IRC log of alreq on 2015-10-20

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Zakim, this is ALReq Weekly, 20 October 2015
14:53:45 [Zakim]
got it, Shervin
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present+ Shervin
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ScribeNick: Shervin
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present+ mostafa
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present+ Behnam
14:57:05 [Behnam]
zakim, this is Arabic Layout Requirements 5th Weekly Meeting
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got it, Behnam
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ScribeNick: Behnam
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ScribeNick: Shervin
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agenda+ Status review of action items from previous meeting
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agenda+ Recruiting Status
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agenda+ Status report on glossary work
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agenda+ Status report on list of references
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agenda+ Planning for start of drafting
15:03:35 [Behnam]
Shervin, are you calling in?
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Trying. WebEx ain't working. Trying to dial in.
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present+ r12a
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agenda?
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Chair: Behnam
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Hi
15:07:47 [Shervin]
present+ Najib
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calling...
15:08:01 [r12a]
ACTION: Behnam to file github issues for special cases,
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like Quran [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2015/10/13-alreq-minutes.html#action09]
15:10:13 [r12a]
action- 1
15:10:19 [Behnam]
actions?
15:10:23 [r12a]
ACTION: Behnam to file github issues for special cases, like Quran
15:10:25 [r12a]
actions?
15:11:54 [r12a]
ACTION: Behnam to follow-up with Martin about a Lightning Talk at the IUC
15:12:07 [r12a]
ACTION: Behnam to prepare slides for the talk and share with the TF
15:12:34 [r12a]
Gather information about Arabic-specific Typesetting software
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actions?
15:14:07 [Shervin]
Behnam: Is working on the slides for the IUC presentation.
15:14:24 [Shervin]
Behnam: Next agenda item is about typesetting software.
15:14:42 [r12a]
ACTION: Everybody to gather information about Arabic-specific Typesetting software
15:15:06 [r12a]
ACTION: Richard to figure out how to maintain action items
15:15:11 [Shervin]
Zakim, open agendum 1
15:15:11 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Status review of action items from previous meeting" taken up [from Shervin]
15:15:14 [r12a]
closed
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actions?
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action- 6
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actions?
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ACTION: Behnam to file an issue re Math and whether to exclude that in the first version
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ongoing
15:17:18 [Shervin]
Behnam: is still working on action item related to math.
15:17:28 [r12a]
ACTION: Behnam to research the existing experts for other languages like Urdu
15:17:54 [r12a]
ACTION: r12a to check regarding processing of the minutes and get back to the group
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agenda- 9
15:18:06 [Shervin]
Behnam: Will keep the action item open regarding other languages experts (e.g. Urdu).
15:18:19 [r12a]
ACTION: Shervin to put together a preliminary list of existing literature
15:18:51 [Shervin]
Behnam: Question for Richard regarding publishing the minutes.
15:19:08 [Shervin]
r12a: Will publish the minute.
15:19:14 [Behnam]
scribenick: Behnam
15:19:34 [Behnam]
Shervin: On the email sent to the ML, there's a Dropbox link to see the files
15:19:59 [Shervin]
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u7kn9sy9tuve0s9/ALReq_Refs_List.md?dl=0
15:20:49 [Behnam]
... Not all the items will be referenced first-hand
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... and some are more valuable than others
15:21:39 [Shervin]
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jt161nncj3c6xez/AABCFWUdKCGZTW9gXS9tYSpVa?dl=0
15:21:48 [Behnam]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/20-alreq-minutes.html Behnam
15:22:48 [Behnam]
... We need someone with knowledge of Arabic to help understanding some of these documents
15:23:03 [Behnam]
... some taken from the website of standard organization of Saudi Arabia
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q+
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http://w3c.github.io/typography/#justification
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ack r12a
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ScribeNick: Shervin
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1+
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q+
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http://www.tug.org/tugboat/tb27-2/tb87benatia.pdf
15:24:27 [Shervin]
r12a: Topics provided in the email.
15:24:29 [r12a]
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jep/3336451.0013.105/--justify-just-or-just-justify?rgn=main;view=fulltext
15:24:35 [r12a]
http://www.cle.org.pk/Publication/papers/2004/rule-based-expert-system.pdf
15:25:15 [Behnam]
Shervin: Anyone with a Dropbox account can ask for write permission to add documents directly, or, if not, send Shervin change requests over email
15:25:24 [r12a]
http://rishida.net/blog/?p=1059
15:25:27 [Shervin]
Shervin: Going to put in the topics that Richard sent over
15:25:47 [Behnam]
q?
15:25:54 [Shervin]
r12a: Some of them might not want to go into the list.
15:26:00 [r12a]
the last url just give ideas to consider for alreq, rather than being a reference doc
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q-
15:26:11 [Behnam]
agenda?
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present+ azzeddine
15:26:42 [Behnam]
Topic: Recruiting Status
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agenda- 10
15:26:50 [Shervin]
Zakim, next agendum
15:26:50 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Recruiting Status" taken up [from Shervin]
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q+
15:27:00 [Shervin]
q+
15:27:07 [Behnam]
ack mostafa
15:27:16 [r12a]
zakim, who's here?
15:27:16 [Zakim]
Present: Shervin, mostafa, Behnam, r12a, Najib, azzeddine
15:27:18 [Zakim]
On IRC I see azzeddine, Najib, r12a, Behnam, mostafa, Shervin, Zakim, RRSAgent
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q+
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ack Shervin
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Mostafa: No update from contacts.
15:28:05 [Shervin]
Shervin: Welcoming, Azzeddine.
15:28:24 [Shervin]
Shervin: Question for Mostafa regarding Salar's participation.
15:28:33 [Najib]
q+
15:28:52 [Shervin]
Behnam: Is Salar on the mailing list?
15:29:13 [Shervin]
r12a: He's on the list.
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q?
15:29:24 [Behnam]
ack r12a
15:30:01 [Shervin]
r12a: Sent some information to the University in Oman. Copied people who are going to go there for a meeting re Unicode.
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present+ Azzeddine_on_IRC
15:30:33 [Shervin]
... Craig Cummings showed interest and he will follow the conversation on mailing list.
15:30:42 [r12a]
zakim, who's here?
15:30:42 [Zakim]
Present: Shervin, mostafa, Behnam, r12a, Najib, azzeddine, Azzeddine_on_IRC
15:30:44 [Zakim]
On IRC I see azzeddine, Najib, r12a, Behnam, mostafa, Shervin, Zakim, RRSAgent
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present- azzeddine
15:30:51 [r12a]
zakim, who's here?
15:30:51 [Zakim]
Present: Shervin, mostafa, Behnam, r12a, Najib, Azzeddine_on_IRC
15:30:52 [Zakim]
On IRC I see azzeddine, Najib, r12a, Behnam, mostafa, Shervin, Zakim, RRSAgent
15:31:06 [Behnam]
q?
15:31:32 [Shervin]
Najib: Still looking for right people who are aware of Arabic publishing including Quran.
15:31:44 [Shervin]
... People contacted don't know what's expected from them.
15:31:57 [Shervin]
... May want to contact them regularly as we advance in the document.
15:32:00 [Shervin]
q+
15:32:01 [Behnam]
agenda?
15:32:10 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
15:32:47 [azzeddine]
azzeddine
15:32:51 [azzeddine]
hello all, my apologies
15:33:04 [Behnam]
Shervin: As a follow up to Najib's comment: we can point people to the keywords list and document structure, as well as other Layout Requirement documents published
15:33:21 [Shervin]
Shervin: Re: Recruiting. Would be good to share JLReq and list of keywords with people who might be interested.
15:33:33 [Behnam]
azzeddine, Hi. Are you calling in to the teleconf?
15:33:38 [Behnam]
agenda?
15:33:59 [Shervin]
Zakim, take next agendum
15:33:59 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'take next agendum', Shervin
15:34:09 [Shervin]
Zakim, next agendum
15:34:09 [Zakim]
I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Shervin
15:34:17 [Behnam]
q?
15:34:25 [Najib]
q-
15:34:38 [Shervin]
Zakim, open next agendum
15:34:38 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Status report on glossary work" taken up [from Shervin]
15:35:14 [azzeddine]
on: http://irc.w3.org/
15:35:43 [mostafa]
q+
15:36:02 [Behnam]
azzeddine, we have a WebEx conf call going on here: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2be0a83f0c7797b80b69ce09c45e0419
15:36:14 [Shervin]
Shervin: Have the spreadsheet. Shared with people who showed interest. Mostafa added some terms. How people feel about starting the translation?
15:36:41 [Behnam]
ack mostafa
15:37:10 [Shervin]
mostafa: Suggests to look in the existing literature. Find the words used.
15:37:25 [Shervin]
... If there's one, we're good. If there is more we can decide about it later.
15:37:39 [Shervin]
... this would reduce the amount of work.
15:37:40 [Shervin]
+1
15:37:46 [Najib]
q+
15:37:50 [Behnam]
q?
15:38:11 [azzeddine]
i have thisproblem: Java is not working., on https://mit.webex.com
15:38:19 [Shervin]
Najib: Didn't start conributing yet. Have a set of terms to add. Some already added.
15:38:28 [Shervin]
... Not sure how to fill the glossary with translation.
15:38:40 [r12a]
azzeddine, you can also dial in direct using a phone - would that work?
15:38:41 [Behnam]
azzeddine, i just sent you phone numbers to dial in via direct message
15:38:46 [Shervin]
... We can have many terms which means the same concept.
15:38:54 [Shervin]
... This is the question for the group.
15:38:54 [Shervin]
q+
15:38:56 [Behnam]
ack Najib
15:39:01 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
15:39:34 [Behnam]
Shervin: As mostafa mentioned, there can exist duplicate terms
15:40:04 [Behnam]
... the requirement document will be in English, and we can have all the different terms used in other languages
15:40:39 [mostafa]
q+
15:41:04 [Shervin]
Mostafa: Another aspect of what Najib mentioned; different terms in English for same concept.
15:41:05 [Behnam]
... and the second thing is that we don't need limit the glossary to one translation per term
15:41:42 [Shervin]
... We can use one of them. Others can just appear or be linked to original.
15:41:58 [Behnam]
+1
15:42:13 [Shervin]
q+
15:42:18 [Behnam]
ack mostafa
15:42:19 [r12a]
q+
15:42:25 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
15:42:52 [Behnam]
Shervin: Question for mostafa and Najib: do you have access to the google-docs document?
15:43:37 [Behnam]
... (both confirm) Feel free to work on the document there and I will chip in myself
15:44:52 [mostafa]
q+
15:45:10 [Behnam]
This is the document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSxYKQm_mKroCmxU4fyJ-g70Eo1_mF89yHZg8YNOuzc/edit#gid=0
15:45:30 [r12a]
q-
15:45:31 [Behnam]
Shervin: Added columns for Persian and Arabic translations
15:45:36 [Behnam]
ack mostafa
15:45:56 [Behnam]
Shervin: Let's start with priorities 1 and 2, for now
15:46:16 [Shervin]
Mostafa: Sources should be document. We need to have them documented in a spreadsheet.
15:46:25 [Shervin]
q+
15:46:56 [Shervin]
Behnam: How is different than current state of the doc?
15:47:21 [Shervin]
Mostafa: There is no bibliography. e.g. "Soltani" is not specified.
15:47:24 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
15:48:03 [Behnam]
Shervin: I'm going to add a unique identifier to all the items in our references list
15:48:26 [mostafa]
+1
15:48:47 [Behnam]
... for now, if you see something in the glossary that's not clear, you can add a new tab to the spreadsheet and keep them there temporarily
15:48:51 [Behnam]
q?
15:49:06 [Behnam]
agenda?
15:49:13 [Shervin]
Behnam: Other discussion about glossary work.
15:49:21 [Shervin]
Mostafa: Actions needed to be defined?
15:49:59 [Behnam]
ACTION: Shervin to add unique ids to the references list
15:50:31 [Behnam]
ACTION: Shervin to process links proposed by Richard
15:50:42 [Behnam]
draft minutes
15:51:01 [Behnam]
ACTION: Mostafa and Najib to populate translations in the Glossary
15:51:08 [Behnam]
agenda?
15:51:15 [Behnam]
next agendum
15:51:34 [Shervin]
Zakim, open next agendum
15:51:34 [Zakim]
agendum 4 was just opened, Shervin
15:52:13 [Behnam]
Shervin: We already covered the topic and got the actions, which I'll follow up on
15:52:39 [Behnam]
agenda?
15:52:42 [r12a]
ACTION: Shervin to add list of references to spreadsheet and assign unique identifiers
15:53:39 [Behnam]
Zakim, next agendum
15:53:39 [Zakim]
agendum 5. "Planning for start of drafting" taken up [from Shervin]
15:53:47 [Shervin]
Zakim, open next agendum
15:53:47 [Zakim]
agendum 5 was just opened, Shervin
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q+
15:54:08 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
15:55:18 [Behnam]
Shervin: Najib, in an email, mentioned the use/misuse of typefaces/fonts
15:55:32 [r12a]
q+
15:55:33 [Behnam]
... this is a good example of what we can cover
15:56:01 [Behnam]
... in section "Font and Typography Considerations"
15:56:26 [Behnam]
... and there are other writing styles to also consider, like Nasta'liq
15:56:32 [Shervin]
Najib: Will propose some text for this section. Will email the content.
15:56:42 [Behnam]
ack r12a
15:56:56 [r12a]
for reference, here's a similar section in clreq http://w3c.github.io/clreq/#commonly_used_chinese_typefaces
15:57:22 [Shervin]
r12a: One thought is to avoid the style-guide pitfall. There is a similar section in CLReq. We should be careful not to write recommendations.
15:57:29 [Shervin]
q+
15:57:35 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
15:58:45 [Shervin]
Shervin: Readability issue of font styles something to put in the document?
15:59:13 [Shervin]
r12a: Can be. Styling and justifications, etc. of fonts are different. Styling of Nastaliq is very different.
16:00:09 [Shervin]
Behnam: Wanted to note that although we don't want to recommend, for the sake of describing the problem, we need to get to the description and classes of styles.
16:00:33 [Behnam]
q?
16:00:36 [Behnam]
agenda?
16:00:47 [Shervin]
r12a: The behaviour varies from font style to font style. We rather document rather than providing recommendations.
16:00:48 [Shervin]
q+
16:01:13 [Behnam]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/20-alreq-minutes.html Behnam
16:01:41 [r12a]
another example: fonts in the Ruqah style never use elongation at all (see http://rishida.net/blog/?p=1059)
16:01:51 [Behnam]
RRSAgent, access public
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'access public', Behnam. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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q+
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rrsagent, make log public
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q-
16:02:40 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
16:02:42 [r12a]
+1 to Shervin's comment
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q+
16:02:59 [Najib]
+1 too
16:03:13 [Shervin]
Shervin: Document the usages without favoring one over the other.
16:03:50 [Shervin]
Najib: The intention was to describe styles. And what not to do with styles. Some remarks to make people aware of how to use them.
16:04:01 [Shervin]
... Not to recommend or put rules.
16:04:07 [Shervin]
r12a: Sounds good to me.
16:04:35 [Shervin]
q+
16:04:53 [Shervin]
Behnam: Any other section of the document we want to talk about?
16:05:25 [Shervin]
r12a: I've been hearing this for a long time; for Persian if Nastaliq is not used then Tahoma is a good font.
16:05:37 [mostafa]
q+
16:05:58 [Shervin]
Behnam: Lacking other fonts, Tahoma is a font to use. Specifically for publications, it's prefered to use other fonts.
16:06:11 [Shervin]
q-
16:06:17 [r12a]
q-
16:06:57 [Najib]
+1 to Behnam about Tahoma
16:07:00 [Shervin]
Mostafa: Agrees with Behnam. Tahoma rarely appears in print. More options are available these days and other options are used.
16:07:12 [Behnam]
q?
16:07:13 [Shervin]
... Statistically it doesn't have much appeal to Iranians.
16:07:18 [Shervin]
q+
16:07:20 [Behnam]
ack mostafa
16:07:25 [mostafa]
s/statistically/aesthetically/
16:07:38 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
16:08:39 [Shervin]
q+
16:09:54 [Behnam]
Shervin: Mostafa likes to start working on the Characters section
16:10:14 [Behnam]
... and Najib is willing to start the Styles and Fonts section
16:11:30 [Shervin]
Mostafa: Glossary is not going to be done in a week and it's an ongoing task.
16:11:52 [Behnam]
Zakim, draft minutes
16:11:52 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'draft minutes', Behnam
16:11:58 [Behnam]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:11:58 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/20-alreq-minutes.html Behnam
16:12:21 [Shervin]
Action: Mostafa to start the section on Characters and provide some draft for everyone's feedback and contribution.
16:13:06 [Shervin]
Action: Najib to produce some text for the section "Fonts and Typographical Considerations" based on discussions on the mailing list and IRC.
16:13:47 [r12a]
i'm finding some interesting pages that might inspire Najib: http://islamicart.com/main/calligraphy/styles/, http://www.shutterstock.com/blog/2013/07/a-brief-guide-to-arabic-scripts-and-calligraphy/
16:14:03 [Najib]
Thank Richard
16:14:15 [Behnam]
azzeddine, since we don't have you on the phone, is there anything you like to share with us here?
16:14:18 [Najib]
Gonna look at it.
16:14:37 [Behnam]
azzeddine, here's the minutes draft up to now: http://www.w3.org/2015/10/20-alreq-minutes.html
16:14:46 [Behnam]
RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:14:46 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/20-alreq-minutes.html Behnam
16:15:00 [azzeddine]
no, i follow you
16:15:38 [Shervin]
agenda?
16:15:53 [r12a]
q+
16:16:08 [Shervin]
Behnam: I can also work with drafting of Characters sections.
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q-
16:16:21 [Behnam]
ack r12a
16:16:29 [Najib]
@ Richard. Links looks inspiring
16:16:36 [Shervin]
Mostafa: Will communicate regarding drafting.
16:16:58 [Behnam]
q+
16:17:06 [Shervin]
r12a: One thing that comes to mind; there was discussions on CSS regarding default styles and fallback styles.
16:17:23 [Shervin]
... which fonts one expects to see for serif, sans-serif, etc.
16:17:35 [Shervin]
... These questions might be relevant to Arabic as well./
16:17:53 [Behnam]
ack r12a
16:17:56 [Shervin]
... Without saying "In CSS you should do this..."
16:18:27 [Shervin]
Behnam: Agrees. Topic of classifying writing styles.
16:18:42 [Shervin]
... Default writing styles for different languages might be different.
16:18:47 [Shervin]
q+
16:18:47 [Behnam]
ack Behnam
16:18:54 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
16:20:25 [Najib]
q+
16:20:39 [mostafa]
q+
16:20:52 [Behnam]
ack Najib
16:21:05 [Shervin]
Shervin: Not enough study and literature about the topic of mapping the styles to serif, sans-, etc.
16:21:41 [Shervin]
Najib: We can separate the problem of Arabic style in general and Arabic mixed with others.
16:21:45 [Behnam]
q+
16:21:54 [Behnam]
ack mostafa
16:21:54 [Shervin]
... That's why I'm not mentioning CSS firsthand.\
16:22:30 [Shervin]
Mostafa: Shervin mentioned Naskh as bookish type. There's not much certainty about these.
16:23:03 [Shervin]
... As we don't want to come across as a style guide. We don't have to make statement that there's not enough info.
16:23:04 [Shervin]
q+
16:23:32 [Shervin]
r12a: We can describe general tendency as background information.
16:23:35 [Shervin]
q-
16:23:54 [Shervin]
Mostafa: The amount of content that we go into details not clear to us just yet.
16:24:46 [Shervin]
Behnam: Agrees. There is the lack of enough study on these topics. If we look deeper we might be able to do something that benefits from the existing studies...
16:25:32 [Shervin]
... For the case of CSS (serif, sans-, monospace), because they were there in the beginning of desktop pub
16:26:07 [Shervin]
... The reason for having these classes was different use-cases in the western world.
16:26:16 [Shervin]
... They had connotations in design.
16:26:24 [Shervin]
q+
16:26:43 [Shervin]
... That's why something like computer source code is present in monospace.
16:27:03 [Shervin]
... The root cause of having these definition is the use cases.
16:27:35 [Shervin]
... For Arabic we have Nastaliq for fancy documents (like a graduation certificate)
16:27:42 [azzeddine]
I can't give any opinion Now about these topics. However, when we propose a text, I'll study it with a confirmed arabic calligraph
16:27:50 [Shervin]
... Handwriting style used for some friendly note
16:28:06 [Shervin]
... These use cases are not documented.
16:28:19 [Behnam]
ack Behnam
16:28:22 [Shervin]
... I don't see a big problem in documenting on what we know and agree on.
16:30:36 [mostafa]
+1
16:31:00 [Behnam]
Shervin: I see your point, but I think there's not enough consensus about the style usage
16:31:11 [Behnam]
... specially when it gets to different languages/regions
16:31:44 [Behnam]
... we can show people some usages of styles
16:32:09 [Behnam]
... but we cannot recommend any style explicitly
16:32:21 [Behnam]
... because, for example, a handwriting font may not look good enough
16:32:23 [Behnam]
+1
16:32:27 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
16:33:47 [Shervin]
Behnam: We can agree on what's formal or official.
16:34:08 [Shervin]
I am disconnected from the call.
16:35:22 [Behnam]
Shervin, we're waiting for you on the call
16:35:34 [Shervin]
Just a second.
16:36:03 [r12a]
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16:36:37 [Najib]
q+ on AOB
16:36:59 [Shervin]
Behnam: We can agree with a good probability that an official certificate would be in Nastaliq or a variation.
16:37:02 [Shervin]
q+
16:37:22 [Shervin]
Behnam: It's a thin line between recommending and this is the common practice.
16:37:42 [Shervin]
Behnam: It's a slightly different case from Latin script when it comes to use-cases.
16:37:55 [Shervin]
Behnam: The practices are different between languages.
16:38:14 [Shervin]
Behnam: We can agree that we want to document the styles.
16:38:35 [Shervin]
... After that the use-cases can be talked about based on region and language.
16:38:43 [Shervin]
... We can find resources regarding that.
16:38:45 [Behnam]
q?
16:38:58 [Behnam]
ack Najib
16:38:58 [Zakim]
Najib, you wanted to comment on AOB
16:39:27 [Behnam]
ack Shervin
16:41:01 [r12a]
we can say "Nastaliq tends to be used for ..."
16:41:13 [Shervin]
Najib: Question on Unicode conference remote participation?
16:41:39 [Shervin]
Behnam: I guess not. If people are interested in some talks, then we can setup some video conferencing.
16:42:22 [Shervin]
Behnam: We can set up a video conf for the lightening talk.
16:42:27 [Behnam]
https://github.com/w3c/alreq
16:42:43 [r12a]
ACTION: Richard to ensure that people are notified about github issues
16:42:46 [Shervin]
Najib: Question about getting notification when someone files a Github issue.
16:42:57 [Shervin]
Behnam: You need to watch the repository.
16:43:36 [Shervin]
Behnam: Any other topics before we close the call?
16:45:53 [Najib]
Najib has left #alreq
16:45:54 [Behnam]
Thanks everyone!
16:46:06 [mostafa]
Thank you.
16:46:08 [mostafa]
Bye.
16:46:13 [Behnam]
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