14:56:44 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #webtv
14:56:44 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/03/11-webtv-irc
14:56:49 <kaz> zakim, this will be ggie
14:56:50 <Zakim> ok, kaz, I see WEBT_GGIE TF()11:00AM already started
14:56:55 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-617
14:56:56 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
14:56:56 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
14:57:27 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
14:57:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see So_Vang, gmandyam, +1.913.241.aaaa, Kazuyuki
14:57:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, NiloM, mandyam, glenndeen, kaz, jcverdie_, richt, timeless, tobie, schuki, trackbot
14:57:42 <NiloM> aaaa is NiloM
14:57:43 <Zakim> + +1.818.777.aabb
14:58:09 <kaz> zakim, aabb is glenndeen
14:58:10 <Zakim> +glenndeen; got it
14:58:14 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
14:58:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see So_Vang, gmandyam, +1.913.241.aaaa, Kazuyuki, glenndeen
14:58:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, NiloM, mandyam, glenndeen, kaz, jcverdie_, richt, timeless, tobie, schuki, trackbot
14:58:29 <NiloM> zakim, aaaa is NiloM
14:58:29 <Zakim> +NiloM; got it
14:58:34 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
14:58:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see So_Vang, gmandyam, NiloM, Kazuyuki, glenndeen
14:58:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, NiloM, mandyam, glenndeen, kaz, jcverdie_, richt, timeless, tobie, schuki, trackbot
14:59:21 <ldaigle> ldaigle has joined #webtv
14:59:56 <Zakim> + +1.415.480.aacc
15:00:18 <Zakim> +Leslie_Daigle
15:00:18 <alex_deacon> alex_deacon has joined #webtv
15:00:32 <Zakim> +Paul_Higgs
15:00:53 <Paul_Higgs> Paul_Higgs has joined #webtv
15:01:09 <gmandyam> gmandyam has joined #webtv
15:01:14 <Zakim> + +1.415.802.aadd
15:01:29 <kaz> zakim, aadd is alex_deacon
15:01:29 <Zakim> +alex_deacon; got it
15:02:43 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:02:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see So_Vang, gmandyam, NiloM, Kazuyuki, glenndeen, +1.415.480.aacc, Leslie_Daigle, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon
15:02:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see gmandyam, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, ldaigle, RRSAgent, Zakim, NiloM, mandyam, glenndeen, kaz, jcverdie_, richt, timeless, tobie, schuki, trackbot
15:02:48 <Zakim> + +1.858.202.aaee
15:03:18 <kaz> zakim, aaee is jian_zhao
15:03:18 <Zakim> +jian_zhao; got it
15:03:26 <gmandyam> Giri Mandyam, Qualcomm Innovation Ctr., on call
15:03:45 <jianz> jianz has joined #webtv
15:04:37 <kaz> zakim, jian_zhao is jianz
15:04:38 <Zakim> +jianz; got it
15:04:48 <glenndeen> Agenda:  1) Roll Call; 2) Previous minutes; 3) Agenda bash  ; 4) Review new use cases UC-2Bis and Query-UC1 Query-UC2
15:04:57 <gmandyam> *Kaz, no
15:05:10 <JP> JP has joined #webtv
15:05:42 <Zakim> -jianz
15:05:54 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:05:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see So_Vang, gmandyam, NiloM, Kazuyuki, glenndeen, +1.415.480.aacc, Leslie_Daigle, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon
15:05:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see JP, jianz, gmandyam, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, ldaigle, RRSAgent, Zakim, NiloM, mandyam, glenndeen, kaz, jcverdie_, richt, timeless, tobie, schuki, trackbot
15:06:29 <Zakim> +jianz
15:07:05 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:07:39 <alex_deacon> Scribe:alex_deacon
15:07:40 <kaz> zakim, Microsoft is kilroy
15:07:41 <Zakim> +kilroy; got it
15:07:44 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:07:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see So_Vang, gmandyam, NiloM, Kazuyuki, glenndeen, +1.415.480.aacc, Leslie_Daigle, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, jianz, kilroy
15:07:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see JP, jianz, gmandyam, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, ldaigle, RRSAgent, Zakim, NiloM, glenndeen, kaz, jcverdie_, richt, timeless, tobie, schuki, trackbot
15:08:24 <alex_deacon> Previous meeting minutes are approved
15:08:46 <Kilroy> Kilroy has joined #webtv
15:09:29 <glenndeen> Agenda add:  Use Cane Template Discussion
15:10:12 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:10:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see So_Vang, gmandyam, NiloM, Kazuyuki, glenndeen, +1.415.480.aacc, Leslie_Daigle, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, jianz, kilroy
15:10:14 <Zakim> On IRC I see Kilroy, JP, jianz, gmandyam, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, ldaigle, RRSAgent, Zakim, NiloM, glenndeen, kaz, jcverdie_, richt, timeless, tobie, schuki, trackbot
15:10:28 <alex_deacon> NiloM: Suggests changes to the use case template.
15:11:44 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF/UseCases Use Case wiki
15:13:06 <alex_deacon> kaz: wiki system does have feature to track changes.
15:16:14 <alex_deacon> kaz: perhaps we can assign a specific author and reviewer to each use case.
15:16:46 <alex_deacon> glenndeen: will think about the best way to manage updates to wiki.  Suggests we have a discussion on the mailing list.
15:17:54 <alex_deacon> kaz: maybe users can use different colors when making edits.
15:17:57 <NiloM> color is better than nothing. At least it would show what changed.
15:18:41 <glenndeen> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF/UseCases#UC-1bis_Basic_Streamed_Content_Selection
15:19:13 <alex_deacon> NiloM: Overview of UC-1bis Basic Streamed Content Selection Use case.
15:19:16 <BillRose> BillRose has joined #webtv
15:19:37 <alex_deacon> NiloN: suggests this use case be the first use case.
15:19:55 <kaz> [ fyi, the old use case template of the main IG had a field on "submitter": http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas ]
15:20:59 <Zakim> + +1.860.313.aaff
15:21:09 <kaz> s/a field on "submitter"/fields on "submitter" and "reviewer"/
15:21:44 <BillRose> Sorry I am late. Do you want me to take notes
15:21:56 <kaz> zakim, aaff is BillRose
15:21:56 <Zakim> +BillRose; got it
15:22:01 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:22:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see So_Vang, gmandyam, NiloM, Kazuyuki, glenndeen, +1.415.480.aacc, Leslie_Daigle, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, jianz, kilroy, BillRose
15:22:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see BillRose, Kilroy, JP, jianz, gmandyam, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, ldaigle, RRSAgent, Zakim, NiloM, glenndeen, kaz, jcverdie_, richt, timeless, tobie, schuki, trackbot
15:22:06 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:22:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:22:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:22:34 <alex_deacon> glenndeen: suggests we need to add search capabilities to the Gaps section of this use case.
15:23:43 <alex_deacon> kaz - still learning the system.  let me know if what I'm doing note wise is correct.
15:24:23 <alex_deacon> :)  thanks!
15:25:58 <alex_deacon> glenndeen: We lack a standard way of searching for content.
15:26:30 <alex_deacon> NiloM: Will update the use case based on this mechanism.
15:27:50 <alex_deacon> glenndeen: We need use cases around discovery and EPG creation.
15:28:45 <alex_deacon> glenndeen: Perhaps Andrew, Nilo and others can work on this??
15:29:41 <alex_deacon> BillRose: Is willing to help out with this use case.
15:33:07 <alex_deacon> glenndeen: Overview of EIDR assignment.
15:33:13 <Zakim> + +33.6.21.15.aagg
15:34:41 <Zakim> + +1.818.777.aahh
15:35:23 <MikeW> MikeW has joined #webtv
15:35:32 <kaz> zakim, aagg is andre_Rufener
15:35:32 <Zakim> +andre_Rufener; got it
15:35:40 <Zakim> -gmandyam
15:35:44 <kaz> zakim, andre_Rufener is Andre_Rufener
15:35:44 <Zakim> +Andre_Rufener; got it
15:35:50 <kaz> zakim, aahh is MikeW
15:35:50 <Zakim> +MikeW; got it
15:36:28 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:36:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see So_Vang, NiloM, Kazuyuki, glenndeen, +1.415.480.aacc, Leslie_Daigle, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, jianz, kilroy, BillRose, Andre_Rufener, MikeW
15:36:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see MikeW, BillRose, Kilroy, JP, jianz, gmandyam, Paul_Higgs, alex_deacon, ldaigle, RRSAgent, Zakim, NiloM, glenndeen, kaz, jcverdie_, richt, timeless, tobie, schuki,
15:36:31 <Zakim> ... trackbot
15:36:38 <alex_deacon> glenndeen: EIDR value is opaque - relationships require a query to registry.
15:36:43 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:36:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:37:51 <alex_deacon> glenndeen; Suggests we invite EIDR folks to join the call to discuss our use cases.
15:38:04 <alex_deacon> s/;/:
15:38:09 <Zakim> +gmandyam
15:38:24 <gmandyam_> gmandyam_ has joined #webtv
15:39:46 <alex_deacon> glenndeen: suggests we may be able to solve a problem with a level of indirection.
15:39:54 <glenndeen> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/GGIE_TF/UseCases#Query_by_URI_Use_Cases
15:39:59 <Zakim> -gmandyam
15:40:17 <kaz> i/Previous meeting/topic: Previous minutes/
15:40:41 <kaz> i/Suggests changes to the use case template./topic: Use case template/
15:41:02 <Zakim> +gmandyam
15:41:27 <kaz> i/Basic_Streamed_/topic: UC-1/
15:42:45 <kaz> i/Query_by/topic: Query by URI Use Cases/
15:43:17 <kaz> s/UC-1/Viewing Use Cases/
15:43:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:43:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:43:45 <alex_deacon> FYI I will need to drop offline and go voice only at the top of the hour.  Can someone take over note taking at 9am pacific?
15:44:29 <glenndeen> isan.org
15:44:55 <alex_deacon> Killroy: Suggests we look at ISAN (www.isan.org)
15:45:08 <BillRose> I can take over if thats OK with Kaz and you
15:45:42 <NiloM> ISAN?
15:46:08 <alex_deacon> Thanks Bill.  Much appreciated.
15:46:15 <kaz> scribenick: BillRose
15:46:45 <BillRose> Let me know when to take over
15:47:39 <NiloM> ok, www.isan.org worked.
15:47:45 <alex_deacon> Now is great Bill. Thanks again.
15:47:48 <BillRose> GlennDeen discussed Use Case 2 - Query by content Id URI with delegated sub-namespace
15:48:31 <kaz> zakim, who is speaking?
15:48:37 <glenndeen> andrew
15:48:41 <Zakim> kaz, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Andre_Rufener (42%)
15:48:58 <kaz> zakim, Andre_Rufener is Andrew_Rufener
15:48:58 <Zakim> +Andrew_Rufener; got it
15:49:33 <BillRose> Andrew noted the concept is similar to DNS heirachical Namespace today
15:50:03 <BillRose> Glenn noted that it is similar but not advocating implementing using DNS
15:50:06 <kaz> s/topic: UC-1/topic: Viewing Use Cases/
15:50:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:50:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:50:42 <kaz> s|[ fyi, the old use case template of the main IG had fields on "submitter" and "reviewer": http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas ]||
15:50:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:50:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:51:25 <BillRose> GlennDeen: Would like to have discussion as to what such a solution would do, how it might work using e.g. EIDR style ID.
15:52:03 <kaz> i|will think about the best|[ fyi, the old use case template of the main IG had fields on "submitter" and "reviewer": http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas ]
15:52:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:52:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
15:53:15 <BillRose> GlennDeen: What gets returned to a query - trying to work across multiple namespaces, not all might have same idea of what a subdomain might look like, work like. Some may have all of the info e.g. a web service that does not need to delegate. Others might not.
15:53:29 <BillRose> GlennDeen will start the discussion on the list.
15:55:06 <BillRose> Comment ?" Searching for unknown content is the more interesting UC. "Show me what I like" instead of "find "Title X""
15:56:20 <BillRose> Andrew: might want to find content you don't have permission to so you might buy it. E.g. OnDemand, new services, etc.
15:56:32 <kaz> s/Comment ?/Kilroy: /
15:56:38 <Zakim> -Paul_Higgs
15:57:06 <BillRose> Kilroy: Also search for technical details - formats, etc.
15:58:31 <BillRose> GlennDeen: Might have CDN with same titel content from multiple services even though it has different formats, licenses, etc. Would like to see options. Ultraviolet supports this to some extent.
15:58:41 <glenndeen> Alto
15:59:18 <kaz> s/titel/title/
16:00:31 <BillRose> GlennDeen: Look into Alto Working Group
16:00:47 <Zakim> -alex_deacon
16:00:50 <Zakim> -Andrew_Rufener
16:00:50 <Zakim> -jianz
16:00:51 <Zakim> -Leslie_Daigle
16:00:52 <Zakim> -NiloM
16:00:52 <Zakim> - +1.415.480.aacc
16:00:53 <Zakim> -glenndeen
16:00:55 <Zakim> -gmandyam
16:00:55 <BillRose> GlennDeen: Will be in Dallas at IETF and will try to set up Meet and Greet for anyone there
16:00:56 <Zakim> -kilroy
16:00:57 <Zakim> -MikeW
16:00:58 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
16:01:01 <Zakim> -So_Vang
16:01:09 <ldaigle> ldaigle has left #webtv
16:01:27 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:01:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:01:58 <kaz> Chair: Glenn
16:02:04 <kaz> Meeting: Web&TV IG - GGIE TF
16:02:14 <kaz> regrets: Mark_Vickers
16:02:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:02:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/03/11-webtv-minutes.html kaz