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23:51:38 <xiaoqian> zakim, this is HTML5 Chinese IG TPAC F2F Meeting
23:51:38 <Zakim> got it, xiaoqian
23:51:47 <xiaoqian> RRSAgent, start log
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23:52:25 <xiaoqian> RRSAgent, make minutes
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23:53:33 <xiaoqian> chair: zqzhang
23:53:39 <xiaoqian> scribe: zqzhang
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23:56:58 <myles> present+ myles
23:58:02 <zqzhang> present+ zqzhang
23:58:29 <zqzhang> agenda+ Self Intro: name + company
23:59:08 <zqzhang> agenda+ 中文排版需求
23:59:25 <xiaoqian> Requirements for Chinese Text Layout -> http://w3c.github.io/clreq/
23:59:38 <zqzhang> agenda+ 翻译以及IG未来一年工作计划
23:59:57 <zqzhang> agenda+ Advancing Web Platform Application CG 介绍和工作模式讨论
00:00:15 <zqzhang> agenda+ 浏览器下拉滚动优化
00:00:40 <zqzhang> agenda?
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00:03:27 <zqzhang> Xiaoqian: Let's start from the Chinese layout session
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00:04:46 <xiaoqian> Requirements for Chinese Text Layout -> http://w3c.github.io/clreq/
00:06:03 <zqzhang> Bobby: go through the Requirements for Chinese Text Layout
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00:06:53 <zqzhang> ... More generic character?
00:13:08 <zqzhang> agenda- 1
00:16:40 <chunming> Previous diescussion on Chinese fount family: https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Chinese_font_families
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00:26:06 <Bobby> https://medium.com/@bobtung/best-practice-in-chinese-layout-f933aff1728f#.71ti3fm2s
00:51:48 <xiaoqian> Spacing and Hanging Punctuations -> https://github.com/w3c/clreq/issues/91
00:52:15 <xiaoqian> Baselines Calculation for mixture of Hans & Western -> #92
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00:56:46 <Bobby> http://binb.tw/bopomofo/case01/index.html
00:56:52 <Bobby> http://binb.tw/bopomofo/case02/
00:56:58 <Bobby> http://binb.tw/bopomofo/case03/
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01:00:05 <r12a> http://r12a.github.io/scripts/bopomofo/ontheweb
01:00:33 <zqzhang> agenda?
01:00:44 <zqzhang> agenda- 2
01:01:38 <zqzhang> agenda order 5 4 3
01:01:45 <zqzhang> agenda?
01:03:11 <xiaoqian> hakim, take up agenda 5
01:03:18 <xiaoqian> zakim, take up agenda 5
01:03:18 <Zakim> agendum 5. "浏览器下拉滚动优化" taken up [from zqzhang]
01:05:33 <samliu> http://www.yfshoes.com/TEST/maxcms/video_detail.html
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01:07:41 <xiaoqian> scribe: xiaoqian
01:08:32 <xiaoqian> samliu: let the user aware that they can continue scrolling by a negative number
01:09:00 <xiaoqian> ... even when they reach the bottom
01:09:23 <xiaoqian> ... so we want a new event with a different name
01:10:26 <xiaoqian> xidorn: I proposed to the CSS WG that we should have @@
01:11:04 <xiaoqian> ... so that we can report the boundary to the develop
01:11:20 <xiaoqian> ... scroll out should be native attr
01:12:50 <xiaoqian> rniwa: What's different between boundary and viewport?
01:13:33 <xiaoqian> xidorn: not relevant, just to mention that :)
01:13:47 <xidorn> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2015Oct/0180.html
01:14:47 <xiaoqian> samliu: our proposed events "pullstart" "pullend" "pullmove" "pullcancel"
01:16:01 <xiaoqian> ... which returns the position information similar to a touch
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01:17:55 <xiaoqian> hax: the property of this event should be carefully designejd
01:18:57 <xiaoqian> @@: in Safari, no way to pull down webview
01:20:03 <xiaoqian> ... another model is to fake an event, we already fire an event, no value here
01:20:39 <xiaoqian> rniwa: in houdini, it's possible to show content out viewport
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01:22:56 <xidorn> https://drafts.css-houdini.org/css-scroll-api/
01:23:01 <xiaoqian> xidorn: houdini has a session about scrolling
01:24:10 <xiaoqian> rniwa: we need figure out how to show the UI out of boundary
01:24:47 <xiaoqian> ... not sure it works with the native code
01:25:13 <xiaoqian> @@: This is definitely those things houdini is aimed to solve
01:26:46 <xiaoqian> [introduction about houdini]
01:27:40 <myles> white guy in black shirt
01:28:03 <xiaoqian> s/@@/myles
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02:08:10 <xiaoqian> RRSAgent, make minutes
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02:08:43 <Jinjiang> I'm in
02:09:39 <Jinjiang> remote audio is not stable ... partly heard partly lost
02:12:05 <chunming> part one is more related to compatibility testing (兼容性测试)
02:14:10 <chunming> part two is more focusing on performance testing about browser+hardware platform. a project lead by RITT(电信研究院) to give a performance test (benchmark) to
02:15:45 <chunming> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests
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02:26:26 <xidorn> http://arewefastyet.com/
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02:37:16 <Jinjiang> Thx
02:38:00 <zqzhang> agenda?
02:38:13 <zqzhang> agenda- 5
02:38:21 <zqzhang> agenda- 4
02:38:31 <zqzhang> agenda?
02:38:58 <Jinjiang> 我这边音频完全断掉了
02:39:01 <zqzhang> https://github.com/w3c-html-ig-zh
02:39:10 <Jinjiang> 就在这里继续参与了
02:39:26 <zqzhang> 能不能再连接一次？
02:39:35 <Jinjiang> 克鹏的桌面信号我还能看
02:39:45 <Jinjiang> 我重连试试看
02:39:58 <Jinjiang> (不过本身音频就断断续续的……)
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02:42:50 <Jinjiang> 还是连不上音频，视频可以
02:43:19 <xiaoqian> Topic: Advancing Web Platform Application CG
02:46:01 <xiaoqian> resolved: Goal 1) create a benchmark from the large Chinese Applications(Baidu, Tencent, Alibaba) to provide a reference to evaluate the performance of the browser
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02:49:04 <xiaoqian> resolved: Goal 2) Create a subset for those test cases within the current web-platform-test suite that have 2+ implementations and identify the corresponding web features, to provide a reference to Web Developers as stable HTML5 features
02:50:21 <Jinjiang> http://w3c-html-ig-zh.github.io/css-will-change/
02:50:45 <xiaoqian> s/web-platform-test suite/web-platform-test HTML5 test suite
02:57:01 <xiaoqian> jinjiang: How about we start a project to collect CanIUse information of Chinese browser vendors?
02:57:17 <xiaoqian> Xidorn: wonengyong.com??
02:58:02 <xidorn> 这个域名还没注册耶
02:58:02 <xiaoqian> zqzhang: We can liaison with the CG for this project
02:59:03 <xidorn> 我能用.com 也还没注册ww
02:59:44 <xiaoqian> kepeng: I'll follow up with Jinjiang
03:00:49 <xiaoqian> zqzhang: Shall we continue the review of ES5 translation? or move to ES6?
03:01:22 <xiaoqian> hax: depends on the interest and input from the volunteers
03:01:48 <xiaoqian> xidorn: Moz has provided a set of introduction of ES6
03:03:34 <xiaoqian> Jinjiang: We can try calling for participants
03:12:02 <xiaoqian> RRSAgent, make miuntes
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07:08:11 <xiaoqian> RRSAgent, part
07:08:11 <RRSAgent> I see no action items