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14:48:09 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
14:48:09 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
14:48:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
14:48:10 <trackbot> Date: 01 September 2015
14:48:15 <Kenny> zakim, agenda?
14:48:15 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
14:48:49 <Kenny> agenda+ Quickref update [Eric]
14:48:57 <Kenny> zakim, agenda?
14:48:57 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:48:58 <Zakim> 1. Quickref update [from Eric via Kenny]
14:49:14 <Kenny> agenda+ Re-approval of publication (due to minor change) - survey item1 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept1st2015/#wbsq2
14:49:33 <Kenny> agenda+ "Future link" techniques - survey item2 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept1st2015/#wbsq3
14:49:51 <Kenny> agenda+ Working group Decision policy
14:50:11 <Kenny> agenda+ Github issues and work progress - survey item3,4,5,6 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept1st2015/
14:51:20 <Kenny> regrets: Bailey_Bruce, Mike_Elledge
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14:53:10 <Joshue> zakim, agenda?
14:53:10 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
14:53:11 <Zakim> 1. Quickref update [from Eric via Kenny]
14:53:11 <Zakim> 2. Re-approval of publication (due to minor change) - survey item1 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept1st2015/#wbsq2 [from Kenny]
14:53:11 <Zakim> 3. "Future link" techniques - survey item2 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept1st2015/#wbsq3 [from Kenny]
14:53:12 <Zakim> 4. Working group Decision policy [from Kenny]
14:53:12 <Zakim> 5. Github issues and work progress - survey item3,4,5,6 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept1st2015/ [from Kenny]
14:59:00 <AWK> chair: Joshue
15:00:41 <Joshue> Regrets: Wayne, Bruce, Mike, Moe
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15:02:23 <yatil> present+ EricE
15:02:35 <Kathy> Kathy has joined #wai-wcag
15:02:43 <laura> present+ Laura
15:03:24 <AWK> present+ AWK
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15:03:49 <yatil> present+ Srinivasu_Chakravarthula
15:03:59 <Kathy> present+ Kathy
15:04:14 <jon_avila> present+jon_avila
15:04:21 <Kenny> present+ kenny
15:04:39 <adam_solomon> present+ adam_solomon
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15:06:18 <laura> scribe: Laura
15:06:26 <laura> Zakim, next item
15:06:26 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Quickref update" taken up [from Eric]
15:06:30 <David> Present+ David_MacDonald
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15:08:11 <yatil>  http://w3c.github.io/wai-wcag-quickref/
15:08:48 <laura> Eric: Polishing and doing stuff under the hood.
15:09:28 <laura> Eric: Next steps is to define text in filter.
15:10:07 <laura> Eric: Will draft wiki page and invite people to participate.
15:10:56 <Joshue> q?
15:11:06 <laura> Eric: Thinking about welcome text and help page.
15:11:24 <yatil> http://github.com/w3c/wai-wcag-quickref/issues/
15:11:43 <laura> Eric: It iscoming along.
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15:12:07 <laura> JOC:  Thanks Eric.
15:12:16 <Ryladog> Present+Katie Haritos-Shea
15:12:17 <laura> Zakim, next item
15:12:17 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Re-approval of publication (due to minor change) - survey item1 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept1st2015/#wbsq2" taken up [from Kenny]
15:12:29 <yatil> s/It iscoming along./ It is coming along./
15:12:43 <yatil> s/Present+Katie Haritos-Shea/Present+ Katie_Haritos-Shea/
15:13:26 <Joshue> LC: Just a minor typo in some br elements
15:13:58 <laura> Laura: Minor typo: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2015/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20150714/media-equiv-captions.html#media-equiv-captions-examples-head
15:14:46 <laura> AWK: easy to fix.
15:15:17 <MichaelC> present+ MichaelC
15:16:01 <laura> MichaelC: will take a look
15:17:05 <laura> RESOLUTION: WG Accepted of re-publication.
15:17:10 <laura> Zakim, next item
15:17:10 <Zakim> agendum 3. ""Future link" techniques - survey item2 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept1st2015/#wbsq3" taken up [from Kenny]
15:17:30 <Joshue> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2015/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20150714/
15:17:57 <laura> JOC: Future links that we don’t have yet. Proposal to remove.
15:18:21 <David> q+
15:18:44 <Joshue> ack dav
15:19:14 <laura> David: Are they in the tech docs?
15:19:24 <Joshue> zakim, who is noisy?
15:19:24 <Zakim> I am sorry, Joshue; I don't have the necessary resources to track talkers right now
15:19:45 <laura> JOC: It is in the understanding doc
15:20:29 <laura> Jon: Confusing but could be helpful.
15:20:58 <laura> JOC: Okay to move?
15:21:06 <AWK> q+
15:21:07 <laura> Jon: okay.
15:21:15 <Joshue> ack awk
15:22:10 <laura> AWK: We could link to a new doc with the info.
15:22:42 <laura> Jon: maybe rephrrase?
15:23:01 <Joshue> s/rephrrase?/rephrase?
15:24:19 <AWK> For people to see what this is about, take a look at http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/content-structure-separation-programmatic.html and see the "additional techniques (advisory) for 1.3.1" section for two "future links"
15:25:38 <laura> JOC: Should  we create a separate page?
15:25:54 <Ryladog> q+
15:25:58 <Joshue> q?
15:26:24 <laura> AWK: Whatever makes the most sense.
15:27:26 <Joshue> ack ryla
15:27:30 <laura> MichaelC: Has started on it. Has spent a few hours.
15:27:44 <MichaelC> q+ to say categorizing on wiki orthagonal to what we do with formal publicaiton
15:28:09 <Joshue> ack mich
15:28:09 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say categorizing on wiki orthagonal to what we do with formal publicaiton
15:28:52 <laura> MichaelC: My work is orthagonal to what we do with formal publicaiton
15:30:07 <laura> RESOLUTION: Leave open. MichaelC will continue with work.
15:30:15 <laura> Zakim, next item
15:30:15 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Working group Decision policy" taken up [from Kenny]
15:30:30 <laura> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/decision-policy
15:31:54 <laura> AWK: Is still on the radar an want to come to a final proposal.
15:32:31 <laura> JOC: We will get back to this soon.
15:32:44 <laura> Zakim, next item
15:32:44 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Github issues and work progress - survey item3,4,5,6 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/Sept1st2015/" taken up [from Kenny]
15:33:01 <Joshue>  [Github] SCR37 appears to duplicate SCR26? #108
15:33:09 <Joshue> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/108
15:33:58 <laura> JOC: Suggestion to merge. Veering to no. Need to be reviewed.
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15:37:05 <laura> Jon: Only mapped to focus order. Is reading order a failure? Maybe in some cases.
15:37:18 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
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15:40:21 <laura> AWK: We are not entirely sure if we should combine or not. Either way may work.
15:40:41 <Joshue> Github] if auto-redirect despite WCAG but UA blocks, tell user where to go #102
15:42:54 <laura> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/102
15:43:11 <jamesn> q+
15:44:13 <laura> katie: When you land on a new page and focus goes to an advertisment.
15:44:49 <laura> David: Can’t really map it to a failure.
15:45:07 <Joshue> ack james
15:45:14 <laura> katie: seems like a clear failure
15:45:43 <laura> James: we are talking about browser redirects.
15:46:33 <laura> James: Don’t see how this is an accessibility issue.
15:47:43 <laura> James: It is a bug for everyone.
15:48:05 <laura> JOC: leave it open.
15:48:33 <laura> RESOLUTION: Leave open. More info needed.
15:49:10 <Joshue> [Github]question on [Low Vis] Failure of Success Criterion 1.4.3 and 1.4.6 due to using background color[...]
15:49:28 <Joshue> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/95
15:50:10 <Joshue> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/NOTE-WCAG20-TECHS-20150226/G18
15:50:20 <laura> JOC: Relates to G18
15:50:38 <Joshue> q?
15:51:39 <Ryladog> q+
15:51:43 <jon_avila> q+
15:52:15 <Kathy> q+
15:52:20 <Joshue> ack ryla
15:52:32 <jamesn> q+
15:53:16 <laura> Katie: Depends on if background is moving. Squint test. Other tests.
15:53:28 <Joshue> ack jon
15:54:30 <laura> Jon: takes lowest contrast and uses that. Android has a hallo.
15:54:35 <jamesn> hmmmm.... I wonder if we could do that with a CSS override (the double halo)....
15:55:06 <Joshue> ack james
15:55:08 <jon_avila> q-
15:55:08 <laura> Jon: Have to test responsive in different modes.
15:55:20 <Joshue> ack kathy
15:55:51 <laura> kathy: Greg Kause has  good tool.
15:56:08 <Joshue> q?
15:56:14 <jon_avila> http://accessibility.oit.ncsu.edu/blog/2013/10/29/color-contrast-analyzer-for-chrome-text-in-images-gradients-pdfs-and-more/
15:56:52 <laura> James: Greg Kaus’ tool is still manual.
15:57:54 <laura> James: The does a pixel test.
15:58:59 <laura> s/Hallo/ Halo/
15:59:03 <Joshue> q?
15:59:52 <laura> RESOLUTION: Leave open. Discuss with Wayne.
16:00:08 <Kathy> http://accessibility.oit.ncsu.edu/tools/color-contrast-chrome/
16:00:55 <Joshue> [Github] List of sufficient techniques for situation B seems to be not complete #103
16:01:11 <Joshue> https://github.com/w3c/wcag/issues/103
16:05:18 <laura> AWK: Not completely empty.
16:05:31 <Joshue> q?
16:05:50 <laura> JOC: Not clear what should go in there.
16:07:28 <laura> AWK: Surprised if all of the ARIA techniques fit.
16:08:17 <laura> JAMES: Several ARIA techniques are not relevant.
16:11:07 <laura> RESOLUTION: Leave open. Discuss with Wayne further.
16:11:17 <Joshue> q?
16:11:18 <David> I've extracted out all the advisory techniques in WCAG and posted them here. http://davidmacd.com/blog/Advisory-Techniques-WCAG.html about 238 future techniques not written up.
16:14:21 <laura> My mics not working . It is the last item
16:14:33 <laura> Yes
16:14:57 <jamesn> regrets for next 2 weeks
16:16:22 <laura> rrsagent, make minutes
16:16:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/09/01-wai-wcag-minutes.html laura
16:17:17 <laura> trackbot, end meeting
16:17:17 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:17:17 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been EricE, Laura, AWK, Srinivasu_Chakravarthula, Kathy, jon_avila, kenny, adam_solomon, David_MacDonald, Katie, Haritos-Shea, MichaelC
16:17:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:17:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/09/01-wai-wcag-minutes.html trackbot
16:17:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:17:26 <RRSAgent> I see no action items