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14:14:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Education and Outreach Working Group Teleconference
14:14:07 <trackbot> Date: 13 May 2015
14:14:23 <yatil> Chair: Shawn
14:16:06 <yatil> Scribe: yatil
14:16:14 <yatil> Scribe: EricE
14:16:19 <yatil> scribenick:
14:16:21 <yatil> scribenick: yatil
14:16:35 <yatil> Topic: Introductions around the table
14:16:51 <yatil> [Everyone introducing themselves]
14:18:15 <yatil> present: Brent, Kevin, Wayne, Sharron, Wilco, EricE, Howard, James_Green, Shawn
14:18:33 <yatil> Topic: Agenda
14:18:55 <yatil> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/EOWG_F2F_May_2015
14:22:23 <yatil> Topic: Quickref User Feedback
14:22:58 <yatil> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/UT_May_2015/Session_Feedback/Quickref -> Quickref User Feedback
14:26:38 <shawn> q+ to say floating left menu
14:28:34 <shawn> q+ to ask if people found search and filter
14:33:41 <shawn> SME - went back and forth between filter dialog and main interface to try to figure out what had happened & what had changed
14:34:07 <shawn> s/SME /SME[Brent's]
14:35:58 <shawn> ISSUE: links that go out vs expand
14:35:58 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-2 - Links that go out vs expand.  Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/track/issues/2/edit>.
14:37:17 <shawn> q+ to say later -- tangent: line length
14:37:37 <yatil> No tangents, shawn!
14:46:51 <yatil> present + Shadi
14:52:52 <yatil> s/present + Shadi//
14:52:56 <yatil> present+ Shadi
14:53:36 <shawn> q+ to say techniques (description from top of previous)
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15:09:36 <shawn> q+ to say 101 first
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16:01:28 <kevin> q?
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16:39:15 <yatil> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:39:57 <yatil> s/Scribe: yatil//
16:41:14 <yatil> s/No tangents, shawn!//
16:41:30 <yatil> topic: WCAG Report Tool Feedback
16:45:42 <yatil> q+ to say that I had another participant.
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17:53:39 <yatil> ack y
17:53:39 <Zakim> yatil, you wanted to say that I had another participant.
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19:14:46 <Wayne> This methodology describes the steps that are common to processes for comprehensive evaluation of the extent of conformance of websites.
19:15:38 <Wayne> This wording is not as important as the concept that what EM gives you is more important than the fact that it comes from EM.
19:16:29 <Wayne> The EM methodology should be built into the text and to explain the workflow.
19:23:20 <yatil> +1 Wayne!
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20:59:02 <shawn> ack shawn
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20:59:34 <shawn> ack shawn
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21:16:13 <shawn> q+ James
21:16:19 <shawn> q+ Shawn
21:16:24 <shawn> q+ Wilco
21:16:28 <shawn> q+shadi
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21:17:16 <yatil> Topic: Roadmap Feedback
21:17:46 <yatil> [Tangential discussion about short-time help.]
21:18:17 <shawn> s/[Tangential/[loooong Tangential
21:18:24 <shawn> ack j
21:18:39 <yatil> s/[loooong Tangential/[important loooong Tangential
21:19:02 <shawn> ack shawn
21:20:02 <yatil> Shawn: I think we got that in the “Improving” document!
21:20:04 <shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/impl/improving#strategic
21:20:07 <yatil> Eric: I agree.
21:21:02 <shawn> q?
21:21:16 <shawn> ack shadi
21:21:49 <yatil> Wayne: Starting a long term plan is one of the best risk mitigation help.
21:22:18 <yatil> Shadi: I don’t think telling people that starting with a plan is helping too much.
21:22:59 <shawn> ack wilco
21:23:16 <yatil> … I don’t think we have that content, not the three week timeframe, but it is going into the right direction.
21:24:14 <yatil> Wilco: There are orgs that need to monkey patch but you have to make sure that it doesn’t stop there, there should be something that is setting you up to get the long term planning started.
21:25:54 <yatil> s/I don’t think telling people that starting with a plan is helping too much./I don’t think just telling people that starting with a plan is helping too much, we need short-time solutions as well.
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21:41:57 <yatil> s/yatil, you wanted to say that I had another participant.//
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21:43:25 <yatil> s|https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/UT_May_2015/Session_Feedback/Quickref -> Quickref User Feedback|-> Quickref User Feedback https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/UT_May_2015/Session_Feedback/Quickref
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21:44:55 <yatil> Topic: Video
21:46:07 <yatil> Shadi: We had feedback and have updated the video. We want also highlight cross-benefits, make accessibility more tangible and innovative. Demonstrate broader benefits. Also technical things, for example audio descriptions.
21:46:44 <yatil> … Focus on designers and devs changed to more general audience that is unaware of the importance of accessibility.
21:47:43 <yatil> … Videos are accompanied by text, the stories are text and videos. 2-3 paragraphs, 30-40 seconds.
21:47:59 <shawn> q+ to say longer text stories and short video clip
21:48:26 <yatil> … Format: Have some kind of a punch line would help.
21:51:47 <yatil> ack shawn
21:51:47 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say longer text stories and short video clip
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21:54:23 <shawn> ack me
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