11:46:21 RRSAgent has joined #dwbp 11:46:21 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/04/10-dwbp-irc 11:46:23 RRSAgent, make logs 351 11:46:23 Zakim has joined #dwbp 11:46:25 Zakim, this will be DWBP 11:46:25 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot 11:46:26 Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference 11:46:26 Date: 10 April 2015 12:14:32 deirdrelee_ has joined #dwbp 12:26:27 yaso1 has joined #dwbp 12:49:51 yaso1 has joined #dwbp 12:50:27 annette_g has joined #dwbp 12:52:37 yaso1 has joined #dwbp 12:55:22 yaso1 has left #dwbp 12:55:40 yaso1 has joined #dwbp 12:55:41 deirdrelee has joined #dwbp 12:57:41 riccardoAlbertoni has joined #DWBP 12:57:59 Caroline_ has joined #DWBP 12:58:31 trackbot, start meeting 12:58:33 RRSAgent, make logs 351 12:58:35 Zakim, this will be DWBP 12:58:35 ok, trackbot, I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM already started 12:58:36 Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference 12:58:36 Date: 10 April 2015 12:58:44 hi all ! 12:58:52 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:59:05 +yaso 12:59:15 Zakim, Yaso has newton 12:59:15 +newton; got it 12:59:23 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150410 12:59:27 + +1.509.554.aabb 12:59:31 zakim, who is here? 12:59:33 On the phone I see +39.349.096.aaaa, [IPcaller], yaso, +1.509.554.aabb 12:59:33 yaso has newton 12:59:33 On IRC I see Caroline_, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, yaso1, annette_g, Zakim, RRSAgent, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot 12:59:39 zakim, ipcaller is me 12:59:39 +deirdrelee; got it 12:59:49 newton has joined #dwbp 13:00:00 zakim, +39.349.096.aaaa is me 13:00:00 +riccardoAlbertoni; got it 13:00:09 Zakim, yaso1 has newton 13:00:09 sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso1' 13:00:13 chair: deirdrelee 13:00:21 ericstephan has joined #dwbp 13:00:24 scribe: ericstephan 13:00:33 zakim, who is here? 13:00:33 On the phone I see riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, yaso, +1.509.554.aabb 13:00:36 yaso has newton 13:00:36 On IRC I see ericstephan, newton, Caroline_, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, yaso1, annette_g, Zakim, RRSAgent, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot 13:00:58 + +1.510.384.aacc 13:00:58 deirdre, I could not finish the Glossary :-/ 13:02:00 zakim, who is here? 13:02:00 On the phone I see riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, yaso, +1.509.554.aabb, +1.510.384.aacc 13:02:02 yaso has newton 13:02:02 On IRC I see ericstephan, newton, Caroline_, riccardoAlbertoni, deirdrelee, yaso1, annette_g, Zakim, RRSAgent, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot 13:02:15 zakim, aabb is me 13:02:15 +ericstephan; got it 13:02:21 +yaso.a 13:02:34 Zakim, yaso.a is Caroline_ 13:02:34 +Caroline_; got it 13:02:54 zakim, aacc is me 13:02:54 +annette_g; got it 13:03:03 sure .. 13:03:11 agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150410 13:03:15 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150410 13:03:52 cgueret has joined #dwbp 13:03:53 PROPOSED: approve last meeting minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-03-27 13:04:01 +??P20 13:04:02 +1 13:04:04 +1 13:04:05 +1 13:04:06 zakim, ??P20 is me 13:04:06 +cgueret; got it 13:04:07 +1 13:04:10 +1 13:04:10 zakim, mute me 13:04:10 cgueret should now be muted 13:04:14 +1 13:04:30 hello cgueret ! 13:04:38 +1 13:04:38 RESOLVED: approve last meeting minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-03-27 13:05:20 AdrianoC has joined #dwbp 13:05:22 deirdrelee: schedules in the wiki for the f2f meeting, editors need to review and revise as necessary 13:05:37 topic: delieverable timelines 13:05:39 BP Schedule: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_Document_Schedule 13:05:50 DQ Schedule: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_schedule 13:06:02 DU Schedule: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule 13:06:19 Newton is online also! :) 13:06:38 Bernadette sent regrets because she was coming back from a trip! 13:06:42 deirdrelee: could we discuss and update the schedule as necessary? 13:06:58 yes! 13:07:00 q+ 13:09:42 Topic: Agree on agenda for F2F ( 13:09:49 topic: Agenda for the face to face 13:09:58 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/April_2015_F2F 13:10:25 deirdrelee: the goal as chairs to make progress on all the documents. 13:10:44 +??P24 13:11:09 Zakim, ??P24 is AdrianoC 13:11:09 +AdrianoC; got it 13:11:24 deirdrelee: we want to move forward on the bp document, iterating over the draft. We need to get first working drafts in about a month from now. To aim for that we need to be really concrete. 13:12:11 deirdrelee: Two half days to the vocabularies, the bp document discussions is split up because of availaility of the dq team. 13:13:00 deirdrelee: We've tried to discuss the issues under a common topic for the bp document. Issues are in the issue tracker. 13:13:49 deirdrelee: for the dq document, the dq team has been moving forward, getting input and discussing scoping of metrics and what the vocabulary should contain. 13:14:48 deirdrelee: For the F2F antoine has highlighted different topics that we will discuss, the Data usage vocabulary will be discussed as well. 13:14:53 q+ 13:15:04 ack ericstephan 13:15:06 ack deirdrelee 13:15:19 deirdrelee: what do you think of the agenda? 13:15:28 q+ 13:15:33 q+ 13:15:36 ack ericstephan 13:16:08 ericstephan: the data usage team are very short-handed 13:16:17 .. would like to invite others to participate 13:17:00 nathalia has joined #dwbp 13:17:17 Zakim, yaso has nathalia 13:17:17 +nathalia; got it 13:17:40 q+ 13:17:41 q? 13:18:18 ack annette_g 13:18:42 annette_g: there were a few new bp that were never documented as an issue, can we find them and bring them forward? 13:19:22 annette_g: The data enrichment was one for example that wasn't brought forward. 13:19:58 deirdrelee: Create an issue for each one that was discusssed before but undecided we should proceed. 13:20:02 ack newton 13:20:06 q? 13:20:27 can't hear question? 13:21:08 newton: How are we going to organize ourselves during the meeting? Should we split into groups as we did in London? 13:21:17 Newton wants to suggest that we split in groups 13:21:32 because the thinks is more effective and he wants to work in some sections 13:21:43 q+ 13:21:44 newton: I would like to work on implementations or break into focus groups? 13:21:46 +[IPcaller] 13:21:52 -[IPcaller] 13:22:03 About data enrichment our group (AdrianoC, AdrianoV, Gisele, Wagner) has prepared a document about it and we want to present. 13:22:17 CarlosIglesias has joined #dwbp 13:22:52 deirdrelee: In terms of splitting into groups, if there arent that many of us anyway it might be harder for us to split efforts at least in the beginning. We might consider it as the F2F goes on... 13:23:06 q+ 13:23:08 +[IPcaller] 13:24:10 deirdrelee: It isn't fair to focus on bp that have no open issues, we need to focus on the issues to help focus on the problem areas. 13:24:28 zakim, [IPcaller] is me 13:24:28 +CarlosIglesias; got it 13:24:40 I second deirdrelee's proposal about not to split in group at least at the very beginning of the F2F .. 13:24:46 q? 13:24:52 deirdrelee: for time keeping, to address each one, we have a maximum of 15 minutes per issue. We need to keep on track. 13:25:01 ack yaso1 13:25:08 ack yaso 13:25:16 ack Caroline_ 13:26:22 Caroline_: It is very important to close the issues, but I want to let everyone know, that Bernadette is providing updated documents in Github by Monday. It would be nice for people to focus on examples in the BP document 13:27:21 Caroline_: regarding issues that we resolved already. 13:28:06 deirdrelee: if you want to create an issue we can include it on the agenda as well. 13:28:12 q+ 13:28:34 Create Issue: Decide how examples are included in bp doc 13:28:56 Overview of BP Issues & Comments: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aqkh8jJCyHn0GaPk3Xh277b5L1bQjfwDHukmWUTWryg/edit 13:29:19 q+ 13:29:42 ack ericstephan 13:30:24 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open 13:31:17 Can I create the issue? 13:31:28 you should write: trackbot, issue 13:31:44 ack Caroline_ 13:32:09 thank you, yaso! 13:32:11 Caroline_: It would be very important to read the BP document again before the meeting so it is fresh on your mind. 13:32:13 trackbot, issue: Decide how examples are included in bp doc 13:32:33 Use Case document should be reviewed as well! 13:32:43 ISSUE: Decide how examples are included in bp doc 13:32:43 Created ISSUE-150 - Decide how examples are included in bp doc. Please complete additional details at . 13:32:56 topic: wg scope 13:33:02 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Scope 13:33:46 q+ 13:33:54 deirdrelee: If a person goes out of scope, we need to stop the discussion to keep the discussion on track 13:34:35 deirdrelee: The DWBP metadata document should focus on data of any format, structured format, but not discuss a particular format. 13:35:05 +1 13:35:18 deirdrelee: All of the discussions about a technology is out of scope, using examples are ok to illustrate something. 13:35:35 +1 to deirdrelee 13:35:40 q? 13:35:54 ack AdrianoC 13:37:03 AdrianoC: I am here to explain about the data enrichment process during the F2F meeting. Discuss our approaches 13:37:53 Ok, perfect! Thanks! 13:37:54 deirdrelee: Yes AdrianoC we need to create an issue for that. 13:38:06 deirdrelee: 15 MINUTES PER ISSUE FOLKS 13:38:18 :-) 13:38:47 topic: glossary 13:39:13 ISSUE: Debating about the insertion of the data enrichment work of InWeb (UFMG) on the deliverables of the WG 13:39:13 Created ISSUE-151 - Debating about the insertion of the data enrichment work of inweb (ufmg) on the deliverables of the wg. Please complete additional details at . 13:39:15 deirdrelee: Ideas keep coming up, it is a barrier for moving forward. 13:39:34 deirdrelee: yaso1 is writing first draft by the f2f 13:39:51 yaso1: Yes that is correct 13:40:34 deirdrelee: We can use the glossary as a common place to point to for definitions 13:40:36 +1 13:40:38 q? 13:40:41 +1 13:40:47 +1 13:40:59 +1 13:41:14 topic: Close all Actions 13:41:25 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open 13:45:23 newton_ has joined #dwbp 13:45:56 deirdrelee_ has joined #dwbp 13:45:56 rhiaro_ has joined #dwbp 13:46:00 test 13:46:20 deirdrelee, should I close the action here on IRC or by email? 13:46:47 ericstephan_ has joined #dwbp 13:47:17 scribe: ericstephan_ 13:47:30 annette_g has joined #dwbp 13:48:02 pong 13:48:11 deirdrelee_: In terms of the vocabulary and comments, does this exist in the issue tracker? Not yet 13:49:32 deirdrelee_: If there are issues being recorded in google docs, this isn't being tracked in the issue tracker. They need to be transferred to the issue tracker. 13:50:33 deirdrelee_: carlos was saying that he had some comments that had not been addressed, and deirdrelee_ was wondering if those issues need to be put in the issue tracker? 13:51:22 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open 13:51:54 deirdrelee_: Carlos action for you, put any issues in the issue tracker, these are the only ones being discussed during the f2f 13:52:29 btw, The document on google was https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ecwweAM5t4UVFEjcXnFhXmCUBnRDvwZ1smRLtiKkBEI/edit#heading=h.oa5hnn7ctefr 13:52:47 CLOSE ACTION: 112 13:52:50 +q 13:53:17 -cgueret 13:53:40 newton_: Comment on comments in google documents, Bernadette has put Carlos comments in the BP document, I think so 13:54:13 close action -112 13:54:20 CarlosIglesias has joined #dwbp 13:54:33 trackbot, close action-112 13:54:34 Closed action-112. 13:54:56 q? 13:55:01 ack newton_ 13:55:02 deirdrelee_: look over the bp document, data usage vocabulary, the issues prior to the meeting 13:55:22 Sorry... Whats the number of the other action to close, deirdrelee_? 13:55:38 * need hep with issue tracker 13:55:55 trackbot, close action-145 13:55:55 Closed action-145. 13:56:19 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/new 13:57:11 I think issues 151 and 152 deal with the same subject 13:58:40 have a good week end! 13:58:43 -annette_g 13:58:44 -ericstephan 13:58:46 -yaso 13:58:46 -deirdrelee 13:58:48 -CarlosIglesias 13:58:49 -riccardoAlbertoni 13:58:51 bye! 13:58:57 -Caroline_ 13:59:06 yaso1 has left #dwbp 13:59:40 -AdrianoC 13:59:41 DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended 13:59:41 Attendees were newton, +1.509.554.aabb, deirdrelee, riccardoAlbertoni, +1.510.384.aacc, ericstephan, yaso, Caroline_, annette_g, cgueret, AdrianoC, nathalia, CarlosIglesias 16:19:54 Zakim has left #dwbp 16:42:35 annette_g has joined #dwbp