IRC log of ua on 2015-08-27
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/08/27-ua-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be WAI_UAWG
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- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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- Meeting: User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 27 August 2015
- 16:29:50 [allanj]
- rrsagent, set logs public
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/27-ua-minutes.html allanj
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- chair: jim
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- scribe: allanj
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- Agenda+ candidate implementations/extensions for each SC - narrow scope
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- agenda?
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- http://w3c.github.io/UAAG-Implementations/Implementations-by-feature
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- topic: 1.8.7 Customize Viewport Highlighting
- 17:23:42 [allanj]
- difficult to jump between frames, very little indication of a viewport being focused.
- 17:25:58 [allanj]
- http://www.yourhtmlsource.com/examples/frameset1.html
- 17:29:02 [allanj]
- only firefox highlight frames. no one highlights iframes, no one can change highlighting or border for viewport highlighting.
- 17:30:40 [allanj]
- f6 moves between address bar and main viewport in all.
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- AT RISK
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- topic: 1.8.8 Allow Viewport Resize:
- 17:33:31 [allanj]
- perhaps Stylish can override resize(attrib) in css?
- 17:34:17 [Greg]
- A textarea with an author-specified height and width is still resizable in Firefox:
- 17:34:18 [Greg]
- <textarea style="width: 178px; height: 108px;" id="text_area" name="textarea" rows="5" cols="20"></textarea>
- 17:35:47 [allanj]
- html test page https://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www/testel.html
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- NO keyboard control for resizing.
- 17:38:36 [allanj]
- cannot resize viewports with speech. very difficult
- 17:39:02 [allanj]
- menu commands for windows, no commands for internal elements
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- speech - excel has keyboard commands to resize columns and rows.
- 17:43:43 [allanj]
- html - textarea and video element can change with mouse but not keyboard (frames)
- 17:44:16 [allanj]
- for iframes - stylish may work to add resize(attrib) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8117761/how-can-i-make-an-iframe-resizable
- 17:44:39 [allanj]
- but...still no keyboard control.
- 17:45:24 [allanj]
- @@ this is a failure of 2.1.1
- 17:50:44 [allanj]
- summary: 1.8.8 is doable for textarea, video players, frames, and iframes with the mouse. may need the addition of Stylish to add resizability. FF, Safari, Chrome. none have functionality from the keyboard. IE8 does not resize textarea.
- 17:51:05 [allanj]
- topic: 1.8.9 Provide Viewport History
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- http://www.tsbvi.edu/2015-08-25-19-42-57/request-infant?view=form
- 17:53:31 [allanj]
- ff maintains point of regard, not maintain form content (using forward and back button)
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- safari does not restore anything. v8.0.7
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- ie maintains point of regard and form content
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- ff maintains point of regard and form content
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- chrome maintains point of regard and form content but not input focus
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- s/ff maintains point of regard and form content/ff maintains point of regard and form content and input focus
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- s/ie maintains point of regard and form content/ie maintains point of regard and form content and input focus
- 18:02:14 [allanj]
- change - safari maintains point of regard and form content and input focus
- 18:02:38 [allanj]
- all tested on https://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/www/testel.html (plain and simple html)
- 18:04:15 [allanj]
- ff is the only browser to maintain selection highlighting
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- topic: 1.8.10 Allow Top-Level Viewport Open on Request:
- 18:08:24 [allanj]
- all browsers have a configuration setting for blocking popup window
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- topic: 1.8.11 Allow Top-Level Viewport Focus Control:
- 18:13:32 [allanj]
- ff Open new windows in a new tab instead and When I open a link in a new tab, switch to it immediately
- 18:17:21 [allanj]
- safari, IE, chrome, no focus control.
- 18:17:45 [allanj]
- need to create a test page to popup a window.
- 18:18:28 [allanj]
- http://rip747.github.io/popupwindow/
- 18:22:16 [allanj]
- http://www.textfixer.com/html/javascript-pop-up-window.php
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- topic: 1.8.12 Allow Same User Interface:
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- no browser does this. there are no extensions
- 18:35:00 [allanj]
- there is some issues. greg with ff on http://rip747.github.io/popupwindow/ all open in a new tab with same interface. jim cannot make that happen in his FF.
- 18:35:09 [allanj]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/27-ua-minutes.html allanj
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- present: kim, greg, jim
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- present: kim, greg, jim
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/27-ua-minutes.html allanj