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14:02:44 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
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14:02:45 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:02:45 <trackbot> Date: 16 March 2015
14:03:38 <Zakim> +Sandro
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14:04:59 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?
14:05:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ashok_Malhotra, Arnaud, azaroth, deiu, Sandro
14:05:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, Ashok, pchampin, deiu, TallTed, tommorris_, ericP, Yves, trackbot
14:06:38 <deiu> scribenick: deiu
14:07:03 <deiu> Topic: approval of minutes from last meeting
14:07:19 <deiu> Arnaud: any objections?
14:07:21 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
14:07:27 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
14:07:27 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
14:07:29 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
14:07:29 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
14:07:32 <deiu> … Hearing none, the next meeting will be on March 30th
14:08:39 <deiu> Topic: Paging
14:08:59 <deiu> Arnaud: a bit of bad news…unfortunatelly, Steve has left IBM
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14:09:20 <deiu> …I’m in contact to his group at IBM, so I can get feedback from them
14:09:40 <deiu> …but I will only do this if people have implementation and still want to continue working on it
14:10:14 <deiu> …I thought Steve was about to write the test suite, but now it’s not going to happen
14:10:27 <deiu> …FYI, he’s now at RedHat
14:10:39 <deiu> Ashok: what happened John Arwe?
14:10:50 <deiu> Arnaud: he’s still at IBM but he’s changed jobs
14:11:12 <deiu> …at this point I’m the only one from IBM still involved with LDP
14:11:36 <deiu> …I’m afraid paging will end up as a working note
14:11:42 <deiu> Topic: LD Patch format
14:12:05 <deiu> Arnaud: i18n have raised 3 issues
14:12:27 <deiu> …I got confused since they refer to section numbers that don’t really match the spec
14:13:41 <deiu> …when I put the agenda together, the statement doesn’t correspond to section 2.7 at all
14:15:18 <Zakim> +ericP
14:16:12 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
14:16:12 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
14:17:00 <Zakim> + +33.9.51.77.aaaa
14:17:29 <deiu> Arnaud: so we’re looking at issue-409, re. string matching rules
14:18:04 <deiu> ericP: there’s no normalization taking place in RDF
14:18:33 <deiu> Arnaud: our answer to the question is then “no”?
14:18:36 <deiu> ericP: Yes
14:19:41 <deiu> Arnaud: so we say that our tentative resolution is to say that there’s no normalization currently happening in RDF
14:20:32 <deiu> TallTed: I just want to make sure that we’re not just addressing the example here
14:20:50 <deiu> …the response to him doesn’t focus on normalization per-se
14:22:33 <deiu> Arnaud: let’s look at issue-410
14:23:13 <deiu> …they say “you might want to consider”..that’s pretty week. It sounds like a low hanging fruit.
14:23:27 <deiu> …I’d be inclied to just say yes to this comment
14:24:39 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/turtle/#h2_sec-parsing Turtle refs BCP47 for language tags
14:25:03 <deiu> pchampin: I just want to make sure that there is no contradiction wrt to Turtle
14:25:50 <TallTed> roughly change reference to "BCP47 [ref], as used by Turtle [ref]"
14:26:33 <deiu> Arnaud: next is issue-411
14:26:42 <deiu> … we had a bit of an exchange on the list about it
14:27:17 <deiu> ericP: I’m not entirely sure about this one
14:27:32 <deiu> Ashock: there’s a mention to whitespace in the XML spec
14:27:48 <deiu> ericP: yes, that’s what we used in SPARQL and Turtle
14:28:38 <deiu> …my feeling is that they might be content with the discussion we had on the list
14:29:02 <deiu> Arnaud: maybe you should reply to make sure we’re maintaining the status quo
14:29:26 <deiu> …ok, so that takes care of comments. How’s the test suite coming along?
14:29:31 <pchampin> https://github.com/pchampin/ld-patch-testsuite
14:29:37 <deiu> pchampin: it’s pretty much complete
14:29:46 <deiu> …500+ tests, mostly coming from Turtle
14:30:33 <deiu> …I think it’s complete now, my (python) implementation passes. I’m still waiting for news from Alexandre
14:30:45 <deiu> ericP: is it because of utf16?
14:30:50 <deiu> pchampin: yes..
14:31:02 <deiu> …now we need to write a note about reports
14:31:11 <deiu> s/reports/implementation reports/
14:31:32 <deiu> ericP: the LDP wiki pages has instructions on how to submit reports
14:32:04 <deiu> … in the future we will handle most of this stuff through the wiki
14:32:21 <deiu> pchampin: ok, so then I guess I’ll start with the wiki page
14:32:51 <deiu> sandro: let’s make sure we don’t put this on the LDP page, on a general wiki
14:32:52 <deiu> s/on a/but on a/
14:33:08 <deiu> sandro: since the LDP wiki will be frozen after LDP ends
14:33:20 <deiu> …w3.org/wiki/ldpatch-testing?
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14:34:52 <deiu> pchampin: I’ll put it on the w3.org wiki then
14:34:59 <deiu> Arnaud: anything else re. LD Patch?
14:35:04 <deiu> *crickets*
14:36:33 <deiu> Topic: LDP Primer
14:36:57 <deiu> sandro: Nandana is supposed to be working on it
14:37:04 <deiu> Arnaud: Ok
14:37:12 <deiu> Topic: LDP workshop
14:37:29 <deiu> Ashock: I’d like some help in sending out details and announcements to other groups
14:38:16 <deiu> Arnaud: it’s not clear to me how many people know at this point
14:38:36 <deiu> …I don’t have access now, but on Friday there were a handful of people listed
14:39:14 <deiu> sandro: maybe you can also list yourself (and cancel later if you can’t make it)
14:39:32 <deiu> Ashok: have you sent this information to the Social WG?
14:39:49 <deiu> Arnaud: there are several communities like that we should contact
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14:40:18 <deiu> …the issue I see, for example, is convincing people to travel there
14:40:46 <deiu> Ashok: that’s why we need to send the announcements as earlier as possible
14:41:21 <deiu> ericP: are there any business groups at W3C that are related?
14:41:42 <deiu> sandro: I’m looking at the wiki page and feeling a bit self-conscious about sending this to people
14:41:53 <deiu> …I feel like it doesn’t speak to people who are not in the WG
14:42:39 <deiu> Ashok: some suggestions might have gone “lost"
14:42:59 <deiu> ericP: maybe something along the lines of “LDP offers a way to increase the reuse of data”
14:43:32 <deiu> Arnaud: there should be a general introduction of LDP
14:45:20 <deiu> Arnaud: ok, anything else?
14:46:20 <ericP> ACTION: ericP to ask about no-change proposal in response to i18n white space (now just the big 4)
14:46:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-155 - Ask about no-change proposal in response to i18n white space (now just the big 4) [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2015-03-23].
14:47:11 <deiu> ACTION: deiu to change reference to "BCP47 [ref], as used by Turtle [ref]”, based on i18n-ISSUE-410
14:47:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-156 - Change reference to "bcp47 [ref], as used by turtle [ref]”, based on i18n-issue-410 [on Andrei Sambra - due 2015-03-23].
14:48:12 <deiu> Arnaud: let’s close on this. See you all soon!
14:48:13 <Zakim> -TallTed
14:48:15 <Zakim> -azaroth
14:48:15 <ericP> ACTION: ericP to ask about no-change proposal in response to string-matching/collation in LDP Patch
14:48:15 <trackbot> Created ACTION-157 - Ask about no-change proposal in response to string-matching/collation in ldp patch [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2015-03-23].
14:48:16 <Zakim> -Arnaud
14:48:18 <Zakim> -Sandro
14:48:20 <Zakim> -pchampin
14:48:23 <deiu> [Adjourned]
14:48:24 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
14:48:25 <Zakim> -ericP
14:48:40 <deiu> trackbot: end meeting
14:48:40 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:48:40 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Ashok_Malhotra, Arnaud, azaroth, deiu, Sandro, TallTed, ericP, +33.9.51.77.aaaa, pchampin
14:48:48 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:48:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/16-ldp-minutes.html trackbot
14:48:49 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:48:49 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/03/16-ldp-actions.rdf :
14:48:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to ask about no-change proposal in response to i18n white space (now just the big 4) [1]
14:48:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/03/16-ldp-irc#T14-46-20
14:48:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: deiu to change reference to "BCP47 [ref], as used by Turtle [ref]”, based on i18n-ISSUE-410 [2]
14:48:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/03/16-ldp-irc#T14-47-11
14:48:49 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to ask about no-change proposal in response to string-matching/collation in LDP Patch [3]
14:48:49 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/03/16-ldp-irc#T14-48-15-1