IRC log of pf on 2015-12-02

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Zakim, this will be WAI_PF

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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

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Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 02 December 2015

16:53:23 [janina]

agenda?

16:53:28 [janina]

agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes

16:53:28 [janina]

agenda+ APA Housekeeping Reminders http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html

16:53:28 [janina]

agenda+ Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open

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agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

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agenda+ Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/

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agenda+ RQTF Organization -- Markku Hakkinen

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agenda+ Other Business

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agenda+ next and future meetings http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_273

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agenda+ be done

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present+ Janina

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chair: Janina

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zakim, next item

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agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]

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present+ Joanmarie_Diggs

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present+ LJWatson

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present+ fesch

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present+ JF

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scribe: fesch

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js: proposing we take last 2 weeks of December off - no call on 23 and 30th

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js: anyone have a problem with that?

17:08:08 [ShaneM]

Present+ ShaneM

17:08:48 [fesch]

js: OK we won't meet Dec 23 or 30

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js: any additions to agenda or news items?

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gz: we have two project proposals - protocol between client and server and preferences of the user

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gz: national bodies should have discussed this, can send an outline of a draft

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js: any problem putting it on list?

17:10:58 [richardschwerdtfeger]

present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger

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gz: just an outline

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cs: on edge platform team!

17:12:09 [fesch]

cs: have time to standards work

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s/to/to do/

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zakim, next item

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agendum 2. "APA Housekeeping Reminders http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html" taken up [from janina]

17:13:03 [jamesn]

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/12/02-pf-minutes.html jamesn

17:14:29 [fesch]

js: make sure you join APA WG, charter expires tomorrow, MC will give updates tomorrow on publications

17:15:31 [fesch]

js: any questions on APA?

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zakim, next item

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agendum 3. "Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open" taken up [from janina]

17:15:54 [fesch]

action-1742

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action-1742 -- Shane McCarron to Review media source extensions http://www.w3.org/tr/media-source/ for maur relationship -- due 2015-11-25 -- OPEN

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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1742

17:16:15 [MichaelC]

close action-1742

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Closed action-1742.

17:16:50 [fesch]

action-1722

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action-1722 -- Janina Sajka to Look at emma 2.0 http://www.w3.org/tr/2015/wd-emma20-20150908/ -- due 2015-09-23 -- OPEN

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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1722

17:17:15 [fesch]

mc: MAUR approved for publication tomorrow

17:17:31 [MichaelC]

action-1722 due 2 weeks

17:17:31 [trackbot]

Set action-1722 Look at emma 2.0 http://www.w3.org/tr/2015/wd-emma20-20150908/ due date to 2015-12-16.

17:17:40 [MichaelC]

action-1685 due 2 weeks

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Set action-1685 Manage review of http://www.w3.org/tr/2015/wd-tracking-compliance-20150714/ tracking compliance and scope (note explicit review request needs response) due date to 2015-12-16.

17:17:48 [MichaelC]

action-1597 due 2 weeks

17:17:48 [trackbot]

Set action-1597 Review web midi api http://www.w3.org/tr/webmidi/ due date to 2015-12-16.

17:17:57 [MichaelC]

action-1566 due 2 weeks

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Set action-1566 Follow up with web notifications folk on cyn's response due date to 2015-12-16.

17:18:10 [fesch]

action-1669

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action-1669 -- Katie Haritos-Shea to Look at data on the web best practices http://www.w3.org/tr/dwbp/ -- due 2015-10-21 -- OPEN

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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1669

17:18:25 [fesch]

action-1648

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action-1648 -- James Nurthen to Review entry point regulation http://www.w3.org/tr/epr/ -- due 2015-09-23 -- OPEN

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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1648

17:18:42 [MichaelC]

action-1648 due 2 weeks

17:18:42 [trackbot]

Set action-1648 Review entry point regulation http://www.w3.org/tr/epr/ due date to 2015-12-16.

17:18:49 [MichaelC]

action-1629 due 2 weeks

17:18:50 [trackbot]

Set action-1629 Review manifest for a web application http://www.w3.org/tr/appmanifest/ due date to 2015-12-16.

17:19:14 [fesch]

action-1549

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action-1549 -- Cynthia Shelly to Review http://www.w3.org/tr/css-align-3/ and http://www.w3.org/tr/css-inline-3/ due 20150222 -- due 2015-02-22 -- OPEN

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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1549

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action-1549

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action-1549 -- Cynthia Shelly to Review http://www.w3.org/tr/css-align-3/ and http://www.w3.org/tr/css-inline-3/ due 20150222 -- due 2015-02-22 -- OPEN

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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1549

17:21:43 [fesch]

zakim, next item

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agendum 4. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina]

17:22:35 [fesch]

mc: no CR... nothing to look at

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zakim, next item

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agendum 4 was just opened, fesch

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zakim, close item

17:22:51 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'close item', fesch

17:23:00 [fesch]

zakim, close this item

17:23:00 [Zakim]

agendum 4 closed

17:23:01 [Zakim]

I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

17:23:01 [Zakim]

5. Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/ [from janina]

17:23:06 [fesch]

zakim, next item

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agendum 5. "Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/" taken up [from janina]

17:24:05 [fesch]

js: we agreed to reduce the footprint on this call. Can drop off agenda until January

17:24:38 [fesch]

mc: we were going to do community groups once a month and every 6 months, review list on tracking page

17:25:06 [fesch]

jn: and for the once a month someone was going to prep ahead of time - next time JF

17:25:29 [fesch]

JF: not prepared this time

17:25:54 [fesch]

mc: will send JF an email on where to pick up

17:26:20 [janina]

topic: PF Publications

17:26:21 [fesch]

js: in January will take on semi annual task of reviewing all groups

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js: MAUR has been approved for publication tomorrow

17:27:10 [fesch]

js: blog draft for MAUR

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JF: have cycles

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js: can JF look at draft?

17:28:08 [fesch]

mc: need to check the emailed draft...

17:29:45 [fesch]

mc: poster need account on blog platform... or MC can post with a by line

17:30:39 [fesch]

mc: All publications are ready to go, two public working drafts awaiting approval,

17:31:02 [fesch]

mc: if I don't get approval soon, web master may not post it...

17:32:12 [fesch]

lw: will get official approval today...

17:32:40 [fesch]

zakim, next item

17:32:40 [Zakim]

agendum 6. "RQTF Organization -- Markku Hakkinen" taken up [from janina]

17:32:51 [fesch]

zakim, close item

17:32:51 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'close item', fesch

17:32:59 [fesch]

zakim, close this item

17:32:59 [Zakim]

agendum 6 closed

17:33:00 [Zakim]

I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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7. Other Business [from janina]

17:33:04 [fesch]

zakim, next item

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agendum 7. "Other Business" taken up [from janina]

17:33:21 [MichaelC]

q+

17:33:45 [ShaneM]

q+ to ask about invited expert joining of other groups

17:35:03 [fesch]

js: Leone mentioned a couple of documents for web platform?

17:35:37 [fesch]

lw: quick heads up about the specs, haven't looked at them yet

17:36:30 [LJWatson]

Pointer Lock https://w3c.github.io/pointerlock/

17:37:19 [MichaelC]

q+ to ask about WAI IG announcement messages

17:38:19 [LJWatson]

Screen Orientation https://w3c.github.io/screen-orientation/

17:38:46 [MichaelC]

q- later

17:38:51 [fesch]

lw: it is a working draft

17:39:49 [fesch]

shane: invited experts process seems stuck

17:40:07 [fesch]

js: stuck above MC paygrade...

17:41:11 [fesch]

jn: it goes into when you can lock it.... and for security...

17:41:17 [fesch]

lw: we should review

17:42:29 [MichaelC]

ack s

17:42:29 [Zakim]

ShaneM, you wanted to ask about invited expert joining of other groups

17:42:43 [fesch]

lw: UI events

17:42:55 [fesch]

rs: we have an interest in UI events

17:43:48 [LJWatson]

https://w3c.github.io/uievents/

17:44:06 [fesch]

rs: who looked at it? on webapps side?

17:45:35 [fesch]

rs: need to look at it in the context of WAPA...

17:45:59 [ShaneM]

I would like to review this too

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rs: Rich, Cynthia will review

17:46:26 [LJWatson]

ACTION: Léonie to review Screen Orientation API

17:46:26 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-1748 - Review screen orientation api [on Léonie Watson - due 2015-12-09].

17:47:56 [fesch]

js: first week of January might be a good time to clean up PF/APA/ARIA task split

17:48:31 [janina]

action: rich to review UI Events

17:48:31 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-1749 - Review ui events [on Richard Schwerdtfeger - due 2015-12-09].

17:48:38 [janina]

action: Cyns to review UI Events

17:48:38 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-1750 - Review ui events [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2015-12-09].

17:49:35 [MichaelC]

action-1749 due 13 jan 2016

17:49:35 [trackbot]

Set action-1749 Review ui events due date to 2016-01-13.

17:49:42 [MichaelC]

action-1750 due 13 jan 2016

17:49:42 [trackbot]

Set action-1750 Review ui events due date to 2016-01-13.

17:50:07 [LJWatson]

Push API https://w3c.github.io/push-api/index.html

17:50:30 [fesch]

lw: push API another working draft

17:51:18 [MichaelC]

present+ MichaelC

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/12/02-pf-minutes.html MichaelC

17:51:34 [fesch]

lw: I can take this one

17:52:18 [MichaelC]

action: watson to review push api http://www.w3.org/TR/push-api/ - due 2 weeks

17:52:18 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-1751 - Review push api http://www.w3.org/tr/push-api/ [on Léonie Watson - due 2015-12-16].

17:53:28 [MichaelC]

present+ James_Nurthen, Gottfried_Zimmerman

17:53:46 [MichaelC]

present+ Cynthia_Shelly

17:54:04 [LJWatson]

Gamepad API https://w3c.github.io/gamepad/

17:56:24 [janina]

action: Cyns to find someone at Xbox to look at Gamepad API due 20160113

17:56:24 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-1752 - Find someone at xbox to look at gamepad api due 20160113 [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2015-12-09].

17:57:06 [janina]

action: fesch to look at SVG in GamepadAPI, Push API, etc due 20160113

17:57:06 [trackbot]

Created ACTION-1753 - Look at svg in gamepadapi, push api, etc due 20160113 [on Fred Esch - due 2015-12-09].

17:57:36 [fesch]

js: anything else?

17:58:11 [fesch]

rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/12/02-pf-minutes.html fesch

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