16:53:16 RRSAgent has joined #pf 16:53:16 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/12/02-pf-irc 16:53:18 RRSAgent, make logs public 16:53:18 Zakim has joined #pf 16:53:20 Zakim, this will be WAI_PF 16:53:20 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 16:53:21 Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference 16:53:21 Date: 02 December 2015 16:53:23 agenda? 16:53:28 agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes 16:53:28 agenda+ APA Housekeeping Reminders http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html 16:53:28 agenda+ Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open 16:53:28 agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html 16:53:30 agenda+ Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/ 16:53:31 agenda+ RQTF Organization -- Markku Hakkinen 16:53:33 agenda+ Other Business 16:53:36 agenda+ next and future meetings http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_273 16:53:39 agenda+ be done 16:56:08 present+ Janina 16:56:12 chair: Janina 16:56:20 zakim, next item 16:56:20 agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina] 17:00:32 JF has joined #PF 17:03:17 LJWatson has joined #pf 17:03:24 present+ Joanmarie_Diggs 17:04:15 present+ LJWatson 17:05:22 fesch has joined #pf 17:05:30 Gottfried has joined #pf 17:05:36 ShaneM has joined #pf 17:05:52 present+ fesch 17:06:02 present+ JF 17:06:22 scribe: fesch 17:07:51 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #pf 17:07:51 js: proposing we take last 2 weeks of December off - no call on 23 and 30th 17:08:06 js: anyone have a problem with that? 17:08:08 Present+ ShaneM 17:08:48 js: OK we won't meet Dec 23 or 30 17:09:13 js: any additions to agenda or news items? 17:10:13 gz: we have two project proposals - protocol between client and server and preferences of the user 17:10:36 gz: national bodies should have discussed this, can send an outline of a draft 17:10:46 js: any problem putting it on list? 17:10:58 present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger 17:11:05 gz: just an outline 17:11:32 jamesn has joined #PF 17:11:56 cs: on edge platform team! 17:12:09 cs: have time to standards work 17:12:25 s/to/to do/ 17:12:53 zakim, next item 17:12:53 agendum 2. "APA Housekeeping Reminders http://www.w3.org/2015/10/apa-charter.html" taken up [from janina] 17:13:03 rrsagent, make minutes 17:13:03 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/12/02-pf-minutes.html jamesn 17:14:29 js: make sure you join APA WG, charter expires tomorrow, MC will give updates tomorrow on publications 17:15:31 js: any questions on APA? 17:15:40 zakim, next item 17:15:40 agendum 3. "Actions Review (Specs) http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/open" taken up [from janina] 17:15:54 action-1742 17:15:54 action-1742 -- Shane McCarron to Review media source extensions http://www.w3.org/tr/media-source/ for maur relationship -- due 2015-11-25 -- OPEN 17:15:54 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1742 17:16:15 close action-1742 17:16:15 Closed action-1742. 17:16:50 action-1722 17:16:50 action-1722 -- Janina Sajka to Look at emma 2.0 http://www.w3.org/tr/2015/wd-emma20-20150908/ -- due 2015-09-23 -- OPEN 17:16:50 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1722 17:17:15 mc: MAUR approved for publication tomorrow 17:17:31 action-1722 due 2 weeks 17:17:31 Set action-1722 Look at emma 2.0 http://www.w3.org/tr/2015/wd-emma20-20150908/ due date to 2015-12-16. 17:17:40 action-1685 due 2 weeks 17:17:40 Set action-1685 Manage review of http://www.w3.org/tr/2015/wd-tracking-compliance-20150714/ tracking compliance and scope (note explicit review request needs response) due date to 2015-12-16. 17:17:48 action-1597 due 2 weeks 17:17:48 Set action-1597 Review web midi api http://www.w3.org/tr/webmidi/ due date to 2015-12-16. 17:17:57 action-1566 due 2 weeks 17:17:57 Set action-1566 Follow up with web notifications folk on cyn's response due date to 2015-12-16. 17:18:10 action-1669 17:18:10 action-1669 -- Katie Haritos-Shea to Look at data on the web best practices http://www.w3.org/tr/dwbp/ -- due 2015-10-21 -- OPEN 17:18:10 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1669 17:18:25 action-1648 17:18:25 action-1648 -- James Nurthen to Review entry point regulation http://www.w3.org/tr/epr/ -- due 2015-09-23 -- OPEN 17:18:25 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1648 17:18:42 action-1648 due 2 weeks 17:18:42 Set action-1648 Review entry point regulation http://www.w3.org/tr/epr/ due date to 2015-12-16. 17:18:49 action-1629 due 2 weeks 17:18:50 Set action-1629 Review manifest for a web application http://www.w3.org/tr/appmanifest/ due date to 2015-12-16. 17:19:14 action-1549 17:19:14 action-1549 -- Cynthia Shelly to Review http://www.w3.org/tr/css-align-3/ and http://www.w3.org/tr/css-inline-3/ due 20150222 -- due 2015-02-22 -- OPEN 17:19:14 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1549 17:19:51 cyns has joined #pf 17:20:05 action-1549 17:20:05 action-1549 -- Cynthia Shelly to Review http://www.w3.org/tr/css-align-3/ and http://www.w3.org/tr/css-inline-3/ due 20150222 -- due 2015-02-22 -- OPEN 17:20:05 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1549 17:21:43 zakim, next item 17:21:43 agendum 4. "new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html" taken up [from janina] 17:22:35 mc: no CR... nothing to look at 17:22:41 zakim, next item 17:22:41 agendum 4 was just opened, fesch 17:22:51 zakim, close item 17:22:51 I don't understand 'close item', fesch 17:23:00 zakim, close this item 17:23:00 agendum 4 closed 17:23:01 I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 17:23:01 5. Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/ [from janina] 17:23:06 zakim, next item 17:23:06 agendum 5. "Community Groups http://www.w3.org/community/groups/" taken up [from janina] 17:24:05 js: we agreed to reduce the footprint on this call. Can drop off agenda until January 17:24:38 mc: we were going to do community groups once a month and every 6 months, review list on tracking page 17:25:06 jn: and for the once a month someone was going to prep ahead of time - next time JF 17:25:29 JF: not prepared this time 17:25:54 mc: will send JF an email on where to pick up 17:26:20 topic: PF Publications 17:26:21 js: in January will take on semi annual task of reviewing all groups 17:26:45 js: MAUR has been approved for publication tomorrow 17:27:10 js: blog draft for MAUR 17:27:25 JF: have cycles 17:27:36 js: can JF look at draft? 17:28:08 mc: need to check the emailed draft... 17:29:45 mc: poster need account on blog platform... or MC can post with a by line 17:30:39 mc: All publications are ready to go, two public working drafts awaiting approval, 17:31:02 mc: if I don't get approval soon, web master may not post it... 17:32:12 lw: will get official approval today... 17:32:40 zakim, next item 17:32:40 agendum 6. "RQTF Organization -- Markku Hakkinen" taken up [from janina] 17:32:51 zakim, close item 17:32:51 I don't understand 'close item', fesch 17:32:59 zakim, close this item 17:32:59 agendum 6 closed 17:33:00 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 17:33:00 7. Other Business [from janina] 17:33:04 zakim, next item 17:33:04 agendum 7. "Other Business" taken up [from janina] 17:33:21 q+ 17:33:45 q+ to ask about invited expert joining of other groups 17:35:03 js: Leone mentioned a couple of documents for web platform? 17:35:37 lw: quick heads up about the specs, haven't looked at them yet 17:36:30 Pointer Lock https://w3c.github.io/pointerlock/ 17:37:19 q+ to ask about WAI IG announcement messages 17:38:19 Screen Orientation https://w3c.github.io/screen-orientation/ 17:38:46 q- later 17:38:51 lw: it is a working draft 17:39:49 shane: invited experts process seems stuck 17:40:07 js: stuck above MC paygrade... 17:41:11 jn: it goes into when you can lock it.... and for security... 17:41:17 lw: we should review 17:42:29 ack s 17:42:29 ShaneM, you wanted to ask about invited expert joining of other groups 17:42:43 lw: UI events 17:42:55 rs: we have an interest in UI events 17:43:48 https://w3c.github.io/uievents/ 17:44:06 rs: who looked at it? on webapps side? 17:45:35 rs: need to look at it in the context of WAPA... 17:45:59 I would like to review this too 17:46:05 cyns has joined #pf 17:46:25 rs: Rich, Cynthia will review 17:46:26 ACTION: Léonie to review Screen Orientation API 17:46:26 Created ACTION-1748 - Review screen orientation api [on Léonie Watson - due 2015-12-09]. 17:47:56 js: first week of January might be a good time to clean up PF/APA/ARIA task split 17:48:31 action: rich to review UI Events 17:48:31 Created ACTION-1749 - Review ui events [on Richard Schwerdtfeger - due 2015-12-09]. 17:48:38 action: Cyns to review UI Events 17:48:38 Created ACTION-1750 - Review ui events [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2015-12-09]. 17:49:35 action-1749 due 13 jan 2016 17:49:35 Set action-1749 Review ui events due date to 2016-01-13. 17:49:42 action-1750 due 13 jan 2016 17:49:42 Set action-1750 Review ui events due date to 2016-01-13. 17:50:07 Push API https://w3c.github.io/push-api/index.html 17:50:30 lw: push API another working draft 17:51:18 present+ MichaelC 17:51:28 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/12/02-pf-minutes.html MichaelC 17:51:34 lw: I can take this one 17:52:18 action: watson to review push api http://www.w3.org/TR/push-api/ - due 2 weeks 17:52:18 Created ACTION-1751 - Review push api http://www.w3.org/tr/push-api/ [on Léonie Watson - due 2015-12-16]. 17:53:28 present+ James_Nurthen, Gottfried_Zimmerman 17:53:46 present+ Cynthia_Shelly 17:54:04 Gamepad API https://w3c.github.io/gamepad/ 17:56:24 action: Cyns to find someone at Xbox to look at Gamepad API due 20160113 17:56:24 Created ACTION-1752 - Find someone at xbox to look at gamepad api due 20160113 [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2015-12-09]. 17:57:06 action: fesch to look at SVG in GamepadAPI, Push API, etc due 20160113 17:57:06 Created ACTION-1753 - Look at svg in gamepadapi, push api, etc due 20160113 [on Fred Esch - due 2015-12-09]. 17:57:36 js: anything else? 17:58:11 rrsagent, make minutes 17:58:11 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/12/02-pf-minutes.html fesch 18:01:22 fesch has left #pf 18:48:19 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #pf 19:01:26 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #pf 20:19:09 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #pf 20:35:07 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #pf