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13:47:14 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
13:47:14 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
13:47:15 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:47:15 <trackbot> Date: 06 March 2015
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13:55:33 <deirdrelee> zakim, this will be dwbp
13:55:33 <Zakim> ok, deirdrelee; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
13:55:44 <deirdrelee> rrsagent, make logs public
13:56:49 <deirdrelee> chair: deirdrelee
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13:57:40 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
13:57:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:57:56 <hadleybeeman> Hey, I got to start the meeting (on Zakim). :)
13:58:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
13:58:09 <phila> zakim, ipcaller.a is me
13:58:09 <Zakim> +phila; got it
13:58:16 <deirdrelee> zakiim, ipcaller is me
13:58:26 <deirdrelee> zakim, ipcaller is me
13:58:26 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
13:58:37 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
13:58:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, deirdrelee, phila
13:58:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see cgueret, deirdrelee, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot
13:59:16 <RiccardoAlbertoni> RiccardoAlbertoni has joined #DWBP
13:59:53 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aaaa
14:00:09 <Zakim> +??P4
14:00:10 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim, 096.aaaa is me
14:00:10 <Zakim> sorry, RiccardoAlbertoni, I do not recognize a party named '096.aaaa'
14:00:22 <cgueret> zakim, ??P4 is me
14:00:22 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it
14:00:26 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
14:00:26 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
14:00:28 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim, 39.349.096.aaaa is me
14:00:28 <Zakim> sorry, RiccardoAlbertoni, I do not recognize a party named '39.349.096.aaaa'
14:00:35 <estephan> estephan has joined #dwbp
14:00:45 <deirdrelee> zakim, +39 is RiccardoAlbertoni
14:00:45 <Zakim> +RiccardoAlbertoni; got it
14:00:46 <Zakim> +yaso
14:00:55 <Caroline_> Zakim, yaso is Caroline_
14:00:55 <Zakim> +Caroline_; got it
14:01:01 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here
14:01:01 <Zakim> deirdrelee, you need to end that query with '?'
14:01:03 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
14:01:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, deirdrelee, phila, RiccardoAlbertoni, cgueret (muted), Caroline_
14:01:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see estephan, RiccardoAlbertoni, cgueret, deirdrelee, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot
14:01:07 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim, aaaa is me
14:01:07 <Zakim> sorry, RiccardoAlbertoni, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
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14:01:37 <Zakim> +??P6
14:01:38 <MTCarrasco> MTCarrasco has joined #dwbp
14:01:56 <Zakim> -??P6
14:01:59 <Caroline_> I may scribe
14:02:10 <Caroline_> no problem! Yes!
14:02:37 <Zakim> +??P6
14:02:49 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P6 is me
14:02:49 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it
14:02:57 <deirdrelee> zakim, pick a victim
14:02:57 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose deirdrelee
14:02:59 <Zakim> + +1.510.384.aabb
14:03:03 <deirdrelee> zakim, pick a victim
14:03:03 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose deirdrelee
14:03:15 <phila> zakim, pick another victim
14:03:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick another victim', phila
14:03:17 <annette_g> zakim, aabb is me
14:03:17 <Zakim> +annette_g; got it
14:03:21 <deirdrelee> zakim, pick a victim
14:03:21 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose RiccardoAlbertoni
14:03:24 <phila> zakim, pick a victim
14:03:24 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cgueret (muted)
14:03:26 <estephan> having trouble dialing in....
14:03:42 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aacc
14:03:42 <hadleybeeman> sorry to hear that, estephan!
14:04:14 <estephan> zakim,  aacc is me
14:04:14 <Zakim> +estephan; got it
14:04:23 <newton> newton has joined #dwbp
14:04:35 <RiccardoAlbertoni> i would prefer not to scribe .. sorry I am very tired today..
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14:04:46 <phila> scribe: phila
14:04:48 <hadleybeeman> Ah, timezones!  Reminder that we are tied to US East-Coast time (for Boston, USA)
14:04:50 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150306
14:04:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:05:05 <deirdrelee> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-27
14:05:09 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:05:09 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
14:05:18 <phila> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-27
14:05:20 <hadleybeeman> +1
14:05:21 <estephan> +1
14:05:23 <newton> +1
14:05:25 <phila> +1
14:05:26 <deirdrelee> +1
14:05:26 <annette_g> +1
14:05:32 <cgueret> +1
14:05:32 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1
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14:05:35 <Caroline_> +1
14:05:35 <antoine> +1
14:05:36 <adler1> gm
14:05:37 <phila> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-27
14:05:42 <deirdrelee> zakim, who is here?
14:05:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, deirdrelee, phila, RiccardoAlbertoni, cgueret (muted), Caroline_, MTCarrasco, annette_g, estephan, antoine
14:05:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see adler1, antoine, newton, MTCarrasco, annette_g, estephan, RiccardoAlbertoni, cgueret, deirdrelee, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot
14:05:53 <adler1> I'm double booked this morning and can only participate via chat
14:06:23 <phila> deirdrelee: So let's get started on the agenda.
14:06:31 <phila> ... want to tie down some timelines for the deliverables
14:06:48 <phila> ... talked about it last week. Don't want to spend every call on admin!
14:07:03 <hadleybeeman> +1 to that :)
14:07:16 <phila> ... so wary of spending too much time talking about operationstuff so if we can pin down the milestones today and then crack on with contnet between now and the f2f
14:07:22 <phila> ... so for the BP Doc
14:07:33 <phila> ... thanks to Newton for the timelines
14:07:42 <phila> ... good to see some feedback on the BP doc too
14:08:16 <Caroline_> Bernadette asked me tell you that she had a last minute issue so she will not be able to join the call today.
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14:08:23 <phila> newton: We have proposed https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/BP_Document_Schedule
14:08:45 <phila> Caroline_: We put on the list what we thought would be ideal
14:08:55 <phila> ... and what we could accomplish
14:09:12 <phila> ... most important is to think about each BP
14:09:20 <phila> ... anything you have to flag or want to change
14:09:31 <phila> ... we thought about the short term plan and then we can think about the longer one
14:09:47 <Zakim> -antoine
14:09:53 <cgueret> q+ to speak about changes recently proposed
14:09:58 <deirdrelee> q+
14:10:06 <phila> q+ to talk about http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open
14:10:14 <phila> ack cgueret
14:10:15 <Zakim> cgueret, you wanted to speak about changes recently proposed
14:10:31 <phila> cgueret: Just to say that I sent a mail to the public-dwbp-comments list
14:10:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:11:03 <phila> ... I was with 15 people yesterday and asked them for comments. I got a lot that I have passed on. I also have some printed versions with written annotations
14:11:06 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:11:06 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
14:11:17 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
14:11:17 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
14:11:18 <phila> deirdrelee: Thabnks Christophe
14:11:20 <Caroline_> thank you, cgueret!
14:11:35 <cgueret> ur welcome ;-)
14:11:51 <phila> ... I think it would be interesting to talk about those. But on the time line - it see it doesn't include time for reviews and feedback such as we've just been offered by Christophe
14:12:11 <phila> ... there's no reference to which organisations we're going to reach out to
14:12:21 <newton> We have this item "Review and make possible changes on the document considering community feedback"
14:12:27 <phila> ... timelines around when we'll get and react to feedback
14:12:54 <deirdrelee> q?
14:12:55 <phila> Caroline_: Actually we're thinking about group work. I've not looked at those specific comment yet
14:12:58 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee
14:13:17 <phila> ... we made the schedule thinking about the WG members, but we can certainly take the comments that we have
14:13:35 <phila> ... but I think the long term goals are the important ones
14:13:48 <annette_g> q+
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14:14:01 <deirdrelee> ack phila
14:14:01 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open
14:14:02 <phila> ack me
14:14:14 <phila> We have a lot of open issues http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open
14:14:36 <deirdrelee> .. something the work has to do is work through the issues
14:14:47 <deirdrelee> ... there's an awful lot of comments
14:14:54 <phila> ack annette_g
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14:15:05 <deirdrelee> ... need to work through these, as well as addressing other comments
14:15:16 <phila> annette_g: There were some suggestionbs for some new BPs, maybe in issues? I want to make sure they get schediled too
14:15:18 <Caroline_> +1 to work on the open issues. The idea to Run over each BP and review them until March 30 is to consider these open issues
14:15:49 <phila> deirdrelee: It's important that all this feedback we're getting is acted on
14:16:03 <phila> q+ to talk about comment tracking
14:16:30 <deirdrelee> q?
14:16:32 <phila> ack me
14:16:32 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about comment tracking
14:16:34 <deirdrelee> ack phila
14:16:43 <cgueret> +1 to open issues, would help tracking progress done on merging comments
14:17:24 <cgueret> phila: we have a tracking tools for comments which is not activated yet for this group
14:17:30 <yaso> yaso has joined #dwbp
14:17:31 <cgueret> ... will take an action on this
14:17:49 <phila> action: Phil to investigate the comment tracker tool
14:17:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-142 - Investigate the comment tracker tool [on Phil Archer - due 2015-03-13].
14:17:55 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to consider the comment tracker
14:18:02 <annette_g> q+
14:18:50 <AdrianoC> Hi all, we are here only in chat mode because the phone number +1.617.761.6200 is not answering. Does anyone have the same problem?
14:18:55 <phila> deirdrelee: You were saying Carol and Newton that you were thinking about it, but can you update the plan to show that you're planning to incororpate the comments
14:18:59 <deirdrelee> ack annette_g
14:19:25 <phila> action: newton to work with Caroline to update the timeline to show when/how they'll integrate the feedback received
14:19:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-143 - Work with caroline to update the timeline to show when/how they'll integrate the feedback received [on Newton Calegari - due 2015-03-13].
14:20:02 <phila> annette_g: You have 3 weeks where you say 'BP tests' - what are those tests? Are the same as the ones we already have in each BP?
14:20:11 <phila> Caroline_: The idea is to think about the tests
14:20:16 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:20:18 <phila> ... do we need to change something?
14:20:24 <phila> ... are they executable etc?
14:20:26 <yaso> Zakim, IPcaller is me
14:20:26 <Zakim> +yaso; got it
14:20:49 <phila> Caroline_: What can we add, etc. Idea is to think about and document the tests
14:20:54 <deirdrelee> q+
14:21:04 <phila> annette_g: I'm thinking that 3 weeks is a lot when we have so many issues to think about
14:21:15 <phila> ...  maybe we should split into groups and work in parallel?
14:21:33 <phila> newton: Nathalia and I are going to research on testing tools for BPs and this work could be done in parallel
14:21:37 <phila> ... to adding new BPs etc.
14:22:12 <phila> newton: If you have idea for the tests, that would be helpful. Yaso is also looking at tests
14:22:19 <phila> ... she can help us too.
14:22:38 <phila> ack deirdrelee
14:23:16 <phila> deirdrelee: A more general question on timing. There's this focus on tests in the coming weeks, but in the context of the naturity of the doc as a whole and each BP, does it make sense to focu on the testing before the BP itself is mature?
14:23:46 <phila> deirdrelee: Some BPs need to be thought about, refined etc. Maybe that's the first before testing?
14:23:52 <phila> ... or doing them in parallel
14:24:02 <phila> ... but improvements of the actual BPs doesn't get lost
14:24:07 <phila> phila: +1 to Deirdre
14:24:14 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
14:24:21 <phila> newton: Yes, we could do it in parallel
14:24:34 <phila> ... but I think the testing aspects are necessary too
14:24:48 <phila> deirdrelee: The purpose of the testing is to ensure that the BP can be implemengted in the real world
14:24:51 <AdrianoC> Zakim, +[GVoice] is me
14:24:51 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC, I do not recognize a party named '+[GVoice]'
14:24:58 <phila> newton: And we'd like to make some examples to illustrate the BP
14:25:02 <hadleybeeman> +1 to deirdrelee from me too. Testing is critical, but time-consuming.  We'll need to create tests that other people can run too. So maybe best to do that when we're sure what the tests need to will be?
14:25:18 <phila> newton: Bernadette was talking about finding examples
14:25:25 <MTCarrasco> zakim, mute me
14:25:25 <Zakim> MTCarrasco should now be muted
14:25:25 <phila> zakim, [ is AdrianoC
14:25:26 <Zakim> +AdrianoC; got it
14:25:30 <annette_g> +1 to Deirdre
14:25:42 <antoine> +1
14:25:59 <hadleybeeman> q+
14:26:02 <phila> Caroline_: It's no problem for us to follow what the WG suggests
14:26:04 <phila> ack hadleybeeman
14:26:27 <phila> hadleybeeman: Just to expand on what I put in IRC. We need to make sure that everyone using our Recs can show that they have followed the BPs
14:26:43 <phila> ... long term we do need tests and we need to be able to run those tests to establish whether there are implementations
14:27:04 <phila> ... we need to go to people who are doing the things we're recommending to demo that they're doing it.
14:27:17 <phila> deirdrelee: And in terms of timing, should be be focussing on that in parallel?
14:27:38 <phila> hadleybeeman: I think it's useful to have it in mind but I also think we shouldn't put too much effort into writing tests for things that might change
14:27:47 <annette_g> +1 to Hadley
14:28:10 <phila> deirdrelee: I want to go to the other vocabs too and hear about those plans
14:28:20 <phila> ... and then see how we can make best use of future calls
14:28:35 <phila> ... is it one vocab per call, one BP per call... whatever, resolving the issues
14:28:52 <phila> ... but to give us some context, can we hear from the vocab editors
14:29:12 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_quality_schedule
14:29:21 <phila> antoine: I had some discussions with Bart and worked on an informal action I had on creating the draft schedule ^^
14:29:33 <phila> antoine: I think it matches what we discussed
14:30:07 <phila> ... on the BP. Contrary to what's in there for the target dates, I had set aside some time to work on the BPs
14:30:16 <phila> ... I think that should happen too
14:31:06 <phila> antoine: We need help going through ther requirements and UCS
14:31:06 <deirdrelee> +1
14:31:25 <phila> ... same for the BPs.
14:31:40 <phila> antoine: Then roughly one week before the f2f we'll try and gather these requirements and report to the group
14:31:47 <phila> ... see if we have enough capacity
14:31:57 <phila> ... then a week of discussion before the f2f so the WG can react to the requirements
14:32:13 <phila> ... then the f2f can be where the group makes progress
14:32:32 <phila> ... we were talking about whether the vocabs should be merged, do we have enough for 2 etc.
14:32:48 <phila> ... the after the f2f we actually get on with defining gthe classes and properties. That would take about a month
14:32:52 <deirdrelee> q+
14:33:08 <phila> antoine: These are some actions - we'd need everyone to review the vocabs in June
14:33:13 <phila> ... FPWD in mid-late June
14:33:25 <phila> phila: Likes the schedule, thanks antoine
14:33:52 <RiccardoAlbertoni> I like the schedule..
14:34:00 <cgueret> I can help in last week of March + April
14:34:02 <phila> antoine: We need to have names on the list but I don't want to make false expectations
14:34:03 <phila> ack d
14:34:24 <phila> deirdrelee: The schedule looks concrete. FPWD in early summer (northern hemisphere)
14:34:40 <phila> ... so you havae a lot of f2f time on requirements and only after that getting into defining classes and properties
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14:35:06 <RiccardoAlbertoni> +1 to deirdrelee
14:35:11 <phila> ... will it make sense to have some f2f time specifically for discussing not just reqs but also starting to try and think about initial classes and properties
14:35:34 <phila> ... so we'd be looking at concrete outputs during the f2f
14:35:52 <phila> antoine: Yes, that is a good point. First I'd say that when I mean reqs, I mean very concrete requirements
14:36:02 <phila> ... like 'there should be a property that reflects X'
14:36:11 <phila> ... it would be a vocab but it would be a long way towards it
14:36:32 <phila> antoine: The 2nd point - you;re right that we should use the f2f for more than reqs. But I have doubts that we'll manage to do it
14:37:07 <estephan> +q
14:37:24 <phila> ... It looks as if we have a lot of time but in reality, there are dozens of open issues. On current speed of progress, I'm not envisioning there will be a lot of time to devote to writing the vocabs.
14:37:38 <Zakim> +??P13
14:37:47 <phila> deirdrelee: Yep, I can see that reqs that are concerete like that, it makes sense, that's almost the vocab
14:37:52 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, P13 is me
14:37:52 <Zakim> sorry, CarlosIglesias, I do not recognize a party named 'P13'
14:37:58 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P13 is me
14:37:59 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it
14:38:03 <phila> deirdrelee: So maybe us chairs need to talk about the f2f agenda on our Tuesday call
14:38:14 <antoine> q+
14:38:31 <phila> deirdrelee: The last thing is, in terms of Friday meetings, how can they bets be used to best progress the quality vocab?
14:38:57 <phila> antoine: For a first step I think it will be useful to discuss either the use cases or what's in the BP doc that's relevant to the vocab
14:39:03 <phila> ... maybe clarifying something
14:39:41 <phila> ack next
14:40:24 <phila> estephan: I just wanted to add something that we've talked about before. We have talked about the vocabs moving ahead independently, the f2f might be a good time to talk about where the 2 vocabs might intersect
14:40:47 <phila> estephan: I'd like to propose that we picki up that discussion at this next f2f
14:40:50 <deirdrelee> q?
14:40:52 <phila> ack antoine
14:40:54 <deirdrelee> ack antoine
14:41:27 <phila> antoine: As you may have seen in the schedule, the 2nd editor is referred to as '2nd editor' as Bart says he won't have the bandwidth to act as an eduitor/coordinator in the coming couple of months
14:41:38 <phila> ... so maybe we should try and find another co-editor, so this is the call for hekpo
14:41:39 <cgueret> q+ to offer to replace Bart
14:41:49 <phila> ack cgueret
14:41:51 <Zakim> cgueret, you wanted to offer to replace Bart
14:42:03 <phila> cgueret: Yes I can work with Antoine on this document
14:42:12 <phila> phila: I note that they're both in the smae city to :-)
14:42:20 <cgueret> indeed ;-)
14:42:20 <phila> s/smae/same
14:42:33 <cgueret> zakim, mute me
14:42:33 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted
14:42:48 <cgueret> we'll have plenty of F2F ^_^
14:42:58 <cgueret> :-D
14:43:28 <phila> deirdrelee: So you have my name down too to help out.
14:43:34 <estephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_schedule
14:43:36 <phila> Topic: data Usage Vocab
14:43:55 <phila> estephan: We've shared this schedule last week.
14:44:17 <phila> estephan: WE see after April, an iterative evolution
14:44:23 <deirdrelee> q+
14:44:27 <phila> ... we're already behind scheduke asking for feedback by now
14:44:39 <phila> ... Bernadette and I had conflicting schedules this week.
14:44:48 <phila> ... so we're going to meet next Tuesday to discuss that
14:45:09 <phila> ... We'll ask for agenda time when we need it, for example, we're likely to need some next week
14:45:34 <phila> estephan: The scenarios help us to describe the basic requirements for the DUV
14:45:45 <phila> ... in the Data usage doc, we should be able to draw from our use cases
14:46:02 <phila> ... I'd alos like to say that although we may not mention certain use cases, we will look at them all
14:46:18 <phila> ... March 20 we want to have the res available to ask the WG what you think
14:46:35 <phila> ... and then by end March we want to be identifying classes etc.
14:46:41 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni
14:46:45 <phila> ... The BP doc certainly helped us think about that
14:46:55 <estephan> http://w3c.github.io/data-shapes/data-shapes-primer/no-class-templates
14:47:11 <phila> ... ^^ And example of how to depict the vocabulary
14:47:12 <Zakim> +RiccardoAlbertoni
14:47:31 <phila> ... this doc has the ability to look at the vocab through JSON and Turtle
14:47:41 <adler1> can we add Data Discovery to the BP Document as a category of practices?
14:47:41 <phila> ... (press J for JSON, T for turtle)
14:48:04 <adler1> I am still collecting feedback from my IBM colleagues
14:48:24 <phila> phila: whispers to adler1 http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp/#discovery
14:50:01 <adler1> :)
14:50:02 <phila> deirdrelee: I like the schedule. But I see that it's all on you and Bernadette. You're meeting outside these calls which emphasises the weight on your shoulders.
14:50:26 <phila> ... and Bernadette is also editor of the BP doc. You shouldn't be carrying everything
14:51:10 <phila> estephan: The self-imposed pressure is that I found some projects I'm working on have a need for feedback on data quality. So I'm putting my feet to the fire for a reason :-)
14:51:23 <phila> ... but of course we welcome help from everyone
14:52:27 <phila> estephan: Sumit is on my project team so I know what he'sll be working on this
14:52:50 <RiccardoAlbertoni> yea I am curios ..
14:53:13 <phila> phila: I'm certainly interested in the DUCV
14:53:18 <phila> s/DUCV/DUV/
14:53:40 <phila> estephan: It might worth Bernadette and I putting out a status report in the mailing list
14:54:11 <phila> deirdrelee: Couple of minutes left...
14:54:30 <phila> deirdrelee: We'll talk about the f2f agenda on the chairs call
14:54:37 <phila> Topic: How to use the Friday Calls
14:54:43 <Zakim> -antoine
14:55:10 <phila> deirdrelee: Now that we have a clearish timeline for each of the different deliverables for all of us... we want to talk about the nitty gritty.
14:55:42 <phila> ... what I suggest is that we dedicate half of the call for the next few weeks to the BPs, maybe looking at individual BPs
14:56:06 <phila> ... we look at the open issues, the feedback we're getting and our own comments. Limit ourselves to half an hour
14:56:13 <estephan> RiccardoAlbertoni: if you are interested in participating in the weekly calls let me know :-)
14:56:22 <phila> ... and then split the other half of the call to the 2 vocabs (equally)
14:56:44 <phila> deirdrelee: We shouldn't all feel the need to be on multiple calls each week for te one WG
14:56:57 <phila> ... so we can focus on the content and resolving issues
14:57:03 <hadleybeeman> +1
14:57:03 <phila> phila: +1 from me deirdrelee
14:57:04 <estephan> +1
14:57:06 <deirdrelee> q?
14:57:12 <phila> q- deirdrelee
14:57:12 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee
14:57:13 <estephan> q+
14:57:34 <phila> hadleybeeman: We can ada[t it as needs be but let's start with that
14:57:48 <hadleybeeman> s/ada[t/adapt
14:58:11 <hadleybeeman> +1 to anything that helps people prepare for meetings.
14:58:12 <phila> deirdrelee: And it would help if the BP editors were prepared for each Friday meeting to say, right, this is the BP/issue we want to talk about this week
14:58:19 <phila> q?
14:58:25 <phila> ack estephan
14:58:50 <Caroline_> ok, we can do that
14:58:54 <phila> estephan: I think that's a great idea. From the editors of the vocabs if we communicate to the Wg ahead of time what kinds of things we need help with
14:59:03 <phila> ... the questions we'll have etc.
14:59:22 <Caroline_> ok
14:59:23 <RiccardoAlbertoni> Estephan: I'd like to .. unfortunately I am not sure I will have the time in the next two weeks.. please send in the mailing list some update and I'll check how I can contribute to the discussion
14:59:25 <phila> deirdrelee: And even if it's just looking through the issue list, maybe resolving 'these three issues' or whatever.
14:59:31 <MTCarrasco> bye
14:59:38 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
14:59:49 <phila> deirdrelee: The only other thing that came up was from the Data Activity Coordination Group
15:00:01 <estephan> RiccardoAlbertoni: ok I'll keep you in the loop, participate when you can
15:00:17 <RiccardoAlbertoni> estephan: Many Thanks! :)
15:00:41 <phila> deirdrelee: There is some feeling that we should/could be more prescriptive. e.g. CSVW are punting some of their stuff to this WG, or rather, hoping that we'll cover it
15:00:41 <deirdrelee> q?
15:00:55 <Caroline_> thank you! Bye
15:00:58 <cgueret> thx!
15:00:58 <Zakim> -Caroline_
15:01:01 <cgueret> bye
15:01:01 <RiccardoAlbertoni> thanks !
15:01:03 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
15:01:04 <CarlosIglesias> bye bye!
15:01:05 <Zakim> -annette_g
15:01:05 <nathalia> bye
15:01:06 <Zakim> -yaso
15:01:07 <annette_g> bye all!
15:01:07 <Zakim> -phila
15:01:07 <Zakim> -estephan
15:01:09 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
15:01:09 <AdrianoC> Thanks all, see you! Bye!
15:01:21 <Zakim> -AdrianoC
15:01:22 <phila> trackbot end meeting
15:01:22 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:01:22 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been HadleyBeeman, phila, deirdrelee, +39.349.096.aaaa, cgueret, RiccardoAlbertoni, Caroline_, MTCarrasco, +1.510.384.aabb, annette_g,
15:01:22 <Zakim> ... +1.509.554.aacc, estephan, antoine, yaso, [GVoice], AdrianoC, CarlosIglesias
15:01:30 <Zakim> -RiccardoAlbertoni
15:01:30 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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15:01:31 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:01:31 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2015/03/06-dwbp-actions.rdf :
15:01:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Phil to investigate the comment tracker tool [1]
15:01:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/03/06-dwbp-irc#T14-17-49
15:01:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: newton to work with Caroline to update the timeline to show when/how they'll integrate the feedback received [2]
15:01:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2015/03/06-dwbp-irc#T14-19-25
15:01:38 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias