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15:09:54 <clapierre> charles, had a great meeting with Jeanne Spellman, who gave us great insight on how to do our note.
15:11:28 <clapierre> deborah, Jeanne mentioned the idea that make it clear in our note, where changes we may need, either a new spec or additional information…  Do not specify which group needs to do that work.
15:12:15 <clapierre> …, draft the first version of footnotes/author notes
15:12:44 <clapierre> …, involves personalization, jump back to where you were.  Some of it is UA, some is content
15:13:33 <clapierre> …, some are complicated some are really simple (but notes are really complicated), DropCap is simple to explain but we need outreach.
15:13:50 <clapierre> …, start as a draft and then get comments from everyone.
15:14:52 <tzviya> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html
15:15:56 <clapierre> tzviya, footnote discussions for DPUB.
15:16:18 <clapierre> deborah, hoping to give Footnotes to Tzyvia to deal with :)
15:16:59 <clapierre> …, content creators need to adopt this, and UA needs to support it.
15:17:37 <clapierre> tzviya, hopes this will become a working draft.
15:18:19 <clapierre> topic: Aria 1.1 describedAt
15:19:32 <clapierre> tzviya, took over a year just to get AltText into their publications, so …
15:22:09 <clapierre> deborah, publishers are worried about this since there is no browsers that support this.
15:23:41 <clapierre> tzviya, publishers are just getting to embrace a11y and are just getting up to speed on this but can't commit to the timeline.
15:27:40 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18385
15:29:11 <clapierre> deborah, we may be able to do a proof of concept but can't commit, charles agrees that Benetech could also do a POC in Bookshare
15:32:15 <clapierre> …, we need to tell publishers what they need to be doing for A11Y
15:32:36 <clapierre> …, but that being said we know how publishers work and this will be a hard sell
15:34:34 <clapierre> …, we need tell them to use this new tool describedAt to implement this A11Y for anything not just images.
15:35:23 <clapierre> tzviya, we need to write up a description the differences between longdesc, describedBy, and describedAt
15:36:22 <clapierre> tzviya, we are just getting publishers to deal with A11Y, so now is not the time to cut describedAt
15:37:47 <tzviya> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Aug/0028.html
15:41:38 <clapierre> deborah, will write up a draft of the differences between LD/DBy/DAt and send them to our group before Mondays meeting
15:53:27 <clapierre> tzviya, we have a BISG meeting on tuesday, we will need to give an update
15:54:13 <clapierre> deborah, we can tell them we are continuing to work on our note
15:54:59 <clapierre> charles, we should also inform them about this ARIA describedAt issue and give them a recap of the results from Mondays meeting on this topic
15:56:22 <clapierre> tzviya, we can also tell them about the WAI-ARIA DPUB Module that we hope to be publishing soon
15:56:47 <clapierre> rrsagent, draft minutes
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