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14:57:20 Zakim, this will be 2119
14:57:20 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 57 minutes ago
14:57:21 Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:57:21 Date: 26 March 2015
14:57:26 agenda?
14:57:31 zakim, call janina-mobile
14:57:31 ok, janina; the call is being made
14:57:33 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM has now started
14:57:33 +Janina
14:58:25 Chair: Chaals
14:58:25 agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
14:58:28 agenda+ Additional agenda?
14:58:31 agenda+ HTML AAM CfC Update -- Janina
14:58:33 agenda+ CfC on CfCs; Work Statement Update -- Janina, Chaals, Paul
14:58:36 agenda+ Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Janina
14:58:38 agenda+ Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam
14:58:41 agenda+ TF's EME Bug -- Janina, John https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27054
14:58:44 agenda+ Noteref Proposal David, John
14:58:46 agenda+ TF Open Actions http://w3.org/wai/pf/html/track
14:58:49 agenda+ Other Business
14:58:51 agenda+ Identify Chair and Scribe for the next TF teleconference http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
14:58:54 agenda+ be done
14:59:10 zakim, who's here?
14:59:11 On the phone I see Janina
14:59:13 On IRC I see RRSAgent, paulc, Joshue108, janina, ShaneM, LJWatson, sivoais, newtron, cabanier, joanie, liam, MarkS, trackbot
14:59:47 zakim, next item
14:59:47 agendum 1. "Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List" taken up [from janina]
15:00:44 zakim, what is the code?
15:00:44 the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
15:01:07 +[Microsoft]
15:01:18 +[IPcaller]
15:01:19 zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:01:19 +paulc; got it
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15:01:49 +Liam
15:02:14 zakim, [IPcaller] is me
15:02:14 +LJWatson; got it
15:02:29 +JF
15:02:52 +ShaneM
15:03:18 scribenick: LJWatson
15:04:18 +BrianKardell
15:04:23 zakim, who's here?
15:04:23 On the phone I see Janina, paulc, LJWatson, Liam, JF, ShaneM, BrianKardell
15:04:26 On IRC I see JF, Zakim, RRSAgent, paulc, Joshue108, janina, ShaneM, LJWatson, sivoais, newtron, cabanier, joanie, liam, MarkS, trackbot
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15:06:00 zakim, next item
15:06:00 agendum 2. "Additional agenda?" taken up [from janina]
15:06:25 JS: The F2F?
15:06:27 agenda+ face to face
15:06:29 regrets MarkS
15:06:41 zakim, [ip is me
15:06:41 +chaals; got it
15:06:47 zakim, close this item
15:06:47 agendum 2 closed
15:06:48 I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:06:48 3. HTML AAM CfC Update -- Janina [from janina]
15:07:01 zakim who is on the call?
15:07:18 zakim, who is here?
15:07:18 On the phone I see Janina, paulc, LJWatson, Liam, JF, ShaneM, BrianKardell, chaals
15:07:20 On IRC I see bkardell_, chaals, JF, Zakim, RRSAgent, paulc, Joshue108, janina, ShaneM, LJWatson, sivoais, newtron, cabanier, joanie, liam, MarkS, trackbot
15:07:27 JS: CFS C in the WG closes today. Hope we can get a timely decision on that.
15:07:35 PC: How will publication happen?
15:07:59 JS: Michael Cooper is working on it. He'll liaise with Robin.
15:08:04 s/CFS C/CFC/
15:08:19 zakim, close thie item
15:08:19 I don't understand 'close thie item', chaals
15:08:25 zakim, close this item
15:08:25 I do not know what agendum had been taken up, chaals
15:08:30 zakim, close item 3
15:08:30 agendum 3, HTML AAM CfC Update -- Janina, closed
15:08:31 I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:08:31 4. CfC on CfCs; Work Statement Update -- Janina, Chaals, Paul [from janina]
15:08:36 zakim, take up item 4
15:08:36 agendum 4. "CfC on CfCs; Work Statement Update -- Janina, Chaals, Paul" taken up [from janina]
15:09:06 CMN: I have an action to update the work statement. Anticipate doing this in the next couple of days.
15:10:08 CMN: Had CFC on harmonise CFCs between the TF and its parent WGs.
15:10:34 s/harmonise/harmonising/
15:12:08 zakim, close this item
15:12:08 agendum 4 closed
15:12:09 I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:12:09 5. Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Janina [from janina]
15:12:23 zakim, take up item 5
15:12:23 agendum 5. "Canvas 2D Level 1 Progress -- Rich, Janina" taken up [from janina]
15:12:54 JS: There has been communication with Domonic Mazzoni. Believe Google has hit regions in Chrome, but needs testing.
15:13:05 q+
15:13:16 ack pau
15:13:57 PC: The bugs Rich identified were on the previous features Google had implemented in Chrome, not hit region.
15:14:24 PC: The old stuff was tested, and there had apparently been no changes from the old implementation.
15:14:38 q+
15:14:42 sck me
15:15:03 ack chaals
15:15:04 CMN: Had requested keeping the TF list updated.
15:15:10 JS: Can do that.
15:15:11 s/sck me//ack me/
15:15:16 ack me
15:15:21 zakim, close this item
15:15:21 agendum 5 closed
15:15:22 I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:15:22 6. Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam [from janina]
15:15:34 rrsagent, make minutes
15:15:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/26-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:15:36 zakim, take up item 6
15:15:36 agendum 6. "Alt Doc Update -- Shane, Liam" taken up [from janina]
15:16:04 SM: Agreed last week to publish a note that said "we're not doing this".
15:16:14 LQ: Wrote up text for the note, it's with Janina.
15:16:34 http://www.w3.org/2015/03/alt-draft.html
15:16:48 JS: Haven't had time to review.
15:17:15 q+
15:17:19 q+
15:17:29 ack pau
15:17:30 LQ: Contacted Robin to ask about referencing the HTML5 spec in a way that will survive modularisation. No answer at present.
15:18:01 PC: There are references to picture element, editor names, copyright date etc. are not correct.
15:18:14 LQ: This isn't the right document. Perhaps something ailed. Will look into it.
15:18:31 s/perhaps something ailed/perhaps something failed/
15:18:48 zakin, close this item
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15:18:52 CMN: Can you sort this out this week?
15:19:01 LQ: Can do it today.
15:19:03 [Iwill fix the doc today]
15:19:18 PC: Will the TF do the CFC?
15:19:26 CMN: The TF will do it.
15:19:38 zakim, close this item
15:19:38 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, chaals
15:19:41 ack me
15:19:42 rrsagent, make minutes
15:19:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/26-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:19:46 zakim, close this item
15:19:46 agendum 6 closed
15:19:47 I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:19:47 7. TF's EME Bug -- Janina, John https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27054 [from janina]
15:19:59 zakim, take up item 7
15:19:59 agendum 7. "TF's EME Bug -- Janina, John https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=27054" taken up [from janina]
15:21:04 JF: Was a bug filed about @kind and encrypted content.
15:21:28 https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/commit/22f3514edfd78f31f78947c5a5cab3c2922e50e6
15:21:45 JF: Discussions were held, some changes have been made to the spec that should address these concerns. Would be good for someone to take a technical look to verify our concerns have been resolved.
15:22:12 LW: I'll take a look.
15:22:38 ACTION: Léonie to review bug 27054 and check it's OK
15:22:38 Created ACTION-312 - Review bug 27054 and check it's ok [on Léonie Watson - due 2015-04-02].
15:23:03 zakim, close this item
15:23:03 agendum 7 closed
15:23:04 I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:23:04 8. Noteref Proposal David, John [from janina]
15:23:12 zakim, take up item 8
15:23:12 agendum 8. "Noteref Proposal David, John" taken up [from janina]
15:23:36 +Cynthia_Shelly
15:23:41 JF: David MacDonald has a proposal for a flipnote element.
15:24:22 is there a link to this proposal? I just joined late yesterday, so it would be helpful
15:24:22 JF: This is one of a number of items where we have things to do, but don't have dates or timetables for moving things forward.
15:24:33 q+ to ask whether Dpub-IG is still discussing this
15:24:49 s/flipnote/footnote
15:24:55 ack ja
15:24:55 janina, you wanted to ask whether Dpub-IG is still discussing this
15:25:04 CMN: These are our work items.
15:25:14 JS: Is any monitoring dPub?
15:25:25 SM: They're not discussing notes at the moment.
15:25:26 Q+
15:25:32 ack jf
15:25:48 +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:25:54 q+
15:26:01 q+ to talk about dpub work on note / noteref
15:26:15 q- later
15:26:18 ack sha
15:26:18 ShaneM, you wanted to talk about dpub work on note / noteref
15:26:21 JF: I believe David has been monitoring dPub. My impression is we're ready to present this, just need to know who, where and when.
15:26:53 Q+
15:26:56 SM: Have dropped the dPub chair a note to ask for time. They don't have spare time right now though. Would like their sign-off.
15:27:11 ack me
15:27:31 CMN: As well as dPub review, it would be good for us to collectively review it as well.
15:27:36 ack jf
15:27:41 agenda?
15:28:12 JF: Do we need to bring it into W3C format/style more?
15:28:18 CMN: Let's focus on the content first.
15:28:26 rrsagent, make minutes
15:28:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/26-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:28:35 [Liam also following dpub footnote stuff fairly closely]
15:28:58 zakim, take up item 13
15:28:58 agendum 13. "face to face" taken up [from chaals]
15:29:26 CMN: The offer of meeting space in Zaragoza is still open for the w/c 13th April if the TF wants to meet.
15:30:14 -ShaneM
15:30:21 CMN: W/c 13th April is possible, but was thinking of mid-June.
15:30:33 RS: Looking into the timing on that.
15:30:41 +ShaneM
15:31:21 CMN: Zaraagoza is in Spain.
15:31:31 CS: Could not make Europe mid-June, but possibly later.
15:31:49 I could not do june.
15:32:38 CS: Could do Seattle, since there anyway.
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15:32:59 Can do Seattle in April or Zaragoza in June.
15:33:42 I would prefer canada. then I could even make something in june because I wouldn't miss critical weekend activities
15:34:17 CMN: Anyone thinks a F2F is either a good or bad idea?
15:34:26 Q+
15:34:27 CS: Could people make Seattle?
15:34:33 CMN: Possibly.
15:34:44 q+
15:34:56 ack jf
15:35:14 q+
15:35:24 ack pa
15:35:24 PC: Have two rooms blocked for the w/c 13th April. Have to release what I don't need next week before the TF call. If you want to make use of the facilities, need to know today if possible.
15:35:26 ack cy
15:35:34 q+ jf
15:35:56 PC: Media TF meets on the Wed and Thu that week.
15:35:59 ack jf
15:36:31 JF: Yes, there is value in the TF getting together. April is easier for me. North America in June might also be possible, but my time gets constrained after that.
15:36:52 CMN: Should know tomorrow whether I'll be able to travel and if Seattle is a possibility.
15:37:20 CMN: Can you hold the room until tomorrow?
15:37:24 PC: Yes.
15:37:55 I dont know if anyone here is planning on attending the Extensible Web Summit in April, but there are opportunities/space to meetup unofficially there
15:38:01 PC: If the TF could provide an indicaion of how many people, I'll take this offline. Need dates confirmation too.
15:38:17 CMN: Overlap with the Media TF - Wed and Thu.
15:38:31 so 15-16 April?
15:38:44 RS: What topics would we cover if in April?
15:38:49 I think 8-9 April
15:39:12 CMN: Transcript is an obvious one, since the Media TF will be there.
15:39:19 rrsagent, make minutes
15:39:19 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/26-html-a11y-minutes.html LJWatson
15:39:37 CMN: Panels, keyboards...
15:39:41 CS: API testing too.
15:40:06 s/Panels/For me, hot buttons include Panels/
15:40:26 RS: About the common API we've been discussing. With Windows 10 coming out, is June a better time to get with them?
15:40:40 q+ To ask whether Cynthia's WAPA might subsume IndieUI Events?
15:40:41 CS: Can't leave Seattle in June.
15:40:44 q-
15:40:48 bkardell_ was hoping chaals would just mention it :)
15:40:55 CS: No, family commitments would make that difficult.
15:40:59 q+ to mention extensible web
15:41:30 http://lanyrd.com/2015/extwebsummit/
15:42:13 JS: Cynthia's WAPA proposal was discussed on the PF call yesterday. Worth the TF considering?
15:42:34 CS: +1
15:43:04 RS: We'd need a couple of days for that.
15:43:05 [ http://www.w3.org/2015/03/alt-draft.html updated, sorry for checking in the wrong document ]
15:43:08 CS: Think a few hours.
15:43:52 https://rawgit.com/cyns/wapa/master/wapa.html
15:43:59 CS: What's in the WAPA doc is in the tech preview of IE.
15:44:26 CMN: Sounds like there is scope for a useful discussion in Seattle for those who can make it.
15:44:37 RS: Will look at possibility of being in Seattle.
15:45:01 what time would we start on Wednesday morning?
15:45:23 CMN: Ok, possibility of unofficial meeting in Seattle. Think an official meeting at CSUN next year would also make sense.
15:45:30 q+
15:45:41 q+ To note that PF has scheduled a conversation with Gregg Vanderheiden on April 8
15:45:41 CM: Could make it to Seattle, flying in on the Wed morning.
15:45:52 s/CM:/SM:
15:45:53 +ShaneM.a
15:46:01 ack paul
15:46:04 ack me
15:46:04 chaals, you wanted to mention extensible web
15:46:07 CMN: The extensible web meeting in SF is another consideration.
15:46:08 ack jan
15:46:08