01:06:35 RRSAgent has joined #webapps 01:06:35 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-webapps-irc 01:06:36 masayuki has joined #webapps 01:06:49 Hi! 01:06:58 Travis: hi! 01:07:34 garykac has joined #webapps 01:07:56 garykac: hi. 01:08:02 hello 01:09:43 Agenda: 01:09:50 I updated the github uievents readme with the updated info for this meeting. 01:09:50 Review recent activity 01:11:08 I was able to transfer over our meeting minutes to Github. 01:11:32 https://github.com/w3c/uievents/wiki/Meeting-Notes 01:11:42 Now, there is nothing in the old WebApps wiki. 01:12:00 (And I put a link to the new home in case anyone stumbles there by accident.) 01:12:35 I fixed most of the |key| and |code| bugs 01:12:47 There are no outstanding |key| bugs. 01:12:54 Very nice! 01:13:07 There are 3 remaining |code| issues: 01:13:25 Thank you, to implement them on Firefox is in my queue. 01:13:49 featurephone section (which require text and a figure -- all the |key| values have been defined) 01:14:02 https://github.com/w3c/DOM-Level-3-Events-code/issues 01:14:26 Unidentified: needs text added to the spec describing when it should be used. 01:14:33 it's related to the last issue: 01:14:56 Need text to describe what to do with |code| for virtual keyboards and other non-standard cases. 01:15:23 Other than |Unidentified|, all of the |code| values are in the spec. 01:16:05 Excellent progress. 01:16:24 I noticed in Issue 47: https://github.com/w3c/uievents/issues/47 -- we are no longer blocked! 01:17:00 I didn't look at any of the UIEvents bugs - I just focused on key and code bugs. 01:17:19 I had intended to put some of the "quick fix" bugs to rest, but got off track. 01:17:57 marcosc has joined #webapps 01:18:49 marcosc_ has joined #webapps 01:21:34 Now looking at issue 50: https://github.com/w3c/uievents/issues/50 01:22:41 Some good text from HTML5: http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/obsolete.html#obsolete 01:22:49 marcosc has joined #webapps 01:24:02 marcosc has joined #webapps 01:24:04 Propose changing: "This section is informative" -> "This section is normative, but these features are deprecated. They should only be implemented by user agents that require compatibility with legacy software." 01:24:17 deprecated or obsolete? any preference? 01:25:24 I'd break it into two sentences: This section is normative. The following features are obsolete and should only be... 01:29:52 tantek has joined #webapps 01:30:09 Issue 43 - https://github.com/w3c/uievents/issues/43 01:30:35 I resolved that bug (Legacy appendices) 01:32:34 The "file a bug" link still goes to bugzilla :-( 01:33:56 Here's a way to do it: https://github.com/w3c/media-source/issues/new 01:35:42 That opens the new bug page, but it doesn't copy the text into the bug. 01:36:08 I'm not sure how to do that with github (other than via a POST, which is more effort than it's worth) 01:36:36 Maybe we can drop the feature. I'm not sure how helpful it has been... 01:40:36 marcosc_ has joined #webapps 01:43:27 paul___irish has joined #webapps 01:46:24 (Gary fixes a couple of easy bugs.) 01:46:37 The bug link should now go to github rather than bugzilla 01:49:42 Let's talk about testing... 01:49:56 We should definitely do it. 01:52:57 https://github.com/w3c/uievents/issues/25 seems like a meta bug covering all of our testing. 01:54:34 We would like to have tests that cover all of our event order descriptions (at a minimum) 01:57:48 And I would like to get some manual tests to verify our |key| and |code| values for different keyboard/locale combos. 01:59:24 We'd like to rename to ui-events-key and ui-events-code 01:59:25 zcorpan has joined #webapps 01:59:52 Yes, the rename would be nice if it's possible 02:00:05 We should try to clean up the references to DOM3 in the spec. 02:00:55 OK. We got a few more issues resolved. 02:01:40 We'll try to meet again next week, but I won't be available the following week. (The 24th.) 02:01:51 OK. 02:02:00 no problem. 02:02:07 Next week we can perhaps talk more about testing. 02:02:13 sounds good. 02:02:51 'til next week... 02:03:02 rrsagent, make the minutes 02:03:02 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/11/11-webapps-minutes.html Travis 02:03:14 rrsagent, make logs public 02:08:58 See you! 02:19:05 sicking has joined #webapps 02:32:43 tantek has joined #webapps 03:00:08 zcorpan has joined #webapps 03:03:50 hober has joined #webapps 03:53:50 marcosc has joined #webapps 04:10:44 marcosc has joined #webapps 04:11:09 marcosc has joined #webapps 04:34:19 sicking has joined #webapps 04:56:59 zcorpan has joined #webapps 05:26:04 Mek has joined #webapps 06:40:57 kochi2 has joined #webapps 07:23:48 zcorpan has joined #webapps 07:37:21 chaals has joined #webapps 07:45:18 guillaume has joined #webapps 07:50:18 sicking has joined #webapps 08:23:04 kochi2 has joined #webapps 08:27:15 kochi2 has joined #webapps 08:29:56 kochi2 has joined #webapps 08:38:27 LJWatson has joined #webapps 08:52:52 zcorpan has joined #webapps 08:55:53 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 09:05:34 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 09:11:00 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 09:15:24 wilsonpa_ has joined #webapps 09:22:04 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 09:37:47 smaug has joined #webapps 09:38:13 marcosc has joined #webapps 09:56:24 kochi2 has joined #webapps 10:11:03 jungkees has joined #webapps 10:33:25 chaals has joined #webapps 10:34:00 dka has joined #webapps 10:34:20 jungkees has joined #webapps 11:38:48 marcosc has joined #webapps 11:39:02 zcorpan has joined #webapps 11:47:34 ArtB has joined #webapps 12:00:22 zcorpan has joined #webapps 12:01:03 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 12:23:35 zcorpan has joined #webapps 12:23:42 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 12:37:57 wilsonpage has joined #webapps 12:39:39 zcorpan_ has joined #webapps 12:50:48 zcorpan has joined #webapps 12:53:06 zcorpan_ has joined #webapps 13:18:23 rniwa has joined #webapps 13:24:36 zcorpan has joined #webapps 13:39:56 marcosc has joined #webapps 14:01:50 joannawu has joined #webapps 14:07:51 chaals has joined #webapps 14:10:56 yusukesuzuki has joined #webapps 14:29:56 zcorpan has joined #webapps 14:47:12 zcorpan has joined #webapps 14:51:04 rniwa has joined #webapps 15:10:59 smaug has joined #webapps 15:12:15 smaug has joined #webapps 15:12:47 zcorpan_ has joined #webapps 15:25:26 kochi2 has joined #webapps 15:45:44 zcorpan has joined #webapps 15:50:41 fjh has joined #webapps 16:06:06 kochi2 has joined #webapps 16:10:43 kochi2 has joined #webapps 16:24:23 zcorpan has joined #webapps 16:27:16 zcorpan_ has joined #webapps 16:43:39 sicking has joined #webapps 16:45:37 zcorpan has joined #webapps 16:53:20 kochi2 has joined #webapps 16:54:34 LJWatson has joined #webapps 16:55:43 Florian has joined #webapps 16:59:02 paul___irish has joined #webapps 16:59:04 kochi2 has joined #webapps 17:10:06 bkardell_ has joined #webapps 17:16:50 joannawu has joined #webapps 17:23:15 zcorpan has joined #webapps 17:23:33 paul___irish has joined #webapps 17:43:02 kochi2 has joined #webapps 17:44:01 marcosc has joined #webapps 17:50:20 rniwa has joined #webapps 18:02:35 kbx has joined #webapps 18:17:25 fjh has joined #webapps 18:23:03 paul___irish has joined #webapps 18:29:26 fjh has joined #webapps 18:41:06 kochi2 has joined #webapps 18:47:33 paul___irish has joined #webapps 18:49:54 kbx has joined #webapps 18:55:14 fjh has joined #webapps 18:59:10 LJWatson has joined #webapps 19:02:05 fjh has joined #webapps 19:08:40 fjh has joined #webapps 19:11:34 paul___irish has joined #webapps 19:12:05 dka has joined #webapps 19:13:50 zcorpan has joined #webapps 19:15:06 kochi2 has joined #webapps 19:17:09 zcorpan has joined #webapps 19:20:05 kochi2 has joined #webapps 19:33:12 kbx has joined #webapps 20:03:11 bkardell_ has joined #webapps 20:10:55 kochi2 has joined #webapps 20:13:49 kbx has joined #webapps 20:16:55 joannawu has joined #webapps 20:31:51 rniwa has joined #webapps 20:35:32 LJWatson has joined #webapps 20:54:54 rniwa has joined #webapps 21:02:35 zcorpan has joined #webapps 21:02:46 zcorpan_ has joined #webapps 21:09:16 fjh has joined #webapps 21:13:17 kbx has joined #webapps 21:16:16 fjh has joined #webapps 21:21:41 paul___irish has joined #webapps 22:00:29 kochi2 has joined #webapps 22:45:51 smaug has joined #webapps 23:00:40 chaals has joined #webapps 23:05:07 kochi2 has joined #webapps 23:18:02 kochi2 has joined #webapps 23:36:09 kbx has joined #webapps 23:54:34 sicking has joined #webapps 23:55:15 zcorpan has joined #webapps