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15:18:12 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
15:18:12 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Lisa_Seeman
15:19:24 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets:Jamie Knight , mary jo
15:21:26 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda: this
15:21:28 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  review of agenda, new items, update about github
15:21:30 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  review of actions
15:21:31 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  Next FTF
15:21:33 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  user research comments.
15:21:34 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ comments from Judy, citations , glossary and our main page
15:21:36 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  techniques
15:21:37 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  new issue papers, review of new papers and comments
15:21:39 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ be done
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15:56:56 <JohnRochford> Called Zakim bridge X 3. No connection, no ringing, nothing.
16:00:26 <JohnRochford> Are we having a call today?
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16:01:53 <JohnRochford> Ayelet & Tony: Are you on the call?
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16:03:42 <JohnRochford> Mike! Can you see this message?
16:04:02 <Tony_Doran> Trying - are we using Zakim again or ??
16:04:10 <Mike_Pluke> Yes - can't find the link for the webex
16:04:13 <Lisa_Seeman> anyone joining us on webex
16:04:18 <Lisa_Seeman> ahh
16:04:29 <JohnRochford> Lisa, see my previous messages. I can't get on Webex.
16:04:30 <Lisa_Seeman> my error
16:04:34 <ayelet_seeman> Ihttps://mit.webex.com/mw0401lsp13/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=mit&service=1&main_url=%2Fmc0901lsp13%2Fmeetingcenter%2Fdefault.do%3Fsiteurl%3Dmit%26main_url%3D%252Fmc0901lsp13%252Fmeetingcenter%252Fmeetingend%252Flandingpage.do%253Fsiteurl%253Dmit%2526ishost%253Dfalse%2526NM%253Dayelet_seeman%2526AD%253Dayelet.projects1%2540gmail.com%2526STD%253D1&rnd=1809151839
16:04:35 <Lisa_Seeman> i am very fuzzy today
16:04:41 <Lisa_Seeman> (was sick yesterday
16:04:44 <Lisa_Seeman> webex
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16:05:47 <JohnRochford> Ayelet, that URL brought me to a blank Webex page.
16:06:08 <Mike_Pluke> Me too
16:06:09 <ayelet_seeman> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=mb10f72a1b8d5c8972343dc644e3c930c
16:06:27 <Tony_Doran> On callnow :)
16:06:33 <ayelet_seeman> this is the right link, sorry
16:07:27 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: ayelet_seeman
16:07:46 <JohnRochford> Installing WebEx now, though I don't know why.
16:08:01 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
16:08:28 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
16:09:26 <ayelet_seeman> LS: we are late with the schedule - we are overdue with the gap analysis and road map
16:09:32 <janina> present+ janina
16:09:40 <JohnRochford> I am now connected to call via WebEx. Thank you, Ayelet.
16:09:53 <ayelet_seeman> LS: however we don't want to give in something half baked
16:11:07 <ayelet_seeman> JR: did the work to revise the security issue paper. unsure about how to add it to the gap analysis.
16:11:26 <Mike_Pluke> Can't hear anything unfortunately - initially I was on system level audio mute - but now I've unmuted still can't hear anything exceptt the Webex audio test.
16:12:00 <Mike_Pluke> At last I can hear!!!
16:12:39 <ayelet_seeman> LS: identify what are the gaps between what needs to exist in order to support accessibility (or in this case the security) for COGA users, and what exists now
16:13:28 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis
16:13:56 <ayelet_seeman> ... you also want to check under what category it should go
16:14:12 <ayelet_seeman> * you're welcome
16:14:22 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html
16:15:49 <ayelet_seeman> LS: feel free to ping me when looking for links, etc.
16:17:23 <ayelet_seeman> MP: reviewed the personalisation issue paper. felt it was slightly scattered.
16:20:34 <ayelet_seeman> ... suggests putting all the introductory parts in one introduction, which should also include some content from the ineroperability issue paper.
16:20:48 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:23:17 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
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16:23:52 <ayelet_seeman> LS: which name is preferred - 'in page semantics', 'aria for coga', or 'aria proposal'?
16:24:17 <ayelet_seeman> ... "or 'aria for personalisation'
16:25:53 <ayelet_seeman> JS: unsure the coga aria personalisation fully covers the personalisation for different user groups
16:26:14 <ayelet_seeman> LS: more general than just coga users
16:27:16 <ayelet_seeman> JS: calling it "coga aria proposal" doesn't open us to criticism
16:27:21 <MichaelC> q+
16:29:16 <ayelet_seeman> LS: it is about specifying the functions of the page, which enable personalisation, not techniques specific to COGA
16:30:32 <Mike_Pluke> q+
16:31:13 <MichaelC> ack me
16:31:23 <Lisa_Seeman> ack mi
16:31:48 <MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/TR/indie-ui-context/
16:32:49 <ayelet_seeman> MC: could the difference be defined as one addressing the user agent and user, the other the web author or application?
16:33:55 <Lisa_Seeman> https://github.com/ayelet-seeman/coga.personalisation
16:35:22 <ayelet_seeman> LS: this s off W3C space, we want to show that the aria proposal enables personalisation
16:37:07 <ayelet_seeman> MC: is this something we want to move in to w3c space?
16:37:17 <ayelet_seeman> LS: we'll discuss it off line
16:39:42 <Lisa_Seeman> action: liddy to do an issue paper on meta data support
16:39:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-129 - Do an issue paper on meta data support [on Liddy Nevile - due 2015-08-24].
16:40:16 <ayelet_seeman> LS: had a conversation with Liddie. she will write an issue paper about metadata support for coga. it could take off and could not. We want to include it in the road map ans see if it takes off. issues include ontological support of what the different accommodations, and different ways for metadata to be floating around.
16:41:14 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa to ensure time is on a call soon
16:41:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-130 - Ensure time is on a call soon [on Lisa Seeman - due 2015-08-24].
16:41:30 <ayelet_seeman> SK: doesn't currently have action items
16:46:20 <ayelet_seeman> LS: the review should be a question of does it fully address the issue. next we want to think of the techniques document and gap analysis, and see if they support/include the issues in the issue paper.
16:48:19 <janina> +1 to Lisa
16:49:19 <Lisa_Seeman> ok
16:49:35 <janina> ok!
16:50:36 <ayelet_seeman> ... beyond missing techniques for WCAG, the support missing could go in the gap analysis. what we didn't yet find a way to support/address should also go there
16:51:06 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/techniques/index.html
16:51:40 <ayelet_seeman> ... Did anyone manage to review the techniques page since we edited it?
16:53:20 <ayelet_seeman> JS: suggests looking at the wider context of the work done in the W3C to help with some of the coga concerns, such as the web annotations
16:53:29 <MichaelC> -> http://www.w3.org/annotation/ Web Annotations WG
16:54:01 <MichaelC> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/annotation-model/ Web Annotation Data Model
16:55:19 <Lisa_Seeman> thanks
16:55:42 <ayelet_seeman> LS: will be relevant for security.also  had an idea with Neil of having a matrix of how to treat interruptions, on the OS level - such as letting some apps interrupt more than others, family members, urgency according to user, etc.
16:55:57 <ayelet_seeman> ... any ideas for something that could support it?
16:58:27 <ayelet_seeman> NM: currently has to manually set that he is busy, resulting in constantly being distracted
17:01:55 <ayelet_seeman> present+ Lisa Seeman, Michael Cooper, Richard Schwerdtfeger, John Rochford, Mike Pluke, Susann Keohane, Tony Doran, Neil Milliken, Ayelet Seeman
17:02:01 <Lisa_Seeman> ayelet can you do the minets?
17:02:09 <Lisa_Seeman> ahh... thanks
17:02:21 <ayelet_seeman> rrsagent, create minutes
17:02:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-coga-minutes.html ayelet_seeman
17:02:37 <ayelet_seeman> rrsagent, make logs public
17:08:03 <Lisa_Seeman> by zakim
17:08:09 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim by
17:08:28 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, please part
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17:08:41 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, please part
17:08:41 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-coga-actions.rdf :
17:08:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: liddy to do an issue paper on meta data support [1]
17:08:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-coga-irc#T16-39-42
17:08:41 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa to ensure time is on a call soon [2]
17:08:41 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/08/17-coga-irc#T16-41-14