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14:44:08 <trackbot> Meeting: Web of Things Interest Group Teleconference
14:44:08 <trackbot> Date: 22 July 2015
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15:07:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Web of Things Interest Group Teleconference
15:07:46 <trackbot> Date: 22 July 2015
15:08:05 <jhund> Meeting: Call of TF-DI on 22nd July
15:08:16 <jhund> scribe: JohannesHund
15:08:23 <jhund> scribeNick:jhund
15:08:42 <jhund> Soumya: this is the last call before the sunnyvale f2f
15:09:00 <jhund> [shows his report of TF activity]
15:09:34 <jhund> Soumya: scope of TF-DI is to provide a generic understanding
15:09:53 <jhund> ...as well as a classification and landscaping
15:10:06 <jhund> ...we have to define discovery
15:10:30 <jhund> ...and thing description, which is a prerequisite for discovery
15:10:48 <jhund> ..we have a taxonomy in the wiki
15:10:56 <jhund> ...looking for contributors
15:11:36 <jhund> ....summary of discussions: general, use cases, scopes and dimensions, and building blocks
15:12:21 <jhund> ...building blocks comprise registration, life cycle and an abstraction layer (driver model)
15:12:36 <jhund> ...we also did a survey on the tech landscape
15:12:47 <jhund> ...resulting in 5 categories
15:12:58 <jhund> ...1 finding things around me
15:13:18 <jhund> ...2 finding things on my network
15:13:31 <jhund> ...3 searching in directories
15:13:47 <jhund> ...4 searching across peers
15:14:05 <jhund> ...5 accessing the metadata
15:14:37 <jhund> last one is tightly coupled to TF-TD
15:14:51 <jhund> 3 and 5 are tightly interrelated
15:15:16 <jhund> ...agreements in sunnyvale:
15:15:25 <jhund> ... 1 requirements
15:15:32 <jhund> ... 2 simplification
15:15:41 <jhund> ... 3 building blocks
15:15:57 <jhund> ... 4 tech landscape
15:16:31 <jhund> ... further work will outreach to other TFs
15:16:42 <jhund> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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15:17:21 <jhund> Soumya: kick-start topics post july f2f
15:17:47 <jhund> ... interaction models to find commonalities
15:18:01 <jhund> ... as well as explorative implementations
15:18:17 <jhund> ... security and privacy is gaining importance
15:18:32 <jhund> ... plus continued landscape
15:18:56 <jhund> ... we could outreach to Sensei-IoT for their discovery approach
15:19:26 <jhund> ...tech landscape will be compiled on github
15:19:54 <jhund> RRSAgent, make logs public
15:20:13 <jhund> Soumya: points to wiki page
15:20:41 <jhund> Soumya: this ends the presentation
15:20:53 <jhund> ... Questions?
15:21:19 <jhund> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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15:21:55 <jhund> Joerg: comments on conclusion objectives
15:22:14 <jhund> Joerg: what is already agreed?
15:22:47 <jhund> Soumya: the building blocks in abstract view are common understanding
15:23:35 <jhund> ... we decided on the mentioned three, but we have more ahead
15:25:29 <jhund> ... like authorization
15:26:28 <jhund> Joerg: we had this discussion, but I would not put them up for conclusion as of now
15:26:50 <jhund> Joerg: what is behind simplification of discovery?
15:27:17 <jhund> Soumya: topics like "is discoveryy running by itself in the background?"
15:27:39 <jhund> ... how can we make it simpler to keep the human out of the loop?
15:28:19 <jhund> ... and we should agree that we have this
15:28:40 <jhund> Joerg: shouldn't that be an exploration topic?
15:28:44 <jhund> Soumya: agreed
15:29:13 <jhund> Joerg: could we put building blocks for later?
15:29:30 <jhund> Soumya: will do and send first draft to TF moderators
15:30:20 <jhund> Joerg: what could topics be for a joint breakout between TF-DI and the security and privacy group?
15:30:48 <jhund> Soumya: we have a discussion pint on security and access mechaqnisms
15:30:59 <jhund> s/pint/point/
15:31:40 <jhund> ... we could reduce the number of devices a user can discover by grouping
15:32:19 <jhund> Joerg: Oliver had a pointer for the joint discussion
15:32:44 <jhund> [Joerg pointds to the sec&priv-catalogue on the wiki]
15:32:57 <jhund> s/pointds/points/
15:33:27 <jhund> Joerg: maybe take that catalogue as base for discussion
15:34:00 <jhund> ... and maybe grouped by the discovery categories
15:35:23 <jhund> ... could you do some slides for the joint session on the F2F
15:35:33 <jhund> Soumya: will prepare that
15:35:58 <jhund> Soumya: more comments?
15:37:52 <jhund> Joerg: S&P will meet in the morning, TF-DI in the afternooin
15:38:13 <jhund> ... S%P will then join the other TF meetings
15:38:38 <jhund> jhund: maybe have a solitary slide for the agreed points
15:38:57 <jhund> Soumya: ok
15:39:46 <jhund> Joerg: maybe assemble a first list of persons to query for topics on the landscape
15:40:21 <jhund> Joerg:  so people can arrange themselves on the meeting
15:40:37 <jhund> Soumya: that would be it
15:40:49 <jhund> Joerg: thanks for the report
15:41:21 <jhund> Joerg: dsuggestions for chairing on the F2F to take your place?
15:41:41 <jhund> Soumya: Joerg or Dave would be good
15:41:56 <jhund> ... if there is a scribe it'll be good
15:42:24 <jhund> Joerg: could bring along conferencing equipment
15:43:18 <jhund> ... that would be unconvient time
15:43:52 <jhund> Soumya: would be ok for me, I would like to participate if possible
15:44:25 <jhund> [meeting adjurned]
15:44:39 <jhund> RRSAgent, make minutes
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15:45:02 <jhund> Chair: Soumya
15:45:37 <jhund> present+ Johannes_Hund,Soumya,Joerg_Heuer
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