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14:28:08 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
14:28:09 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
14:28:09 <trackbot> Date: 25 February 2015
14:28:52 <Vivienne> Regrets: Klaus, Luz, Silvia
14:28:52 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
14:28:52 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
14:28:53 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
14:28:54 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:29:34 <Vivienne> Shadi, I'm getting an error message "this passcode is not valid"
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14:30:30 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
14:30:30 <Zakim> sorry, Vivienne, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
14:31:08 <Vivienne> ok
14:31:11 <Zakim> +Markku
14:31:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:31:36 <sloandr> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:31:36 <Zakim> +sloandr; got it
14:32:55 <Zakim> +[FIT]
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14:33:17 <Yehya> zakim, [FIT] is me
14:33:17 <Zakim> +Yehya; got it
14:33:45 <mhakkinen> zakim, who is on the phone
14:33:45 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', mhakkinen
14:33:50 <mhakkinen> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:33:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shadi, Markku, sloandr, Yehya
14:34:33 <shadi> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-rd/2015Feb/0014.html
14:34:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:34:47 <Vivienne> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:34:47 <Zakim> +Vivienne; got it
14:34:51 <shadi> Agenda+ Research Catalogue Topic Review - Current Survey results
14:35:02 <shadi> Agenda+ Tips for Accessibility Aware Research
14:36:36 <shadi> scribe: shadi
14:40:05 <shadi> Topic: Sharing Knowledge
14:40:22 <shadi> MH: attending CSUN next week
14:40:26 <shadi> ...will report back interesting aspects
14:40:36 <shadi> ...CSUN not typically research-oriented
14:40:44 <annika> annika has joined #rd
14:40:46 <shadi> ..but there may be interesting stuff anyway
14:40:51 <mhakkinen> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/RDWG-170215/results
14:41:17 <sloandr> Agreed on CSUN—there seems to be a conscious effort to attract more academic research contributions
14:41:19 <Zakim> +??P16
14:41:22 <shadi> SAZ: could also have others share observations they make at other conferences
14:41:23 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:41:23 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Research Catalogue Topic Review - Current Survey results" taken up [from shadi]
14:41:35 <annika> zakim, ??P16 is me
14:41:35 <Zakim> +annika; got it
14:41:38 <mhakkinen> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/RDWG-170215/results
14:41:41 <annika> zakim, mute me
14:41:41 <Zakim> annika should now be muted
14:42:17 <mhakkinen> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Research_Catalogue
14:43:43 <sloandr> Sorry, I thought I'd completed this one! I'll fill it in before next call
14:44:22 <annika> zakim, unmute me
14:44:22 <Zakim> annika should no longer be muted
14:45:02 <annika> zakim, mute me
14:45:02 <Zakim> annika should now be muted
14:46:36 <shadi> MH: no new results
14:46:44 <shadi> SAZ: were people notified?
14:46:50 <shadi> MH: in the agenda
14:46:57 <shadi> VC: also reminder went out
14:47:38 <shadi> AN: said March 10th
14:50:55 <shadi> MH: looking at survey results
14:51:17 <shadi> ...not sure what the research question is around HTML5 support
14:51:31 <shadi> SAZ: can imagine questions around technology evolution
14:51:40 <shadi> VC: could check with Silvia
14:52:29 <shadi> MH: also around browser compatibility
14:52:41 <shadi> ...have been looking at web components
14:52:53 <shadi> ..and the role of polyfills
14:53:41 <shadi> VC: like the idea of biometrics
14:54:48 <shadi> MH: keep separate or part of security?
14:55:04 <shadi> SAZ: hard to slice things that are not slicable
14:55:26 <shadi> VC: could be part of security
14:55:45 <shadi> q+
14:56:14 <annika> q+
14:56:22 <shadi> q- later
14:56:34 <shadi> YM: could be part
14:56:40 <shadi> ...to reduce number of topics
14:56:51 <shadi> ...but maybe have sub-topics
14:57:17 <shadi> ...with headers of broad topics
14:57:32 <shadi> ack an
14:57:43 <sloandr> q+
14:57:50 <shadi> AN: agree with Yehya that we have lots topics
14:58:02 <shadi> ...but think that the two topics seem separate
14:58:07 <shadi> q- later
14:58:41 <Yehya> q+
14:58:55 <shadi> ...confused about the research catalog
14:59:20 <shadi> ack me
15:00:13 <annika> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Catalogue_Topics ?
15:01:40 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/process.html#topics
15:02:12 <Yehya> q-
15:02:44 <mhakkinen> ack sloandr
15:02:58 <annika> zakim, mute me
15:02:58 <Zakim> annika should now be muted
15:03:27 <shadi> DS: think should organize according to research topix
15:03:40 <shadi> ...to relate to user task and what they are trying to do
15:03:53 <shadi> q+
15:06:10 <mhakkinen> +q
15:06:19 <shadi> ack me
15:08:12 <Yehya> q+
15:08:24 <shadi> MH: thinking could organize in-line with W3C domain or principles
15:09:44 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/standards/
15:11:50 <mhakkinen> ack yehya
15:12:08 <shadi> YM: some headings have keywords in parenthesis
15:12:12 <mhakkinen> ack me
15:12:17 <shadi> ...suggest adding this consistently
15:12:24 <shadi> ...helps to understand the meaning
15:12:41 <shadi> ...some clear but some are ambiguous
15:13:07 <shadi> q?
15:15:30 <shadi> zakim, take up next
15:15:30 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Tips for Accessibility Aware Research" taken up [from shadi]
15:15:55 <mhakkinen> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Tips_for_Accessibility-Aware_Research
15:16:26 <shadi> DS: charter deliverable, started in september 2013
15:17:22 <shadi> ...share collected knowledge to help make researchers aware of their potential contributions
15:17:33 <shadi> ...so far just a skeleton of the document
15:18:00 <shadi> ...address both research with little knowledge of accessibility
15:18:48 <shadi> ...to introduce the models, APIs, and other aspects
15:19:09 <shadi> ...helps orient themselves and find where they can most contribute
15:19:45 <shadi> ...also information on how to include diversity
15:20:07 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
15:20:07 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
15:20:22 <shadi> ...and a section on how to involve people with disabilities in research
15:20:33 <shadi> ...also on reporting findings in an inclusive way
15:20:50 <shadi> ...secondary audience is people who support research
15:21:17 <shadi> ...for example for funders to reference for project grants
15:22:51 <shadi> ...need to agree on ths outline or refine it
15:22:53 <shadi> q+
15:22:59 <shadi> ack me
15:24:44 <shadi> SAZ: think this is really great
15:24:49 <shadi> ...but lots in there
15:24:55 <shadi> ...thinking of managing scope
15:25:05 <shadi> ...maybe also working with other groups
15:25:26 <shadi> ...leveraging existing resources
15:25:26 <shadi> ...could be an entire book!
15:25:29 <shadi> DS: completely agree
15:25:39 <shadi> ...use resources where they exist
15:25:56 <shadi> ...but put them in a way that helps people new to accessibility
15:26:53 <Vivienne> q+
15:27:00 <Vivienne> zakim, ack me
15:27:00 <Zakim> unmuting Vivienne
15:27:01 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
15:27:01 <shadi> q+
15:27:17 <shadi> MH: look back at this in one month?
15:27:27 <shadi> VC: what kind of input would you want from the group?
15:28:22 <shadi> DS: what kinds of things new researchers are looking for
15:28:26 <shadi> ...like the discussion we had at W4A in Seoul
15:28:42 <shadi> VC: good idea
15:29:06 <shadi> ...maybe also ask for additional references
15:29:37 <shadi> DS: yes - and everybody can comment on this document
15:31:04 <shadi> SAZ: agree with the suggestion
15:31:36 <shadi> ...maybe also get the group to re-review the outline
15:31:41 <shadi> ...to remind themselves
15:31:51 <shadi> Topic: Next Meeting
15:32:08 <Zakim> -sloandr
15:32:09 <annika> bye
15:32:09 <Zakim> -Markku
15:32:09 <Zakim> -Yehya
15:32:14 <Zakim> -annika
15:32:22 <shadi> NEXT MEETING: 11 March 2015
15:32:26 <Zakim> -Vivienne
15:32:27 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:32:29 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
15:32:29 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Markku, sloandr, Yehya, Vivienne, annika
15:32:52 <annika> annika has left #rd
15:57:54 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
15:57:54 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:57:55 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
15:58:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:58:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/02/25-rd-minutes.html trackbot
15:58:03 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:58:03 <RRSAgent> I see no action items