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07:47:09 <Bert1> many mobile assistants are based on natural language
07:47:09 <Bert1> siri, cortana, google now
07:47:09 <Bert1> why concede this space to proprietary solutions?
07:47:09 <Bert1> what about enterprise specific
07:47:09 <Bert1> doesn't scale
07:47:10 <Bert1> ddahl
07:47:10 <Bert1> bert: thing on the web that's not a browser
07:47:10 <Bert1> ddahl
07:47:10 <Bert1> ...doesn't need speech interaction but maybe gestures
07:47:10 <Bert1> ...natural language is too chatty for typing
07:47:10 <Bert1> debbie: there could be much more dialog-like
07:47:11 <Bert1> ddahl
07:47:11 <Bert1> bert: would like to control the output
07:47:11 <Bert1> ddahl
07:47:11 <Bert1> debbie: Siri often gives you just Wikipedia
07:47:11 <Bert1> ...maybe an open source platform that you could customize, e.g. load the sports module
07:47:11 <Bert1> ...good for accessibility
07:47:12 <Bert1> ...skip advertising
07:47:12 <Bert1> ...would like to be able to ask for links on the page
07:47:12 <Bert1> debbie: could index conversations by location, time, topic
07:47:12 <Bert1> ...should be able to encode data visualization
07:47:12 <Bert1> ...in a way that you like or different ways
07:47:13 <Bert1> ddahl
07:47:13 <Bert1> bert: saw something that looked at the links and several levels of links past that
07:47:13 <Bert1> ddahl
07:47:13 <Bert1> debbie: EMMA 2.0 can support multimodal fission to allocate levels of concreteness to an output
07:47:13 <Bert1> ddahl
07:47:13 <Bert1> bert: regularize navigation in a web page, e.g. a standard table of contents
07:47:14 <Bert1> ddahl
07:47:14 <Bert1> ..could generate table of contents from a web page
07:47:14 <Bert1> debbie: browers haven't become user-friendly
07:47:14 <Bert1> ddahl
07:47:14 <Bert1> bert: often uses text browsers or curl to just get information, or just uses atom or rss feed
07:47:21 <Bert1> rrsagent, make minutes
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07:50:16 <ddahl> debbie: bert's requirements -- doesn't need speech, more interested in desktop, not really interested in natural language
07:54:33 <ddahl> ...could be interested in a history of interactions and then bringing them back
07:55:21 <ddahl> bert: Opera allows user style sheets
07:55:41 <ddahl> ...but Opera doesn't have per-site style sheets
07:56:19 <ddahl> ...possible with Mozilla
07:56:33 <ddahl> ...but can't reorder
07:58:00 <ddahl> ...would also like to do this with non-web info like mail
08:00:17 <ddahl> debbie: could also go to REST API's, for example Best Buy
08:00:34 <ddahl> bert: mobile sites are sometimes better
08:01:17 <ddahl> ...also easier to scrape
08:03:03 <ddahl> debbie: this isn't what I expected, but interesting
08:04:00 <ddahl> ...more interested in accessing semantics of page
08:06:48 <ddahl> debbie: would be nice to also integrate best practices from other sites with information
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08:12:56 <ddahl> meeting: Standards for Personal Assistants
08:13:03 <ddahl> chair: Debbie_Dahl
08:13:18 <ddahl> present: debbie, bert
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