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15:36:06 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
15:36:06 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Lisa_Seeman
15:37:05 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets:Chaohai Ding , Tim Boland,E.A. Draffan,Jamie Knight ,Steve Lee ,Susann Keohane
15:44:40 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
15:44:42 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  review actions, and timelines
15:44:43 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Issue papers - GA
15:44:45 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Techniques -  GA
15:44:46 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Next ftf ideas (TPAC and Katie suggestion)
15:44:48 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ be done
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16:02:22 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
16:02:29 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
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16:02:43 <Lisa_Seeman> ack rich
16:02:47 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
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16:05:28 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
16:05:53 <Ryladog> Present+ Katie Haritos-Shea
16:06:27 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, clear agenda
16:06:27 <Zakim> agenda cleared
16:06:39 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this agenda+  review actions, and timelinesagenda+  Issue papers - GAagenda+  Techniques -  GAagenda+  Next ftf ideas (TPAC and Katie suggestion) agenda+ be done
16:06:51 <ayelet_seeman> Present+ ayelet.a
16:06:51 <janina> present+ janina
16:07:15 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this agenda+  review actions, and timelinesagenda+  Issue papers - GAagenda+  Techniques -  GAagenda+  Next ftf ideas (TPAC and Katie suggestion) agenda+ be done
16:07:32 <janina> agenda?
16:07:43 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
16:07:45 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  review actions, and timelines
16:07:46 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Issue papers - GA
16:07:48 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Techniques -  GA
16:07:49 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Next ftf ideas (TPAC and Katie suggestion)agenda+  Other issue papers
16:07:51 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ be done
16:08:23 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: ayelet_seeman
16:08:28 <janina> agenda?
16:08:38 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
16:08:41 <MichaelC> present+ MichaelC
16:08:43 <janina> Sorry, everyone. Bad connection to my ISP
16:09:02 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
16:09:18 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#Current_schedules
16:10:29 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa to ping people not on the call about thier action items
16:10:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-121 - Ping people not on the call about thier action items [on Lisa Seeman - due 2015-07-13].
16:11:26 <ayelet_seeman> LS: we need to finish reviewing the issue papers by 31st July, as the WCAG extension is dependent on it
16:12:34 <ayelet_seeman> JR: the issue paper for mofdality was finished at May
16:15:14 <JohnRochford> Multi-Modal Issue Paper on GitHub = https://github.com/w3c/coga/blob/master/issue-papers/multi-modal.html
16:15:26 <janina> We were going to try to get the person who posted the issue paper on a call for further discussion.
16:16:21 <janina> My review was that there were no use cases
16:16:45 <janina> In other words, nothing particular to web of things
16:17:03 <janina> All issues listed are true in general, and not specific to wot
16:18:15 <janina> Was that Gottfried Zimmerman?
16:18:56 <janina> OK. But Gottfried's ISO specs are NOT wot
16:19:06 <janina> web of things
16:19:33 <janina> Same concern
16:19:48 <ayelet_seeman> LS: Rich asked Gottfried. things like simplification aren't being included. that's a gap that needs to be brought in
16:20:02 <janina> Gottfried's working on Universal Remote; ISO 24752
16:20:16 <janina> myurc.org
16:20:45 <ayelet_seeman> LS: wot has been merged partially with internet of thinga
16:20:52 <janina> And the issues presented are spot on, just not particular to internet/web of things
16:21:08 <JohnRochford> Janina, are you sure that is the correct site?
16:21:24 <janina> Wroking off the top of my head, it's something similar ...
16:23:00 <ayelet_seeman> LS: the techniques of the dyscalculia haven't been reviewed
16:23:52 <ayelet_seeman> ... requested John adds it to the github and LS to the gap analysis
16:24:47 <Lisa_Seeman> action John Rochford to add dysculcula techneques to github, Lisa to add them to gap annalis
16:24:48 <trackbot> 'John' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, JohnRochford).
16:24:54 <Lisa_Seeman> action JohnRochford to add dysculcula techneques to github, Lisa to add them to gap annalis
16:24:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-122 - Add dysculcula techneques to github, lisa to add them to gap annalis [on John Rochford - due 2015-07-13].
16:25:09 <Lisa_Seeman> next item
16:27:17 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Providing_graded_help#Settings
16:27:29 <ayelet_seeman> LS: added potential types of symbols and language support to the graded help
16:29:54 <janina> Looks like myurc.org has been abandoned by the ISO work and taken over by a Japanese business concern
16:30:49 <janina> It's still listed by Trace: http://trace.wisc.edu/resources/#start
16:31:08 <ayelet_seeman> having brain storming session on types of symbols and language support
16:31:33 <ayelet_seeman> JR: suggests changing "symbol" to "drawing"
16:33:06 <ayelet_seeman> MP: symbolic or realistic images for support
16:34:05 <ayelet_seeman> LS: EA wanted to change "present voice" to
16:35:07 <ayelet_seeman> ... "active tense". am debating if to add "when possible", as there are cases in which it doesn't work.
16:35:32 <ayelet_seeman> https://w3c.github.io/coga/techniques/#use-active-rather-than-passive-voice.x
16:35:49 <ayelet_seeman> thanks Janina
16:41:03 <ayelet_seeman> JR: what does the "frequency" mean?
16:41:16 <ayelet_seeman> LS: frequency of images - different people want images in different frequencies, i. e. one per paragraph, per sentence, etc.
16:45:48 <ayelet_seeman> LS: E. A. asked about "number free" - what does it mean
16:46:35 <ayelet_seeman> LS: suggests changing it ti "avoid or explain using numerals, text to numerals and numerical concepts"
16:46:46 <ayelet_seeman> *changing it to
16:50:06 <ayelet_seeman> LS: pronoun free - impossible in English (E.A.) should be removed as what is intended is active voice
16:52:20 <ayelet_seeman> LS: E.A. asked about icons
16:52:57 <ayelet_seeman> JR: is it different beyond the size?
16:53:57 <ayelet_seeman> conclusion: more like a symbol
16:54:49 <ayelet_seeman> LS: E.A. frequencies depend on context.
16:55:28 <ayelet_seeman> LS: these are preferences, so it should be fine
16:56:05 <ayelet_seeman> John: suggests to standardize a set of symbols
16:57:58 <ayelet_seeman> LS: the approach taken is to let the user set the symbols the user prefers
16:58:27 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Easy_Personalization
16:59:34 <Ryladog> Sorry, I have to drop
17:00:24 <ayelet_seeman> LS: would be good if someone would make a set of symbols and upload them online
17:00:59 <ayelet_seeman> ... and then Chaohai and Ayelet could link to them
17:01:28 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:01:50 <Lisa_Seeman> iso symbols
17:02:01 <ayelet_seeman> https://w3c.github.io/coga/issue-papers/links-buttons.html
17:02:33 <ayelet_seeman> John - is that what you're looking for?
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17:05:00 <Lisa_Seeman> action JohnRochford to make sample symbol set and text tool tips for link types and buttons  types from https://w3c.github.io/coga/issue-papers/links-buttons.html
17:05:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-123 - Make sample symbol set and text tool tips for link types and buttons  types from https://w3c.github.io/coga/issue-papers/links-buttons.html [on John Rochford - due 2015-07-13].
17:05:13 <ayelet_seeman> Lisa - could you generate the minutes?
17:05:29 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, make logs public
17:05:37 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, create minutes
17:05:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/07/06-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
17:06:07 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, please part
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17:06:15 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, please part
17:06:15 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/07/06-coga-actions.rdf :
17:06:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa to ping people not on the call about thier action items [1]
17:06:15 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/07/06-coga-irc#T16-10-29