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13:59:10 <aphillip> trackbot, prepare teleconference
13:59:12 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
13:59:14 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
13:59:15 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_WG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
13:59:15 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:59:15 <trackbot> Date: 09 April 2015
13:59:23 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2015Apr/0006.html
13:59:35 <aphillip> Regrets: Dennis, David, Steve
13:59:37 <r12a> zakim, this will be i18n
13:59:37 <Zakim> "i18n" matches I18N_WG()10:00AM, and I18N_BPMLOD()10:00AM, r12a
13:59:47 <aphillip> Regrets+ JcK
13:59:50 <r12a> zakim, this will be i18n_wg
13:59:50 <Zakim> ok, r12a; I see I18N_WG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
14:00:11 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
14:00:11 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:00:12 <Zakim> I18N_WG()10:00AM has now started
14:00:13 <Zakim> +Richard
14:00:33 <Zakim> +aphillip
14:00:40 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
14:00:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, aphillip
14:00:42 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, fantasai, koji, trackbot
14:01:58 <Leandro> Leandro has joined #i18n
14:02:30 <xiaoqian> xiaoqian has joined #i18n
14:03:01 <Zakim> +Leandro
14:03:10 <xiaoqian> zakim, call xiaoqian-mobile
14:03:10 <Zakim> ok, xiaoqian; the call is being made
14:03:11 <Zakim> +Xiaoqian
14:03:33 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
14:03:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, aphillip, Leandro, Xiaoqian
14:03:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see xiaoqian, Leandro, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, fantasai, koji, trackbot
14:03:59 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
14:04:49 <r12a> agenda+ Character encodings for beginners
14:05:02 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
14:06:51 <aphillip> close action-377
14:06:51 <trackbot> Closed action-377.
14:07:33 <aphillip> close action-396
14:07:33 <trackbot> Closed action-396.
14:07:50 <r12a> agenda+ Korean layout status
14:08:33 <aphillip> action-419?
14:08:33 <trackbot> action-419 -- Addison Phillips to Remind working group to review the bp draft and supply comments on existing materials, volunteer to add materials, or provide other comments -- due 2015-03-26 -- OPEN
14:08:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/419
14:09:52 <aphillip> close action-423
14:09:52 <trackbot> Closed action-423.
14:10:53 <aphillip> close action-428
14:10:53 <trackbot> Closed action-428.
14:11:02 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
14:11:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:11:36 <aphillip> Topic: RADAR and Active Work Review
14:11:46 <aphillip>     https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
14:13:01 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar
14:14:51 <aphillip> chinese layout requirements
14:15:03 <aphillip> xiaoqian: released to chinese community last week
14:15:06 <aphillip> ... have a few comments
14:15:14 <aphillip> ... working on english translation
14:15:32 <aphillip> ... fpwd released to this group and non-chinese speakers by end of this month we hope!
14:16:13 <aphillip> general test development
14:16:28 <aphillip> richard: did pull request for large set of new tests and they were merged!
14:17:11 <aphillip> predefined counter styles
14:17:29 <aphillip> richard: need to find a name for our document
14:17:39 <aphillip> agenda+ find a name for predefined counter styles note
14:18:04 <aphillip> general article development
14:18:22 <aphillip> richard: getting started material was updated so we can get translated
14:19:09 <aphillip> agenda?
14:19:32 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:19:32 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Character encodings for beginners" taken up [from r12a]
14:19:38 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-what-is-encoding
14:19:50 <aphillip> richard: was going to prep for translation
14:19:55 <aphillip> ... but it's out of date
14:20:06 <aphillip> ... we updated our materials to strongly suggest "use UTF-8"
14:20:16 <aphillip> ... and downplay all legacy encodings
14:20:20 <aphillip> ... and while fixing that...
14:20:26 <aphillip> ... make other editorial changes
14:20:31 <aphillip> ... above link is result
14:20:43 <aphillip> ... don't think needs wide review
14:21:58 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2015/04/09/updated-article-character-encodings-for-beginners/
14:22:33 <aphillip> addison: if you see something you don't like, send a note to richard
14:22:39 <aphillip> agenda?
14:22:56 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:22:56 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Korean layout status" taken up [from r12a]
14:23:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:23:15 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/42
14:23:47 <aphillip> richard: about a year ago one contributor suggested fixes in tracker
14:24:06 <aphillip> ... so yesterday spent time working on implementing those while porting to github
14:24:15 <aphillip> ... closed the related tracker issues
14:24:25 <aphillip> ... but can still see open issues unreplied
14:24:42 <aphillip> ... try to contact authors to reactivate?
14:24:58 <aphillip> ... chinese experience with github has been good so far
14:25:10 <aphillip> ... FPWD we published is now out of date
14:25:15 <aphillip> ... can we approve a new version?
14:25:32 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/klreq/
14:25:46 <aphillip> chair: please indicate support (+1) or non support (-1) of publishing new WD of Korean Layout Requirements
14:26:11 <aphillip> richard: only small changes (a few pictures corrected, section removed, small edit changes)
14:26:16 <r12a> +1
14:26:18 <aphillip> +1
14:26:31 <Leandro> +1
14:26:44 <xiaoqian> +1
14:26:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:26:53 <aphillip> chair: so resolved
14:27:18 <aphillip> action: richard: publish new WD of Korean Layout Requirements
14:27:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-429 - Publish new wd of korean layout requirements [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-04-16].
14:27:52 <aphillip> action: richard: contact editors of KLReq for comments and seeking additional support
14:27:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-430 - Contact editors of klreq for comments and seeking additional support [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-04-16].
14:28:02 <aphillip> agenda?
14:28:17 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:28:17 <Zakim> agendum 3. "find a name for predefined counter styles note" taken up [from aphillip]
14:28:36 <r12a> Ready-made Counter Style Templates
14:29:04 <r12a> International Counter Style Code
14:29:29 <aphillip> leandro: Counter Style Templates
14:30:03 <aphillip> richard: don't really cover Latin
14:30:18 <aphillip> ... er Latin script
14:31:55 <aphillip> richard: not really templates?
14:31:59 <aphillip> ... recipes?
14:33:49 <aphillip> Ready-to-use counter styles
14:35:01 <aphillip> action: richard: send new message to www-international looking for a name for our counter styles note
14:35:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-431 - Send new message to www-international looking for a name for our counter styles note [on Richard Ishida - due 2015-04-16].
14:35:20 <aphillip> richard: snippets?
14:36:01 <aphillip> Topic: TPAC logistics
14:36:24 <aphillip> richard: TPAC organizers want to know about rooms or not wanting room asap
14:36:45 <aphillip> ... probably don't want one? but chatted with xiaoqian and would maybe be good to have one for clreq
14:36:58 <aphillip> ... a couple more folks may come
14:37:01 <aphillip> ... small room?
14:37:27 <aphillip> xiaoqian: might be about five people to talk about clreq?
14:37:44 <aphillip> ... if possible, good to have similar session to tpac 2014
14:38:03 <aphillip> richard: is there a plan to have a meeting separtely?
14:38:19 <aphillip> s/separtely/separately/
14:38:44 <aphillip> xiaoqian: depends
14:39:03 <aphillip> ... no request for a separate room
14:39:29 <aphillip> ... (name) working on chinese ruby in mozilla and may attend
14:39:58 <aphillip> action: addison: amend our tpac WBS to request a room for TPAC
14:39:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-432 - Amend our tpac wbs to request a room for tpac [on Addison Phillips - due 2015-04-16].
14:40:35 <aphillip> Topic: Publish WD of Language Tags and Locale Identifiers (LTLI)
14:40:47 <aphillip> http://www.inter-locale.com/w3c/ltli/LTLI-20150211.html
14:41:12 <aphillip> http://www.inter-locale.com/w3c/ltli/LTLI-20150226.html
14:42:04 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/TR/ltli/
14:45:14 <aphillip> action: addison: send LTLI to richard for adding to github
14:45:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-433 - Send ltli to richard for adding to github [on Addison Phillips - due 2015-04-16].
14:46:27 <aphillip> richard: send an email when I've posted to github
14:46:34 <aphillip> addison: okay
14:46:42 <aphillip> Topic: Best practices with the W3C process
14:46:51 <aphillip>   https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-w3process/2015Apr/0000.html
14:50:11 <aphillip> addison: (summarizes)
14:56:59 <Leandro> Sorry folks, I have to leave now - talk to you next week
14:59:32 <aphillip> Topic:
14:59:37 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
14:59:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:00:20 <aphillip> richard: how long is a document likely to take to get to CR? that would be quite useful (6 months or 6 years?)
15:45:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:45:27 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
15:45:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, aphillip, Leandro, Xiaoqian
15:45:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see xiaoqian, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, fantasai, koji, trackbot
15:45:52 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
15:45:52 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
15:45:58 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
15:45:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, aphillip, Leandro, Xiaoqian
15:46:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see xiaoqian, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, r12a, fantasai, koji, trackbot
15:46:13 <r12a> zakim, drop aphillip
15:46:13 <Zakim> aphillip is being disconnected
15:46:20 <r12a> zakim, drop Leandro
15:46:20 <Zakim> Leandro is being disconnected
15:46:29 <r12a> zakim, drop Xiaoqian
15:46:29 <Zakim> Xiaoqian is being disconnected
15:46:39 <r12a> hmm
15:46:51 <r12a> i'll report on #sysreq
15:46:55 <aphillip> thanks
15:47:05 <aphillip> Present: Addison, Richard, Leandro, Xiaoqian
15:47:12 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:47:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:47:18 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
15:47:23 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
15:47:27 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
15:47:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:48:51 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
15:48:51 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-actions.rdf :
15:48:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: publish new WD of Korean Layout Requirements [1]
15:48:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-irc#T14-27-18
15:48:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: contact editors of KLReq for comments and seeking additional support [2]
15:48:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-irc#T14-27-52
15:48:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: send new message to www-international looking for a name for our counter styles note [3]
15:48:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-irc#T14-35-01
15:48:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: amend our tpac WBS to request a room for TPAC [4]
15:48:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-irc#T14-39-58
15:48:51 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: send LTLI to richard for adding to github [5]
15:48:51 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/04/09-i18n-irc#T14-45-14