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15:03:08 <ShaneM> zakim, this is Interledger Protocol Community Group
15:03:08 <Zakim> got it, ShaneM
15:03:15 <ShaneM> present+ ShaneM
15:03:22 <ShaneM> zakim, who is here?
15:03:22 <Zakim> Present: ShaneM
15:03:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, padler, evanschwartz, ShaneM, AdrianHB, xavier, zmanian
15:03:26 <ShaneM> present+ AdrianHB
15:04:23 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
15:04:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/01/13-interledger-minutes.html ShaneM
15:04:56 <ShaneM> Scribe: AdrianHB
15:05:04 <ShaneM> Chair: AdrianHB
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15:05:25 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes public
15:05:25 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', ShaneM.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:05:35 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make log public
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15:08:59 <AdrianHB> evanschwartz: co-auth of the paper
15:09:09 <AdrianHB> ... working on some further use cases right now
15:09:33 <AdrianHB> ... keen to discuss with the group what needs to happen next and explore
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15:10:25 <AdrianHB> shanem: digital bizaar - interested in ILP and how it fits into the bigger arch of exchange
15:10:50 <AdrianHB> Heather: indep researcher - worked ona scenario that predicted ILP a few years ago
15:11:07 <AdrianHB> ... done a lot of research on money, payments, txns
15:11:34 <AdrianHB> ... interested in making using money a better experience including the emotinal aspects of money
15:12:17 <AdrianHB> ari: IE at W3C, former banker
15:12:19 <AdrianHB> ...
15:12:48 <AdrianHB> ... ILP promises a very exciting opp for blockchain and fintech
15:13:04 <ShaneM> s/digital bizaar/Digital Bazaar/
15:13:08 <AdrianHB> ... feel the more we weave this tech together the better (id, payments etc)
15:13:11 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
15:13:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/01/13-interledger-minutes.html ShaneM
15:14:20 <AdrianHB> tiffany: from BTC community. Follow Ripple closely. Following ILP because it looks like it will deliver on some of the ealry visons of Ripple
15:14:51 <ShaneM> Topic: Introductions
15:15:17 <AdrianHB> padler: FedlIne, member of the W3C Payments groups, Federal Reserve of Chicago. Actively interested in ILP as it relates to the American payments ecosystem
15:15:39 <AdrianHB> heather: Padler, can you talk openly about your work at the Fed?
15:16:22 <AdrianHB> padler: yes and no. I have to walk a fine line. Need to ensure we are up to speed but can't say too much.
15:17:17 <Heather> FYI that was Tiffany asking padler questions. :-)
15:17:18 <AdrianHB> pindar: Hong kong based. Liked the ILP whitepaper. Mostly observer. Strong fintech interest in HK. Experience in BTC stack.
15:18:17 <AdrianHB> Audrus: based in London. Followed Ripple for 2 years. Interested in m2m payments. Acting as an entrepreneur.
15:19:54 <Heather> FYI, sound is breaking up.
15:21:19 <AdrianHB> Rangar/Zaky: Blockchain based trade finance. Interested in connecting payments based blockchains with trade finance ledger.
15:21:25 <zmanian> Zaki Manian
15:21:32 <zmanian> Skuchain
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15:22:27 <AdrianHB> rangar: we expect there to be many ledgers and the need to connect these ledgers using something like ILP
15:24:31 <AdrianHB> bobway: also from Ripple. Also done some work on trade finance
15:25:40 <AdrianHB> michael from @@@. working on real-estate based use cases. interested in Tim S paper on crypto-currency
15:26:26 <AdrianHB> adam from PWC: focused on KYC etc and interested in how the future of payment protocols shape regs
15:26:55 <AdrianHB> thomas from MIT: here to learn
15:27:34 <AdrianHB> taylor fed reserve of Kansas. prod manager for the settlement service at the fed. interest is related to how ILP would be used for settlement
15:28:24 <AdrianHB> karlos: runs xrpchat forum; here to listen
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15:28:32 <Michael_Smolenski> Hi I'm Michael Smolenski, as mentioned our company is "Midasium". Providing smart contract services for the Real Estate industry.
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15:32:23 <AdrianHB> adrianhb: purpose of calls will change over time. can decide what we want to.
15:32:24 <AdrianHB> https://github.com/interledger/five-bells-demo/wiki
15:33:05 <Ranga_> Support using slack.
15:33:32 <Adam_Locklin> slack +1
15:33:53 <ShaneM> Some concern about openness of slack
15:33:55 <AdrianHB> +1 slack
15:34:06 <Heather> not a fan of slack
15:34:38 <Ranga_> @ShaneM slack can connect to irc
15:34:40 <AdrianHB> ari: Midasium should look at work of Bruce Cahan at Stanford
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15:35:27 <Heather> I know Bruce. Good suggestion
15:35:49 <ShaneM> +1 for specs and issue management on github.  more easily merges with other W3C processes
15:36:15 <bway> Note: AdrianHB, there are some comments in the Bluejeans chat that should be archived as well.
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15:38:34 <padler> q+ to ask about goals of getting to a WG and a draft standard..
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15:40:25 <pindarhk> Fine ... thanks for the proto-roadmap
15:41:28 <ShaneM> Note that "consensus" in a large group often means putting out an email "call for consensus" where no comment means "I agree"
15:43:23 <pindarhk> Standard Desk might be helpful ;)
15:44:01 <AdrianHB> tiffany: is advocacy a goal?
15:44:18 <AdrianHB> adrianHB: yes, can help if required
15:44:53 <Heather> I'll do some scribing.
15:45:11 <Heather> Adrian - yes the goal is to get to multiple regchecked specs.
15:45:45 <tiffany_> yes
15:45:56 <Heather> Adrian: it's a goal, but we want to make sure we get the right specifications. also up for discussion who the right stakeholders are. going to do use cases first.
15:47:03 <ShaneM> I think the "roadmap" can define the timeline.
15:47:14 <Heather> ??: Is the goal to get the community to working group status by TPaC? Adrian: depends on the group. Would be good by mid year.
15:47:39 <Heather> Adrian: the spec depends on who is kicking the tire in the wild (who is implementing what and how)
15:47:41 <AdrianHB> s/??/padler/
15:47:52 <pindarhk> Is that f2f meeting now confirmed at Google San Francisco?
15:48:00 <pindarhk> If so, what was the date again?
15:48:10 <Heather> Q: will we be able to connect remotely? Adrian: that would be ideal. Will find out facilities.
15:48:27 <pindarhk> Great... remote participation would be great +1
15:48:29 <ShaneM> The dates for the f2f are Feb 22-24 for the Web payments IG and WG
15:48:35 <pindarhk> Thanks
15:48:50 <Heather> Dare is Feb 22-24
15:48:55 <ShaneM> So this group might need to meet right after that (25th) since there is quite a bit of overlap.
15:49:05 <Heather> Adrian: Are there specific topics to see on the agenda for that meeting?
15:49:10 <pindarhk> Novel use cases
15:49:22 <ShaneM> I would like to see Roadmap development and Requirements development as high priroity agenda items.
15:49:28 <AdrianHB> Agenda suggestion: Scope definition
15:49:35 <Heather> : Related to scope of group & what to achieve. What is in/out of scope.
15:49:37 <pindarhk> Agreed
15:50:32 <Heather> Adrian: lay groudwork & share ideas on the mailing list prior to f2f
15:50:54 <Heather> Adrian: expect 1/2 day, 1 day max session.
15:50:55 <pindarhk> I'll be UTC +8 if that could be accommodated
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15:51:15 <Heather> Adrian: meet in evening? Thursday>
15:51:25 <Heather> Either time works for me.
15:51:30 <pindarhk> :)
15:51:43 <ShaneM> I am happy to meet in the evening.  Thursday morning is okay too.  I am in town all week.
15:52:07 <Heather> 24 hour standards marathon! No thank you
15:52:08 <AdrianHB> PROPOSAL: F2f meeting on 25 Feb in AM
15:52:13 <Heather> +1
15:52:14 <TaylorD> works for me
15:52:18 <pindarhk> +1
15:52:29 <zmanian> +1
15:52:31 <Michael_Smolenski> +1
15:52:33 <padler> +1
15:52:43 <tiffany_> +1
15:53:28 <ShaneM> +
15:53:31 <ShaneM> +1
15:54:03 <pindarhk> Thanks everyone! Great call, looking forward to work with you all. See you online! :)
15:54:14 <Heather> Nice to meet everyone!
15:54:20 <padler> Thanks All!  Looking forward to the work!
15:54:36 <evanschwartz> +1 to follow up call
15:54:37 <zmanian> yes to follow up call
15:54:40 <padler> +1
15:54:49 <pindarhk> +1 as far as agendas
15:54:54 <ShaneM> +1 but with an agenda and possibly a proposal (roadmap?  skeletal requirements document)
15:55:02 <Heather> Follow up call: Adrian will coordinate in a couple weeks.
15:55:08 <pindarhk> Nite!
15:55:34 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make minutes
15:55:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/01/13-interledger-minutes.html ShaneM
15:55:43 <ShaneM> zakim, end meeting
15:55:43 <Zakim> I don't understand 'end meeting', ShaneM
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