13:03:00 RRSAgent has joined #tvapi 13:03:00 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/06/09-tvapi-irc 13:03:04 zakim, this will tv 13:03:04 I don't understand 'this will tv', kaz 13:03:08 zakim, this will api 13:03:08 I don't understand 'this will api', kaz 13:03:15 zakim, this will be tv 13:03:16 ok, kaz, I see WEBT_TVAPICG()9:00AM already started 13:03:21 zakim, call kazuyuki-617 13:03:21 ok, kaz; the call is being made 13:03:22 +Kazuyuki 13:03:44 zakim, who is here? 13:03:44 On the phone I see +1.650.580.aaaa, +49.303.aabb, +44.303.040.aacc, +1.650.946.aadd, Kazuyuki 13:03:46 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Bin_Hu, aldafu, skim13, cpn, kaz, jcverdie, ted, trackbot 13:03:58 +49.303 is me 13:04:02 zakim, aadd is me 13:04:02 +Bin_Hu; got it 13:04:06 +[IPcaller] 13:04:09 zakim, aabb is aldafu 13:04:09 +aldafu; got it 13:04:11 zakim, aacc is me 13:04:11 +cpn; got it 13:04:12 zakim, IPcaller is me 13:04:13 +skim13; got it 13:04:22 zakim, who is here? 13:04:22 On the phone I see +1.650.580.aaaa, aldafu, cpn, Bin_Hu, Kazuyuki, skim13 13:04:25 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Bin_Hu, aldafu, skim13, cpn, kaz, jcverdie, ted, trackbot 13:05:22 zakim, aaaa is paul 13:05:22 +paul; got it 13:06:08 zakim, wo is here? 13:06:08 sorry, kaz, I do not understand your question 13:06:13 zakim, who is here? 13:06:13 On the phone I see paul, aldafu, cpn, Bin_Hu, Kazuyuki, skim13 13:06:15 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Bin_Hu, aldafu, skim13, cpn, kaz, jcverdie, ted, trackbot 13:06:20 Scribe: Chris 13:06:23 scribenick: cpn 13:06:41 Meeting: TV Control API CG 13:06:47 Chair: Bin Hu 13:07:20 Topic: Review open actions 13:07:43 Bin: There are 3 open items 13:08:52 -> https://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/wiki/Main_Page/Requirements_Mapping GENIVI added to the table 13:09:01 action 27 we should leave open 13:09:01 Error finding '27'. You can review and register nicknames at . 13:09:11 action-27? 13:09:12 action-27 -- Bin Hu to Work on triggered interactive overlay requirements -- due 2015-02-24 -- OPEN 13:09:12 http://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/track/actions/27 13:09:34 action-30? 13:09:34 action-30 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Skim the work done by the media pipeline tf and let this cg know -- due 2015-04-21 -- OPEN 13:09:34 http://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/track/actions/30 13:09:48 action-32? 13:09:48 action-32 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Add column to gap analysis/requirements table for genivi ideas -- due 2015-05-19 -- OPEN 13:09:48 http://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/track/actions/32 13:10:07 Bin_Hu: We should leave these actions open for next time 13:10:37 Topic: Gap analysis 13:11:42 Bin_Hu: Chris is looking at timeshifting, Sung-Hei the CAS, Paul is looking at programme recording, and Bin and Sean the Triggered Overlays 13:16:23 s|-> https://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/wiki/Main_Page/Requirements_Mapping GENIVI added to the table|| 13:17:00 i|We should|-> https://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/wiki/Main_Page/Requirements_Mapping GENIVI column is added to the table| 13:17:07 rrsagent, make log public 13:17:11 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:17:11 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/09-tvapi-minutes.html kaz 13:17:44 zakim, who is here? 13:17:44 On the phone I see paul, aldafu, cpn, Bin_Hu, Kazuyuki, skim13 13:17:46 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Bin_Hu, aldafu, skim13, cpn, kaz, jcverdie, ted, trackbot 13:18:09 Present: paul, aldafu, cpn, Bin, Kaz, skim13 13:18:13 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:18:13 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/09-tvapi-minutes.html kaz 13:25:52 Chris: explains the detail of the investigation into MediaStream in https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tvapi/2015Jun/0000.html 13:26:26 ... there's a question of what the MediaElement's currentTime attribute should report when connected to a MediaStream 13:27:04 ... the other details are really the consequences of taking the existing MediaStream and allowing buffering 13:28:50 Paul: Should we be looking at introducing an internediary object, to sit between the MediaStream and the MediaElement? 13:30:24 Chris: Possibly, but it appears to me that the MediaElement has much of what we need, in terms of describing the interaction between the MediaElement and the MediaStream, as well as buffering performed by the User Agent 13:31:26 Bin_Hu: Chris's email says that we've missed the deadline (May 15) for proposing changes to the Media Capture and Streams spec 13:31:57 ... So it looks like we should proceed by writing our own glue specification 13:33:05 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 13:33:45 Paul: In our spec, could the tuner object have an API that allows control of the buffering, so that the controls for trick play go to our object, and similar for recording? 13:36:14 Chris: Yes, this gives us a place to define the functionality we need, rather than trying to adapt existing W3C specs 13:36:55 q+ 13:37:04 Bin_Hu: So, can we start a discussion on the mailing list about this approach? 13:39:01 Paul: Yes, we can compile a list of changes needed to the tuner API, including e.g., parental control, timeshifting, recording 13:39:42 ack k 13:40:28 action: Paul to send to the mailing list an initial list of changes to the tuner API 13:40:28 Created ACTION-33 - Send to the mailing list an initial list of changes to the tuner api [on Paul Higgs - due 2015-06-16]. 13:41:05 Kaz: We should let the Media Capture Streams group know about our ideas 13:41:25 Paul_Higgs has joined #tvapi 13:43:18 Bin_Hu: Chris's email has a summary of what we've found 13:44:14 Action: Kaz to email Daniel Burnett with our MediaStream findings 13:44:15 Created ACTION-34 - Email daniel burnett with our mediastream findings [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2015-06-16]. 13:46:13 Bin_Hu: Is there any update on Conditional Access Systems? 13:46:52 Sung-Hei: I can see how we'll handle this in the group, so I'll take the same approach 13:48:17 Bin_Hu: Programme Recording? Paul, would you have time to look into this when compiling the list of changes? 13:49:29 Paul: I looked at offline recording some time ago, but didn't find a solution, e.g., in the File API. I'll put some information into the bullet list that we can turn into an API later 13:50:19 ... Also for parental ratings, I'll try to think how things need to be translated, maybe adding a rating to the programme object 13:52:11 ... We may need to define an interface to a recording scheduler, as there doesn't appear to be a concrete solution in the existing APIs 13:52:56 action: Paul to add offline recording to the list of tuner api changes 13:52:57 Created ACTION-35 - Add offline recording to the list of tuner api changes [on Paul Higgs - due 2015-06-16]. 13:53:26 Bin_Hu: Next is Triggered Interactive Overlay 13:53:42 ... Sean is on vacation at the moment, but he and I are working on it 13:54:18 Bin_Hu: Any other questions or issues with the gaps? 13:55:25 Paul: Is the Triggered Interactive Overlay the TVTriggerCue in the spec? 13:55:28 Bin_Hu: Yes 13:56:16 Bin_Hu: We have identified some other gaps, but these could take less effort to address the larger gaps, so let's leave those for now 13:56:23 Bin_Hu: AOB? 13:56:53 s/Is the Triggered/Is that the Triggered/ 13:57:26 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 13:57:33 Bin_Hu: Let's meet again in 4 weeks, and we should have a more detailed update on Triggered Interactive Overlays then 13:57:41 -paul 13:57:43 -aldafu 13:57:44 -skim13 13:57:45 -Bin_Hu 13:57:50 Bin_Hu: Thank you all for contributions 13:57:55 -cpn 13:57:58 skim13 has left #tvapi 13:58:02 -Kazuyuki 13:58:03 WEBT_TVAPICG()9:00AM has ended 13:58:03 Attendees were +1.650.580.aaaa, +49.303.aabb, +44.303.040.aacc, +1.650.946.aadd, Kazuyuki, Bin_Hu, aldafu, cpn, skim13, paul 13:58:32 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:58:32 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/09-tvapi-minutes.html cpn 13:59:22 s/internediary/intermediary/ 14:00:10 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:00:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/09-tvapi-minutes.html cpn 14:14:28 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 14:39:45 nigel has joined #tvapi 14:42:19 nigel has joined #tvapi 14:48:43 nigel_ has joined #tvapi 14:59:16 nigel has joined #tvapi 15:30:00 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 15:31:42 cpn has left #tvapi 15:42:34 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 16:03:42 Zakim has left #tvapi 16:05:05 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 16:08:57 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 16:44:03 jcverdie has joined #tvapi 16:52:11 jcverdie has joined #tvapi