22:55:44 RRSAgent has joined #auto 22:55:44 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/06/02-auto-irc 22:55:46 RRSAgent, make logs ab 22:55:46 Zakim has joined #auto 22:55:48 Zakim, this will be 22:55:48 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 22:55:49 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 22:55:49 Date: 02 June 2015 22:56:27 QingAn has joined #auto 22:56:58 QingAn_ has joined #Auto 22:57:03 Agenda: http://www.w3.org/mid/87ED650B-5271-4599-B5C4-1A485C17D893@opencar.com 22:57:46 ted has changed the topic to: 2015-06-02 call information http://www.w3.org/mid/C56479DFB0D2A64B848493BB6F1CEBB237F15008@MBX028-W1-CA-8.exch028.domain.local 23:00:12 paul has joined #auto 23:01:23 junichi has joined #auto 23:03:55 scribenick: ted 23:04:06 agenda+ FPWD 23:04:30 agenda+ Call for concensus 23:04:59 agenda+ F2F in Seattle 23:05:09 agenda+ Rawgit vs Github branches 23:05:43 Paul: I understand KDDI has some more attendees 23:06:10 Hira: we have Hashimoto-san from KDDI to join us for auto security and privacy tf 23:07:08 Hashimoto: I am with KDDI and have worked on Firefox-OS. I'm here for security and privacy topics 23:07:29 @@: Also from KDDI and here for security and privacy 23:07:48 zakim, next agendum 23:07:48 agendum 1. "FPWD" taken up [from ted] 23:07:56 s/@@/Fujiwara/ 23:08:08 djensen47 has joined #auto 23:08:22 Paul: unless we have formal issues arise we hope to initiate this first public working draft this week 23:08:25 What's the Goto Meeting id? 23:08:47 I've failed w/2 different ones. :-/ 23:09:36 ... Wonsuk has been an active editor. Qing An do you have 23:09:46 Huh 23:09:47 s/have/have any comments to add?/ 23:10:29 rrsagent, make log public 23:10:34 rrsagent, draft minutes 23:10:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/02-auto-minutes.html kaz 23:10:50 Thanks, I'm in. (I thought I tried that id) 23:11:22 Qing An: we have collaboration here and hope to push our FPWD out 23:11:34 ... it isn't fully done 23:11:53 ... we want to review the pull requests as soon as possible and merge with current version 23:14:32 Ted: it is a first public working draft and I feel what we have is fairly advanced given the history of changes. it doesn't have to be as crisp as we would expect a final specification. if anyone feels there are any major, glaring issues then we absolutely should not publish but 23:15:27 urata_ACCESS has joined #auto 23:15:57 Paul: I have been staying current on the list and wondering if an editor's call would be appropriate 23:16:03 Qing An: I agree 23:18:19 Ted: it would be appropriate to have a break-out call provided we have minutes available and give a frozen version to the list that can be reviewed before published 23:18:36 Paul: that work for you Qing An? 23:18:43 Qing An: Yes and I agree 23:19:11 Paul: we have had quite a few comments and revisions, which is great but we need to be clear on where we stand 23:19:22 ... I'll send something out for next Tuesday 23:19:54 Kaz: we should also discuss our publication schedule 23:20:15 Paul: early next week would be good for me 23:20:18 -> https://www.w3.org/2014/automotive/ draft home page 23:20:34 -> http://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Main_Page auto wiki 23:20:38 Kaz: we are working on the automotive main page and want to update our publication schedule then 23:21:31 agenda? 23:21:37 zakim, close this agendum 23:21:37 agendum 1 closed 23:21:38 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 23:21:38 2. Call for concensus [from ted] 23:21:44 zakim, take up agendum 3 23:21:44 agendum 3. "F2F in Seattle" taken up [from ted] 23:22:25 Paul: Seattle was the clear winner (unlike the super bowl :P) 23:22:55 ... we have a great space picked out and sent an email with the logistics. July 28th and 29th 23:23:07 ... plenty of hotels of all ranges in the area 23:23:58 ... I'll send an invite and ask people to register so we can have an accurate head count 23:24:03 zakim, close this agendum 23:24:03 agendum 3 closed 23:24:04 I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is 23:24:04 2. Call for concensus [from ted] 23:24:15 zakim, take up agendum 4 23:24:15 agendum 4. "Rawgit vs Github branches" taken up [from ted] 23:24:30 Paul: I prefer rawgit as... less raw 23:24:38 ... but have no strong preference 23:24:39 q+ 23:24:59 Kaz: we had some internal discussion and there is no strong preference here either 23:25:32 Paul: Qing An as our respresentative editor present do you have a preference 23:25:48 Qing An: as it is an unofficial version it is ok to use either 23:26:10 q? 23:26:25 ack t 23:26:50 https://labs.w3.org/echidna/ 23:27:21 ted: there is an automatic publication mechanism named Echidna 23:28:35 Dave: I saw it from the js style guide but it makes sense to use it 23:28:56 Paul: Qing An have you look at this tool? 23:30:01 QingAn: can see how to use it 23:30:08 ted: don't worry about how to use it 23:30:19 ... if the group would like to use it, I can help 23:30:32 ... heart beat drafts can be automatically published 23:31:04 +1 for echidna 23:31:47 Ted: we can review during the editors call as well 23:32:02 ... we can stop using it if necessary 23:32:05 Paul: that would be helpful 23:32:16 topic: Security&Privacy TF 23:32:32 ted: planning to send out a public call for participation 23:32:46 ... BG/WG participants can join 23:33:10 q+ 23:33:38 hira: will Ted send out the CfP? 23:33:41 paul: yes 23:33:54 Ted: either of the chairs, Kaz or I can add people to the TF. I will send the CfP publicly 23:34:17 Kaz: should we use the existing wiki or another? 23:35:58 Subject: [SP IG] 23:36:10 ted: we can set up a different issue tracker and mailing list 23:37:08 paul: agree 23:37:19 ted: will set up a new ML 23:37:38 public-auto-sec@w3.org 23:38:07 public-auto-privacy@w3.org 23:38:38 Ted: I will get that all set up tomorrow 23:39:18 rrsagent, draft minutes 23:39:18 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/02-auto-minutes.html ted 23:40:43 Present: Paul, Ted, Dave, Hira, Fujiwara, Junichi, Kaz, QingAn, Urata 23:40:50 rrsagent, draft minutes 23:40:50 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/02-auto-minutes.html kaz 23:41:11 Chair: Paul 23:41:12 rrsagent, draft minutes 23:41:12 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/02-auto-minutes.html kaz 05:00:54 kaz has joined #auto