IRC log of coga on 2015-08-24
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc
- 15:27:31 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, this will be WAI_CogT
- 15:27:31 [Zakim]
- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Lisa_Seeman
- 15:30:09 [Lisa_Seeman]
- regrets: Neil, Tony
- 15:34:38 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda: this
- 15:34:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ review actions, and timelines and updates ( next weeks call -change, json)
- 15:34:41 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ Issue papers - GA, security
- 15:34:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
- agenda+ Techniques - GA, will anyone review with me
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- agenda+ Next ftf ideas (TPAC and Katie suggestion)agenda+ Other issue papers
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- agenda+ be done
- 15:48:49 [Lisa_Seeman]
- regrets: Neil, Tony, jannina
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- 16:01:58 [Lisa_Seeman]
- scribe: JohnRochford
- 16:02:18 [Lisa_Seeman]
- next item
- 16:02:27 [richardschwerdtfeger]
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- 16:03:13 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#What_are_we_working_on_now.3F
- 16:03:14 [JohnRochford]
- LS: I'm worried about our timelines.
- 16:03:30 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
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- 16:06:34 [ayelet_seeman]
- Having trouble connecting...
- 16:07:36 [JohnRochford]
- John: In the techniques and gap analysis papers, should we include the text of issue papers, or links to the relevant text of the issue papers?
- 16:09:16 [JohnRochford]
- EA: I'm concerned about overlap of comments in the tech and GA papers.
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- 16:15:03 [ayelet_seeman]
- Hi :)
- 16:15:23 [JohnRochford]
- LS: The gaps in WCAG is an area to consider, but there are others too, such as personalization.
- 16:17:15 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: John Rochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility
- 16:17:15 [trackbot]
- 'John' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, JohnRochford).
- 16:17:22 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: JohnRochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility
- 16:17:22 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-131 - Look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility [on John Rochford - due 2015-08-31].
- 16:17:22 [EA]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:17:46 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: JohnRochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on modiality paper
- 16:17:46 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-132 - Look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on modiality paper [on John Rochford - due 2015-08-31].
- 16:19:05 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- q+
- 16:19:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
- ack r
- 16:21:03 [JohnRochford]
- Rich: How far do you want to go with a gap analysis? Should we go into author tools, authentication, etc.?
- 16:21:22 [JohnRochford]
- LS: We should at least mention each.
- 16:22:05 [JohnRochford]
- RS: Recommends we have separate docs for WCAG and for personalization, etc.
- 16:23:22 [JohnRochford]
- LS: At some point, yes, we should have separate docs.
- 16:23:55 [JohnRochford]
- LS: We don't want lots of recommendations in multiple docs.
- 16:25:46 [JohnRochford]
- DD: Has been looking at VoiceXML in general, and seeing what applies to people with CD.
- 16:26:07 [JohnRochford]
- DD: Noticed authentication issues.
- 16:27:24 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/issue-papers/privacy-security.html
- 16:28:32 [JohnRochford]
- DD: We are really talking about voice systems, of which Voice XML is a subset.
- 16:29:15 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://w3c.github.io/coga/techniques/index.html
- 16:29:55 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
- 16:32:28 [JohnRochford]
- MP: I reorganized the personalization content.
- 16:33:27 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: MikeP to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on personlisatrion stuff
- 16:33:27 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'MikeP'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
- 16:34:18 [JohnRochford]
- Scribe note: MP's comment was in response to a question from Lisa.
- 16:35:52 [JohnRochford]
- MP: Some techniques should be restricted to certain groups.
- 16:37:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- action: MikePluke to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on personlisatrion stuff
- 16:37:39 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'MikePluke'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
- 16:38:32 [Lisa_Seeman]
- next item
- 16:38:55 [JohnRochford]
- action: Mike_Pluke to look for things missing from techniques and gap analysis papers based on personlisatrion stuff
- 16:38:55 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'Mike_Pluke'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
- 16:39:24 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Aug/0065.html
- 16:41:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2015Aug/0047.html
- 16:43:06 [JohnRochford]
- action: Mike_Pluke to look for things missing from techniques and gap analysis papers based on personlisation stuff
- 16:43:06 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'Mike_Pluke'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
- 16:49:40 [Tony]
- apologies I must drop off
- 16:51:41 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://w3c.github.io/coga/techniques/index.html
- 16:54:37 [JohnRochford]
- LS: Suggestion - add statement about not putting up cognitive barriers
- 16:55:12 [JohnRochford]
- scribe correction: statements, not statement
- 16:59:21 [JohnRochford]
- LS: Decision - To techniques and gap analysis papers, add links to issue papers.
- 17:00:41 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Do not require cognitive abilities to access content that are avoidable
- 17:01:32 [JohnRochford]
- EA & MP: Techniques make assumptions about cognitive abilities and disabilities.
- 17:01:58 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Do not require cognitive abilities to access content beyond what is needed to use the contentthat are avoidable
- 17:02:08 [ddahl]
- +1
- 17:02:10 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Do not require cognitive abilities to access content beyond what is needed to use the content
- 17:02:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 17:03:11 [ayelet_seeman]
- +1 to the last suggestion
- 17:03:34 [ayelet_seeman]
- on second though not :)
- 17:03:59 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Do not require cognitive abilities that are avoidable
- 17:04:16 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Do not require cognitive abilities when are avoidable
- 17:04:19 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Do not require cognitive abilities when avoidable
- 17:07:50 [ddahl]
- part
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- 17:19:01 [Lisa_Seeman]
- rrsagent, make logs public
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- rrsagent, create minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
- 17:21:12 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, please part
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- rrsagent, please part
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- I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: John Rochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-17-15
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- ACTION: JohnRochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on mobility [2]
- 17:21:23 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-17-22
- 17:21:23 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: JohnRochford to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on the issue paper on modiality paper [3]
- 17:21:23 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-17-46
- 17:21:23 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: MikeP to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on personlisatrion stuff [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-33-27
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- ACTION: MikePluke to look for things missing from techneues and gapanlisis paper based on personlisatrion stuff [5]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-37-39
- 17:21:23 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mike_Pluke to look for things missing from techniques and gap analysis papers based on personlisatrion stuff [6]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-38-55
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- ACTION: Mike_Pluke to look for things missing from techniques and gap analysis papers based on personlisation stuff [7]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/24-coga-irc#T16-43-06