00:00:47 RRSAgent has joined #auto 00:00:47 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/05/27-auto-irc 00:00:49 RRSAgent, make logs ab 00:00:49 Zakim has joined #auto 00:00:51 Zakim, this will be 00:00:51 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 00:00:52 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 00:00:52 Date: 27 May 2015 00:01:10 Meeting: Automotive BG 00:01:12 Chair: Adam 00:01:12 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-autowebplatform/2015May/0004.html 00:01:12 Scribe: Ted 00:01:19 agenda+ Summarize F2F 00:01:19 agenda+ Cover AR's taken in F2F 00:01:19 agenda+ Security subteam 00:01:22 agenda+ LBS subteam 00:01:25 agenda+ Media/Tuner subteam with TV CG 00:01:29 agenda+ Editors 00:01:33 agenda+ Charter 00:03:49 Present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Adam_Abramski, Qing An, Ted Guild, Ryan Davis 00:05:02 abramski has joined #auto 00:07:04 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-autowebplatform/2015May/0004.html 00:07:05 agenda? 00:07:19 rrsagent, make log member 00:07:23 rrsagent, draft minutes 00:07:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/27-auto-minutes.html kaz 00:07:35 JEITA_murakami has joined #auto 00:08:05 Present+ Noboru_Murakami 00:09:09 Present+ Sven_Hotta, Shinjiro_Urata 00:10:35 Present+ So_Vang 00:10:40 urata_ACCESS has joined #auto 00:11:40 <_auto> _auto has joined #auto 00:12:00 Sven has joined #auto 00:12:05 sov has joined #auto 00:12:22 zakim, next agendum 00:12:22 agendum 1. "Summarize F2F" taken up [from ted] 00:12:52 [Adam reviews agenda] 00:12:54 q+ to talk about the minutes permission 00:13:10 kaz, you wanted to talk about the minutes permission 00:14:53 Kaz: we should clarify meeting minutes, we discussed at F2F switching to public like the WG but should ratify 00:15:01 Adam: good point, will cover at the end 00:15:16 -> https://www.w3.org/2015/04/24-auto-minutes.html BG F2F minutes 00:15:40 <_auto> _auto has left #auto 00:15:59 Adam: we were hosted by Genivi, covered quite a few areas including what future focus and subteams we will form 00:16:02 Davis has joined #auto 00:17:36 ... it is important to understand the differences between the two groups 00:18:51 ... the WG's focus is solely on the vehicle and data specs. there will be some overlap in the area of privacy and security 00:19:11 ... the BG will initially go into LBS and Media tuner 00:19:53 ... the work, actual deliverables will be determined as the BG progress 00:21:48 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-autowebplatform/2015May/0005.html Draft CfP for joint Security and Privacy TF 00:25:27 [discussion on draft cfp and next steps] 00:26:15 Adam: he is seeking questions and comments for now, a final version announcement will go out to public lists and elsewhere 00:26:47 ... any questions on division of labor between the groups or in general? 00:27:36 ... once we get the BG's charter complete it would be more complete 00:28:14 https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/track/actions/open 00:28:39 and https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/track/actions/closed 00:28:51 action-3 00:28:51 action-3 -- Ted Guild to Draft a public blog cfp on joint security tf to run by group before announcing -- due 2015-04-30 -- OPEN 00:28:51 http://www.w3.org/auto/wg/track/actions/3 00:29:55 Adam: charter is progressing, I have some internal feedback and will run by Intel legal department 00:30:10 ... it covered LBS, Tuner and Security/Privacy 00:31:48 ... procedurally there is a 30 day period of review for both the individual participants and their organization's managers and legal departments 00:32:23 sakamto_JEITA has joined #auto 00:32:34 -> http://www.w3.org/community/autowebplatform/automotive-and-web-platform-business-group-charter/ Existing BG charter 00:34:00 Adam: concerning this [business] group, there was a suggestion for it to follow suite of the working group and do more in public 00:34:33 ... so the proposal is to change the process and send meeting minutes to the public list instead of the internal one 00:35:25 ... it will help people understand what work is taking place in this group. nobody at the f2f had objection, nor were there comments on the email I sent out for the group 00:35:49 ... as such unless someone speaks up on this call, we will switch the default to public 00:36:50 zakim, who is here? 00:36:50 sorry, kaz, I don't know what conference this is 00:36:52 On IRC I see sakamto_JEITA, Davis, sov, Sven, urata_ACCESS, JEITA_murakami, abramski, Zakim, RRSAgent, kaz, QingAn, ted, trackbot 00:37:44 rrsagent, make log public 00:37:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 00:37:57 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/27-auto-minutes.html kaz 00:38:04 Ted: if there is something you are hesitant to make public since you are unsure of whether you can make a specific statement public you can ask for it to be off the record 00:38:26 Adam: alright, we'll send this to the public 00:38:32 action-5? 00:38:32 action-5 -- Adam Abramski to Send f2f proposal to both mailing lists -- due 2015-04-30 -- CLOSED 00:38:32 http://www.w3.org/auto/wg/track/actions/5 00:39:07 Adam: there is an opportunity for the BG to meet F2F and the two groups to meet together 00:40:26 ... the next all members meeting for Genivi is in Seoul the 22nd and 23rd of October, we will hold a BG F2F meeting there then 00:41:19 ... the following week W3C is having their TPAC meeting and the WG will have its F2F the 26th and 27th. The BG will be invited to participate as well 00:41:30 i|action-5?|-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/internal-autowebplatform/2015May/0001.html Adam's message on communication policy for meeting minutes (internal)| 00:42:11 Sven: interesting, I need to confirm I can attend first 00:42:16 q+ 00:42:43 Adam: this is also a great opportunity to meet with Web of Things IG, Geo WG, WebAppSec, etc 00:43:44 ... it will help us further work of mutual interest such as having our Media Tuner subteam meet with the TV Controller API CG 00:44:16 ... those meetings can happen on various days that week with the exception of Wednesday with is their public Technical Plenary 00:44:39 ... I will send out a proposal and ask for feedback 00:44:55 q? 00:46:19 rrsagent, make log member 00:46:32 rrsagent, draft minutes 00:46:32 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/27-auto-minutes.html kaz 00:46:48 s/ alright, we'll send this to the public/ alright, we'll send this meeting's minutes to the public list and unless we hear objection before June 5th deadline we will do the same for future meetings/ 00:47:26 rrsagent, make log public 00:47:47 Adam: Phillipe from PSA made a presentation on LBS progress out of Genivi and are ready for an API with a number of use cases 00:47:47 rrsagent, draft minutes 00:47:47 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/27-auto-minutes.html kaz 00:48:52 ... we discussed taking the work from this Genivi group and start turning it into a javascript API, ensure we address their use cases, extend them as well and look at this from a web developer perspective 00:49:33 ... it was create from a native developer perspective. Philippe will be a part if not leading the subteam and Alibaba has expressed interest as well 00:50:23 ... Genivi will be making the necessary information public 00:51:26 zakim, take up agendum 6 00:51:26 agendum 6. "Editors" taken up [from ted] 00:52:33 Adam: we lost at least one of our editors from the BG, Kevron, and it is unsure if Justin will continue on the specs at the WG or will be available for Tuner and LBS editorial work 00:52:47 q+ 00:52:56 q- 00:53:46 ... this will be an opportunity for people to take on editor role for the work coming out of the BG 00:53:49 q+ to mention the implementation question from ACCESS and it should be handled within the WG 00:54:21 ... the Web & TV Interest Group, specifically their TV Controller API CG, is interested in helping us with this 00:54:50 Kaz: I attended one of this group's calls, asked them to consider the use cases generated by Genivi for automotive media tuning 00:55:25 ... they agreed and people interested in this group are welcome to participate in that CG including joining their calls 00:55:39 Ryan: we have access to the Genivi docs for the Tuner API? 00:55:46 Adam: yes, they made them public 00:56:28 Kaz: yes, we want to have people that have participated from the Genivi side be involved in the TV Controller API CG 00:56:47 Adam: is there someone who can be the single point of contact with that CG? 00:57:25 Kaz: good question 00:57:26 https://www.w3.org/community/tvapi/ 00:57:30 Bin Hu from AT&T 00:58:32 kaz: will send a message to Bin CCing you (Adam, Paul, PaulW, Ryan) to start the discussion 00:58:58 s/AT&T/AT&T is the Chair of the TV Control API CG/ 00:59:07 Present+ Dave_Mitchell 00:59:19 Ryan: Dave Mitchel from Pandora I believe is interested as well 01:00:03 @@@: we collected a number of use cases from internet radio providers 01:00:17 abramski has joined #auto 01:00:24 ... there are quite a few similarities between all the applications, some gaps in TV 01:00:46 ... we want to cover AM, FM, XM, Internet, TV 01:00:47 ryan from Iheartradio 01:00:56 s/@@@/Ryan/ 01:01:16 ... we have a wiki that I believe everyone here should have access to 01:01:54 zakim, who is here? 01:01:54 sorry, kaz, I don't know what conference this is 01:01:54 ... we have received specs from Genivi for radio tuner stuff and have been comparing across 01:01:56 On IRC I see abramski, sakamto_JEITA, Davis, sov, Sven, urata_ACCESS, JEITA_murakami, Zakim, RRSAgent, kaz, QingAn, ted, trackbot 01:02:26 Adam: the TV group is interested in furthering the spec work with our use cases and input 01:02:52 ... we can focus on our more specific use cases, help them understand them, review and contribute 01:03:47 -> http://wiki.projects.genivi.org/index.php/IVI_Radio_Use_cases Genivi's Radio Use Cases 01:04:57 Adam: I see this more as explaining our use cases 01:05:37 Dave: I am looking forward to getting caught up 01:07:26 q? 01:07:29 ack k 01:07:29 kaz, you wanted to mention the implementation question from ACCESS and it should be handled within the WG 01:08:43 kaz: will remind the WG side as well 01:09:14 Adam: yes, ok to bring that to WG 01:09:18 [adjourned] 01:09:23 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:09:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/05/27-auto-minutes.html ted