12:53:21 RRSAgent has joined #wot-di 12:53:21 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/10/08-wot-di-irc 12:53:23 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:53:23 Zakim has joined #wot-di 12:53:25 Zakim, this will be 12:53:25 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 12:53:26 Meeting: Web of Things Interest Group Teleconference 12:53:26 Date: 08 October 2015 12:53:38 Present+ Soumya 12:53:46 Chair: Soumya 13:00:08 arne has joined #wot-di 13:01:47 dape has joined #wot-di 13:03:10 present+ Yingying 13:04:02 present+ arne, dape 13:08:00 scribenick arne 13:08:21 Soumya presents today's agenda 13:08:34 any coments on TF-DI report? 13:08:48 Louay has joined #wot-di 13:09:15 none 13:09:23 TPAC planning: 13:09:39 Which breakout sessions? 13:09:48 1. provisioning 13:09:58 2. evaluation of tech landscape 13:10:04 3. security 13:10:51 Recap of discovery interaction patterns (Soumya goes through the according GitHub page) 13:11:28 Soumya show the new Wiki page on evaluation criteria: 13:11:46 https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Tech_Landscape_Evaluation 13:12:40 Soumya looks at evaluation of "Finding things around me" 13:15:06 Soumya goes through the different evaluation criteria for category 1 13:17:01 Louay comments: there is difference between UriBeacon and iBeacon 13:17:15 UriBeacon can advertise URL 13:17:31 iBeacon can only advertise UUID 13:18:49 Soumya: we will update the Wiki table 13:22:44 arne's comment: security and privacy is not yet included as evaluation criterium 13:22:52 arne: shall we include it or not? 13:24:06 arne's comment: we need more detailed description of evaluation criteria 13:25:02 Soumya agrees 13:25:46 Soumya moves on to evaluation of category 2 (Finding things on my network) 13:27:47 Soumya: 'Sleeping Time Support' might not be relevant as a criterium 13:28:23 arne: yes could be right... sleeping time support is dependent on implementation on top of protocol 13:28:44 Soumya: 'Range' is also irrelevant in this category 13:31:22 Soumya: are there volunteers to describe those technologies? 13:31:40 Louay agrees to describe SSDP 13:32:26 Ari: what do you mean with 'richness of query' and how do you answer this for mDNS? 13:33:15 Ari: you could have a richer query mechanism on top of mDNS 13:34:19 Ari: what do you mean with "manual entry of keywords"? 13:36:17 Louay: mDNS cannot do it on it's own 13:37:35 Louay: DNS-SD might help to allow for such search keywords 13:38:19 Soumya moves on to the next category 13:39:00 Category 2 "Searching in Directories" 13:41:21 Soumya: Core RD does support Higher Layer Discovery 13:42:23 Arne + Ari: unsure about semantics of "higher layer discovery" and "richness of results" 13:43:25 Soumya: is there anyone familar with the XMPP IoT Discovery? 13:46:56 Soumya moves on to Category 4 "Searching across Peers" 13:47:23 Soumya moves on to Category 5 "Accessing Thing Metadata" 13:49:10 Arne: is bootstrapping relevant for Category 5? 13:49:23 Soumya: agrees, might not be relevant here 13:50:59 Soumya suggests to consider only relevant evaluation criteria for each category 13:51:06 Ari: yes that's good 13:51:32 Soumya starts discussion on "Provisioning" 13:52:55 Soumya introduces Eclipse project HawkBit 13:53:37 project concerned with provisioning part of different devices 13:54:44 Soumya goes through website: https://projects.eclipse.org/proposals/hawkbit 13:55:42 Soumya will contact the project leads 13:56:00 and ask for presentation of HawkBit 13:57:07 Soumya starts discussion on "Wot WG work items" 13:57:45 1.) Uniform and Technology Independent Discovery Mechanism 14:00:35 Joerg: when you read the description, it is not clear why you call it "Uniform and Technology Independent Discovery Mechanism" 14:01:15 Joerg: it should be more about 'how you utilize existing technologies' 14:02:10 Joerg: should be an interface of how to interact with existing discovery technologies 14:02:26 2.) WoT Security and Security-Enabling APIs 14:03:03 sorry: 2.) Authorization for Things Discovery 14:05:13 Joerg: in the previous case we are confident that we have technology available... in this case it may be a risk whether we are actually able to use something that has solved this issue 14:06:20 Soumya: AOB ? 14:07:14 Ari: what is the difference between "higher layer discovery" and "richness of query"? 14:11:10 Soumya: higher layer is explicit query where richness of query the context is explicitly provided .... he will provide more details on this in written form... 14:18:21 Ari: suggests to add a link to the specification in the table 14:19:09 Soumya closes the meeting. 14:19:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:19:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/08-wot-di-minutes.html Soumya 15:22:58 Zakim has left #wot-di