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14:58:45 <trackbot> Meeting: Web of Things Interest Group Teleconference
14:58:45 <trackbot> Date: 03 June 2015
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15:08:19 <trackbot> Meeting: Web of Things Interest Group Teleconference
15:08:19 <trackbot> Date: 03 June 2015
15:08:40 <jhund> Meeting: WoT IG thing description task force call
15:08:47 <Soumya> present + Soumya
15:08:49 <jhund> present +Johannes_Hund
15:09:02 <jhund> scribe:Arne
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15:09:09 <Arne> present + Arne_Broering
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15:09:34 <jhund> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:09:56 <jhund> Chair: Sebastian_Kaebisch
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15:10:19 <Arne> 1. Overview of WoT TD wiki page
15:11:09 <Arne> http://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Thing_Description
15:14:00 <Arne> 2. Agenda Point: JSON-LD
15:14:28 <Arne> Souleiman unfortunately not available today
15:14:40 <Arne> Sebastian is showing his slides
15:15:03 <jhund> s/his/Souleymans'/
15:15:37 <Arne> Question: is JSON-LD equivalent to RDF ?
15:18:19 <Arne> Assumption: RDF -> JSON-LD works fine ... JSON-LD -> RDF is difficult
15:19:25 <Arne> Sebastian: last week presentation in SSN ... how does it look like in JSON-LD?
15:20:18 <Arne> Sebastian: once Souleiman joins us we can discuss in detail
15:20:35 <Arne> 3. Agenda: Evrythng presents WoT Label
15:22:08 <Arne> Dom presents slides "towards a lightewight standard to make things talk web"
15:23:05 <Arne> Dom same slides as in Munich
15:23:45 <Arne> Dom: idea to resolve the "mess" of the IoT
15:24:17 <Arne> Dom: bringing order in the chaos on the Application Level
15:24:37 <Arne> Dom: at least have uniformity on the Application Layer
15:24:58 <Arne> Dom: mission is bridging gap between things and Web
15:25:26 <Arne> Dom: results are from compose EU project + evrythng
15:27:08 <Arne> Dom: WoT != IoT --> need for simple set of rules (protocol, resource models, support for extensions)
15:28:33 <Arne> Dom: goal: 1. blueprints, 2. standard resource model
15:29:31 <Arne> Dom: helpful for e.g.: automatic UI generation, automatic mashups, API to API integration, M2M communication ...
15:31:11 <Arne> Dom: find the document here: bit.ly/WOT-LABEL
15:32:46 <Arne> DOM: use same blueprints, resources, formats for thing, gateway, cloud
15:35:30 <Arne> Johannes: more important than format is the data model
15:36:29 <Arne> Dom: agrees. first decide on entities and structure
15:37:13 <Arne> Dom: then see about data format
15:37:27 <Arne> Dom: quite often used in the field: MessagePack
15:37:47 <Arne> Dave: agrees. scalability is important
15:38:19 <Arne> Dom: could see base model encoded in JSON and then extensions in JSON-LD
15:39:10 <jhund> +1 for media type
15:39:23 <Arne> Dave: actually JSON-LD already supports that
15:39:52 <Arne> Dave: JSON-LD allows to specify default namespace
15:41:18 <Arne> Dom: shows slide: actors: 1. clients & 2. web things (virtual counterparts of physical objects)
15:42:11 <Arne> Dom: Client performs "Actions" on Web Things
15:42:37 <Arne> Dom: Web Thing communicates "Events" to Client
15:43:26 <Arne> Dom: Web Thing has "Properties" (e.g. temperature)
15:44:19 <Arne> Darko: how can a client understand what a web thing offers?
15:45:12 <Arne> Dom: we propose a common way of modelling properties
15:46:57 <Arne> Dom: the practicality of a full semantic web approach is not yet given
15:47:29 <Arne> Dom: shows related proposals: GATT REST API, Apple Home Kit, Google Brillo & Weave
15:48:16 <Arne> Dave: what is needed are well-defined and shared vocabularies
15:49:13 <Arne> Dave: it relates to discovery... you want vocabularies for that
15:50:02 <Arne> Johannes: Question: could {wt}/meta store semantic annotation?
15:50:09 <Arne> Dom: yes
15:51:00 <Arne> Ari: have you looked into deep source smart object
15:52:01 <jhund> s/deep source/IPSO/
15:52:57 <Arne> Ari: it is an ongoing initiative and they are looking for input
15:53:38 <Arne> Sebastian: asks for a presentation on IPSO smart objects
15:53:47 <Arne> Ari: yes we can do that
15:55:39 <Arne> Dom: compose and evrythng API do not define yet semantic models for things
15:55:54 <Arne> Sebastian: what is now the WoT label?
15:56:19 <Arne> Dom: the idea is to give a label to things that are Web friendly
15:56:59 <Arne> Dom: it was just the initial name for the initiative
15:58:35 <Arne> Dom: http://devices.webofthings.io
16:00:13 <Arne> Dom: next steps: 1. document now open for comments, 2. subscriptions & web sockets, 3. major protocols integration (mqtt, coap), 4. integration points (semantic web, social networks,...), --> first draft June 16.
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