IRC log of i18n on 2015-04-23
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-irc
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- trackbot, prepare teleconference
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 4186
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- ok, trackbot; I see I18N_WG()10:00AM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
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- Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 23 April 2015
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2015Apr/0025.html
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- Chair: Addison Phillips
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- ScribeNick: aphillip
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- zakim, this is I18N
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- ok, aphillip; that matches I18N_WG()10:00AM
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- zakim, dial richard
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- ok, r12a; the call is being made
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- +Richard
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- zakim, ??P30 is David
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- +David; got it
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- zakim, who's present?
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- I don't understand your question, r12a.
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- zakim, who's here?
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- On the phone I see Steve_Atkin, Leandro, David, aphillip, Richard
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- On IRC I see RRSAgent, aphillip, Leandro, David, Steve_Atkin, fsasaki, r12a, trackbot, koji
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- Topic: Agenda
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- Topic: Action Items
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- +JcK
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- agenda+ Encoding
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- action-364?
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- action-364 -- Richard Ishida to Document how "sticky" language negotiation is done in our pages as an article -- due 2014-11-07 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/364
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
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- action-426?
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- action-426 -- Richard Ishida to Ask at domain meeting about whether webvtt will be used for tv and cinema -- due 2015-04-02 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/426
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- richard: intended for use in browsers with media, not tv or cinema
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- ... usage is similar to TV
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- close action-426
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- Closed action-426.
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- tv usage scenarios are worth passing on to VTT folks
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- action-434?
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- action-434 -- Addison Phillips to Write to klreq editors seeking response on current edits and possible future participation -- due 2015-04-23 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/434
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- close action-434?
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- Closed action-434.
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- action-435?
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- action-435 -- Richard Ishida to Publish new wd of ltli -- due 2015-04-23 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/435
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- close action-435
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- Closed action-435.
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- close action-436
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- Closed action-436.
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- Topic: Info Share
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- richard: preparing a document about mongolian variant forms
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- ... working with Greg Eck who is working on latest proposal on variants
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- ... as well as experts in china
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- richard: this document takes three main sources
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- ... one by chinese prof, one by unicode, and one put together in jan 2013
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- ... for each character in mongolian block you get the three forms
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- ... and then see what fonts actually do
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- ... and hope to add other major fonts
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- http://rishida.io/scripts/mongolian/variants
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- Topic: RADAR and Active Work Review
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- https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
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- s/http://rishida.io/scripts/mongolian/variants/http://r12a.github.io/scripts/mongolian/variants/
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- steve: take generating JSON
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- richard: reviewed a very early one of these
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- ... had quite a lot of bidi concern at the time
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- http://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs-dynamic
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- richard: try using as a checklist??
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- steve: also web payments use cases
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- https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar
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- JcK: URNbis progress slow, may move to another venue
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- richard: please add KLReq to wg documents
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- ... and point to github
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- action: addison: create article about the time zone proposal
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- Created ACTION-437 - Create article about the time zone proposal [on Addison Phillips - due 2015-04-30].
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- ILReq
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- richard: got some feedback from somnath and hopefully will get some html from him soon
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- agenda?
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- Topic: Encoding
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- richard: were thinking we had a couple months on CR period
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- http://www.w3.org/International/docs/encoding/encoding-cr-doc.html
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- richard: potentially last month...
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- ... above are comments and dispositions
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- ... if we published a new WD with whatwg's edits
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- ... we would go back to before LC
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- ... addison and I will talk to PLH about what to do
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- http://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/encoding-1
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- richard: worked on tests, what's available
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- ... quite a few tests don't pass
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- ... need more tests
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- ... there are some not on above page
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- ... but need others
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- ... things moving/changing
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- ... but not sure what next steps should be
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- s/worked on tests/looked at tests and checked whether they work on browsers/
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- Topic: /TR stylesheets?
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2015Apr/0022.html
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- https://github.com/w3c/tr-design/issues
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- addison: update style sheets once per year (or regularly)
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- ... any comments?
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- richard: there is an issues list
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- ... please raise issue if you have something you'd like to suggest on how to improve technical reports
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- ... one topic is line lengths
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- Topic: public knowledge base materials for use on w3c site
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- http://www.inter-locale.com/w3c/grc
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- richard: why are we creating a github
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- ... worried there are adobe specific things here
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- leandro: best if we edited
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- ... review the content and see what is useful
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- ... not to post as-is
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- action: leandro: edit GRC documents, create a github in your account, add top material, and bring to WG for review
- 14:48:18 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-438 - Edit grc documents, create a github in your account, add top material, and bring to wg for review [on Leandro Reis - due 2015-04-30].
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- Topic: Best Practices when writing Specifications
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- http://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs-dynamic
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- http://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/
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- http://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev/
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- -Leandro
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- richard: member list email?
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- action: addison: send message to member list polling for document priority so we can schedule actions
- 14:59:13 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-439 - Send message to member list polling for document priority so we can schedule actions [on Addison Phillips - due 2015-04-30].
- 14:59:49 [aphillip]
- richard: specdev and charmod would be on my suggested list
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- Topic: AOB?
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- -David
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- -Steve_Atkin
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- -aphillip
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- -JcK
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- I18N_WG()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were +1.813.410.aaaa, Leandro, aphillip, Richard, David, Steve_Atkin, JcK
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- zakim, bye
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- Regrets: Felix
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- Scribe: Addison Phillips
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: addison: create article about the time zone proposal [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-irc#T14-27-37
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- ACTION: leandro: edit GRC documents, create a github in your account, add top material, and bring to WG for review [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-irc#T14-48-17
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- ACTION: addison: send message to member list polling for document priority so we can schedule actions [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/23-i18n-irc#T14-59-13