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15:05:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:05:34 <trackbot> Date: 04 November 2015
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15:06:00 <allanj> chair: Jim and Andrew
15:06:07 <allanj> regrets: bruce
15:06:15 <allanj> present+ jim
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15:08:14 <allanj> Agenda+ scribe
15:08:16 <allanj> Agenda+ what is purpose/audience of our documents (wiki & others)
15:08:17 <allanj> Agenda+ walk through Requirements Doc - purpose, audience, etc.
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15:20:13 <shawn-charter> agenda?
15:23:29 <shawn> regrets+ Erich
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15:35:46 <shawn> present+ Shawn
15:35:54 <AWK> +AWK
15:35:54 <shawn> present+ Wayne
15:36:16 <laura> present+ Laura
15:37:04 <AWK> regrets+ Srinivasu, Alan_Smith
15:37:21 <AWK> Regrets+ Bruce
15:37:29 <laura> Zakim, next item
15:37:29 <Zakim> agendum 1. "scribe" taken up [from allanj]
15:37:40 <allanj> close item 1
15:37:50 <laura> Scribe: Laura
15:37:50 <allanj> open next item
15:38:15 <AWK> LVTF wiki: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
15:38:32 <allanj> Topic: what is purpose/audience of our documents (wiki & others)
15:38:54 <laura> Jim: Wants to discuss purpose of our documents.
15:39:38 <laura> Jim: Some are internal docs some may be useful for others.
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15:40:20 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/LVTF_Documents#Deliverables
15:40:24 <laura> Shawn: We may want to polish some docs.
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15:41:01 <laura> Shawn: Some wiki pages may be background.
15:41:25 <Wayne> wayne+
15:41:41 <laura> Jim: Some may be useful for an appendix.
15:42:46 <laura> Shawn: Want to be careful of referencing Wiki pages.
15:43:11 <Wayne> scribe: wayne
15:43:56 <Wayne> Jim: Shawn, maybe we can refer to the following documents:
15:44:00 <allanj> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/LVTF_Documents
15:45:49 <laura> scribe: Laura
15:46:34 <laura> AWK: Requirement doc would be in TR space.
15:48:18 <laura> Jim: Requirements Doc has 2 primaries and a secondary purpose.
15:48:54 <laura> AWK: Change it to a Low vision user requirements doc.
15:51:09 <laura> Shawn: Need to decide where to point designers and developers.
15:52:29 <laura> AWK: How much front matter is needed in ta TR doc? We can try to minimize?
15:53:15 <laura> …Should have document as a note.
15:54:14 <laura> Shawn: Can we have something else more interesting?
15:55:16 <allanj> laura: user stories would help with informing developers and others about reading the web with low vision
15:55:36 <allanj> ja: link back to requirements doc
15:56:05 <laura> Laura: Maybe go back to having user stories. Scenarios.
15:57:56 <laura> AWK: Need clear set of requirements for different groups.
15:58:09 <allanj> topic: audience
15:58:45 <laura> …not sure how to differentiate.
16:00:21 <laura> Wayne: Likes the arrangement.
16:02:13 <allanj> perhaps in the requirements, we can say this requirement is a content requirement, or this is a user agent requirement, or both
16:02:32 <laura> [discussion on where to point people]
16:04:15 <laura> AWK: Need to be sure to have something that talks about delta.
16:05:13 <allanj> topic: scope
16:07:07 <laura> Jim: Some may be hardware or software.  Shouldn’t limit scope.
16:07:56 <laura> Wayne: May have to mention older tech.
16:11:01 <laura> AWK: If X is a requirement make it clear that content authors don’t have to worry about it and user agent will handle it.
16:11:33 <allanj> topic: content notes
16:12:07 <laura> Wayne: We want an end result not worried about how  we get there.
16:14:13 <laura> Jim: Focus on general needs and specific problems can fit into that.
16:14:52 <laura> …Need to quantify.
16:16:49 <laura> Jim: Do we want to set priorities?
16:17:04 <laura> Wayne: just put them out there.
16:19:02 <laura> Shawn: Hesitation if we have to set levels.
16:19:46 <shawn> s/Hesitation if we have to set levels./Hesitation - if we have to set levels later, maybe good to indicate some priority now?
16:20:07 <laura> Wayne: Limit ourselves to what impacts reading and usage.
16:22:13 <laura> Shawn: There is a priory to some of these.
16:22:18 <laura> Wayne: Maybe we don’t need to list them in this doc.
16:22:51 <laura> Jim: Have that debate later?
16:22:59 <laura> Wayne: Yes.
16:23:28 <laura> Shawn: We can decide that later.
16:24:26 <laura> AWK: Leave the research section to later.
16:24:37 <allanj> +1
16:27:22 <laura> Shawn: Perhaps include them but use them as examples.
16:28:25 <laura> Shawn: Be careful what we are including are broader issues and not get lost in details.
16:29:24 <laura> Jim: Maybe have general user story for each section?
16:29:47 <laura> …could go either way.
16:30:42 <laura> Shawn: People always want a checklist. Can have a filter.
16:31:02 <laura> Topic: Title
16:31:20 <allanj> +1 Low Vision User Requirements
16:32:37 <allanj> +1 Low Vision Users Accessibility Requirements
16:32:49 <laura> Wayne: Maybe “Wayne: Low Vision User Accessibility Requirements”
16:33:36 <laura> Laura: +1
16:34:08 <laura>  rrsagent, make minutes
16:34:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/11/04-lvtf-minutes.html laura
16:43:42 <laura> trackbot, end meeting
16:43:42 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:43:42 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jim, Shawn, AWK, Wayne, Laura
16:43:50 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:43:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/11/04-lvtf-minutes.html trackbot
16:43:51 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:43:51 <RRSAgent> I see no action items