Mike_Pluke]
- Rich would like to make the gap analysis like a roadmap. Current version getting better.
- 17:41:44 [Mike_Pluke]
- Rich comments: Editorial stuff needed on user needs - too hard to follow. Should be a proper TF Note.
- 17:43:46 [Mike_Pluke]
- Lisa: Don't have all the user needs correctly identified. Finalizing it would probably take 3 months.
- 17:44:22 [MichaelC]
- q+
- 17:44:29 [Lisa_Seeman]
- ack lisa
- 17:45:05 [MichaelC]
- q+ to way things don´t need to be complete (shouldn´t be at FPWD) but need to have enough to believe it will be completed, and draw comments
- 17:46:16 [Mike_Pluke]
- Rich: OK to have gaps. Need to get this in front of industry. If they see it as "Cognitive Accessibility Roadmap" and have the Gap Analysis in it.
- 17:47:54 [Mike_Pluke]
- Michael: Replace empty tables with what you have as, say, bullet points.
- 17:53:06 [Mike_Pluke]
- Michael: Include editorial notes explaining the bits that are to be done later.
- 18:01:04 [Mike_Pluke]
- Lisa will put together an integrated document with all the bits included.
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- 18:02:26 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: lisa to put together an integrated document with all the bits included of gap analisis
- 18:02:26 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-150 - Put together an integrated document with all the bits included of gap analisis [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-02-08].
- 18:04:05 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, make logs public
- 18:04:18 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, create minutes
- 18:04:18 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/01-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
- 18:05:31 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, please part
- 18:05:31 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been janina, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Debbie_Dahl, MichaelC
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- 18:05:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, please part
- 18:05:39 [RRSAgent]
- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/02/01-coga-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: lisa to put together an integrated document with all the bits included of gap analisis [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/02/01-coga-irc#T18-02-26