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15:27:31 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogT
15:27:31 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Lisa_Seeman
15:30:09 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: Neil, Tony
15:34:38 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
15:34:39 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  review actions, and timelines and updates ( next weeks call -change, json)
15:34:41 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Issue papers - GA, security
15:34:42 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Techniques -  GA, will anyone review with me
15:34:44 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Next ftf ideas (TPAC and Katie suggestion)agenda+  Other issue papers
15:34:46 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ be done
15:48:49 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: Neil, Tony, jannina
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16:01:58 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: JohnRochford
16:02:18 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
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16:03:13 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#What_are_we_working_on_now.3F
16:03:14 <JohnRochford> LS: I'm worried about our timelines.
16:03:30 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
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16:06:34 <ayelet_seeman> Having trouble connecting...
16:07:36 <JohnRochford> John: In the techniques and gap analysis papers, should we include the text of issue papers, or links to the relevant text of the issue papers?
16:09:16 <JohnRochford> EA: I'm concerned about overlap of comments in the tech and GA papers.
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16:15:03 <ayelet_seeman> Hi :)
16:15:23 <JohnRochford> LS: The gaps in WCAG is an area to consider, but there are others too, such as personalization.
16:17:15 <Lisa_Seeman> action: John Rochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility
16:17:15 <trackbot> 'John' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, JohnRochford).
16:17:22 <Lisa_Seeman> action: JohnRochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility
16:17:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-131 - Look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility [on John Rochford - due 2015-08-31].
16:17:22 <EA> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:17:46 <Lisa_Seeman> action: JohnRochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on modiality paper
16:17:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-132 - Look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on modiality paper [on John Rochford - due 2015-08-31].
16:19:05 <richardschwerdtfeger> q+
16:19:42 <Lisa_Seeman> ack r
16:21:03 <JohnRochford> Rich: How far do you want to go with a gap analysis? Should we go into author tools, authentication, etc.?
16:21:22 <JohnRochford> LS: We should at least mention each.
16:22:05 <JohnRochford> RS: Recommends we have separate docs for WCAG and for personalization, etc.
16:23:22 <JohnRochford> LS: At some point, yes, we should have separate docs.
16:23:55 <JohnRochford> LS: We don't want lots of recommendations in multiple docs.
16:25:46 <JohnRochford> DD: Has been looking at VoiceXML in general, and seeing what applies to people with CD.
16:26:07 <JohnRochford> DD: Noticed authentication issues.
16:27:24 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html
16:28:32 <JohnRochford> DD: We are really talking about voice systems, of which Voice XML is a subset.
16:29:15 <Lisa_Seeman> https://w3c.github.io/coga/techniques/index.html
16:29:55 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:32:28 <JohnRochford> MP: I reorganized the personalization content.
16:33:27 <Lisa_Seeman> action: MikeP to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on personlisatrion stuff
16:33:27 <trackbot> Error finding 'MikeP'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:34:18 <JohnRochford> Scribe note: MP's comment was in response to a question from Lisa.
16:35:52 <JohnRochford> MP: Some techniques should be restricted to certain groups.
16:37:39 <Lisa_Seeman> action: MikePluke to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on personlisatrion stuff
16:37:39 <trackbot> Error finding 'MikePluke'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:38:32 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
16:38:55 <JohnRochford> action: Mike_Pluke to look for things missing from techniques and gap analysis papers based on personlisatrion stuff
16:38:55 <trackbot> Error finding 'Mike_Pluke'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:39:24 <Lisa_Seeman> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Aug/0065.html
16:41:39 <Lisa_Seeman> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Aug/0047.html
16:43:06 <JohnRochford> action: Mike_Pluke to look for things missing from techniques and gap analysis papers based on personlisation stuff
16:43:06 <trackbot> Error finding 'Mike_Pluke'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:49:40 <Tony> apologies I must drop off
16:51:41 <Lisa_Seeman> https://w3c.github.io/coga/techniques/index.html
16:54:37 <JohnRochford> LS: Suggestion - add statement about not putting up cognitive barriers
16:55:12 <JohnRochford> scribe correction: statements, not statement
16:59:21 <JohnRochford> LS: Decision - To techniques and gap analysis papers, add links to issue papers.
17:00:41 <Lisa_Seeman> Do not require cognitive abilities to access content that are avoidable
17:01:32 <JohnRochford> EA & MP: Techniques make assumptions about cognitive abilities and disabilities.
17:01:58 <Lisa_Seeman> Do not require cognitive abilities to access content beyond what is needed to use the contentthat are avoidable
17:02:08 <ddahl> +1
17:02:10 <Lisa_Seeman> Do not require cognitive abilities to access content beyond what is needed to use the content
17:02:39 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:03:11 <ayelet_seeman> +1 to the last suggestion
17:03:34 <ayelet_seeman> on second though not :)
17:03:59 <Lisa_Seeman> Do not require cognitive abilities that are avoidable
17:04:16 <Lisa_Seeman> Do not require cognitive abilities when are avoidable
17:04:19 <Lisa_Seeman> Do not require cognitive abilities when avoidable
17:07:50 <ddahl> part
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17:19:01 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, make logs public
17:19:17 <Lisa_Seeman>   rrsagent, create minutes
17:19:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
17:21:12 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, please part
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17:21:23 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, please part
17:21:23 <RRSAgent> I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-actions.rdf :
17:21:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: John Rochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility [1]
17:21:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-17-15
17:21:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JohnRochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility [2]
17:21:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-17-22
17:21:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JohnRochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on modiality paper [3]
17:21:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-17-46
17:21:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: MikeP to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on personlisatrion stuff [4]
17:21:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-33-27
17:21:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: MikePluke to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on personlisatrion stuff [5]
17:21:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-37-39
17:21:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mike_Pluke to look for things missing from techniques and gap analysis papers based on personlisatrion stuff [6]
17:21:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-38-55
17:21:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mike_Pluke to look for things missing from techniques and gap analysis papers based on personlisation stuff [7]
17:21:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-43-06