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17:05:46 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
17:05:46 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(ARIA)1:00PM scheduled to start 5 minutes ago
17:05:47 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
17:05:47 <trackbot> Date: 08 June 2015
17:06:38 <mattking> present+ matt_king
17:06:51 <annabbott> present+ ann_abbott
17:07:12 <Birkir> present+ Birkir
17:09:03 <mattking> Agenda+ Review updates to listbox pattern https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/practices/aria-practices.html#Listbox
17:09:05 <mattking> Agenda+ menubutton pattern review https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/practices/aria-practices.html#menubutton
17:10:30 <annabbott> scribe: ann_abbott
17:11:08 <annabbott> zakim, take up agenda item 1
17:11:08 <Zakim> 'item\ 1' does not match any agenda item, annabbott
17:11:42 <annabbott> zakim, take up first item
17:11:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up first item', annabbott
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17:12:13 <annabbott> zakim, take up next item
17:12:13 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Review updates to listbox pattern https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/practices/aria-practices.html#Listbox" taken up [from mattking]
17:13:45 <annabbott> Matt: Listbox bug has lots of items, so is only 1/3 thru.
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17:14:29 <annabbott> Matt: will review listbox at next meeting
17:14:46 <annabbott> zakim, take up  next item
17:14:46 <Zakim> agendum 2. "menubutton pattern review https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/practices/aria-practices.html#menubutton" taken up [from mattking]
17:16:25 <annabbott> Matt: currently 2 bugs for menubutton
17:17:56 <Jemma> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/practices/aria-practices.html#menubutton
17:19:39 <mattking> 26377: pattern-menubutton keyboard practices don't work correctly with JAWS
17:19:41 <mattking> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26377
17:19:42 <mattking> 27811: pattern-menubutton should refer to the menu pattern for keyboard interaction
17:19:44 <mattking> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27811
17:23:20 <annabbott> 26377: pattern-menubutton keyboard practices don't work correctly with JAWS
17:24:46 <mattking> To address the issue, is hte following adequate?
17:24:49 <mattking> * Change
17:24:51 <mattking> Space or Enter - With focus on the button pressing Space or Enter will toggle the display of the drop-down menu. Focus remains on the button.
17:24:52 <mattking> to
17:24:54 <mattking> Space or Enter - With focus on the button pressing Space or Enter will toggle the display of the drop-down menu. Focus moves to the first menu item.
17:25:07 <annabbott> Birkir: Focus must move to first menu item
17:34:32 <annabbott> Birkir: mobile browser handling is different than native mobile handling
17:36:38 <annabbott> Ann: if "will toggle the display", does that mean using aria-pressed="true"?
17:37:24 <annabbott> Birkir: drop "toggle"
17:38:38 <annabbott> correction: Brian said mobile browser handling is different than native mobile handling
17:38:46 <mattking> Space or Enter - With focus on the button pressing Space or Enter will the display the drop-down menu. Focus moves to the first menu item.
17:41:15 <mattking> Space or Enter - With focus on the button, pressing Space or Enter will the display the drop-down menu and focus moves to the first menu item.
17:41:54 <annabbott> Matt: updating bug with last text.
17:44:30 <Birkir> Propose to remove the following: "◦ With focus on the button and the drop-down menu open, pressing Down Arrow will move focus into the menu onto the first menu item."
17:45:59 <annabbott> Matt: just delete second bullet under Down Arrow.
17:48:08 <mattking> *Change:
17:48:09 <annabbott> Matt: also revise first bullet under Down Arrow.
17:48:09 <mattking> - With focus on the button and no drop-down menu displayed, pressing Down Arrow will open the drop-down menu and move focus into the menu and onto the
17:48:11 <mattking> first menu item.
17:48:12 <mattking> To:
17:48:14 <mattking> - With focus on the button, pressing Down Arrow will open the drop-down menu and move focus to the first menu item.
17:48:34 <annabbott> Group agrees
17:49:26 <annabbott> Matt: bug updated
17:51:00 <annabbott> Brian: what happens if menu is open and TAB is pressed? Does it close menu?
17:51:45 <annabbott> Matt: thinks menu should be closed
18:00:57 <annabbott> Matt: will make menubutton edits and will review next week.
18:02:54 <mattking> rrsagent, make minutes
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