14:00:19 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined &webtv
14:00:19 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-irc
14:00:29 <ddavis> zakim, room for 2?
14:00:30 <Zakim> ok, ddavis; conference Team_(webtv)14:00Z scheduled with code 83262 (TEAM2) for 60 minutes until 1500Z
14:01:13 <Zakim> Team_(webtv)14:00Z has now started
14:01:19 <Zakim> +??P3
14:01:24 <ddavis> zakim, ??P3 is me
14:01:24 <Zakim> +ddavis; got it
14:02:59 <ddavis> Hi Karen
14:32:10 <Karen> Hi Daniel, I thought we were doing a Skype call today and did not see you there :(
14:32:28 <Karen> Are you on another call now?
14:33:04 <ddavis> No, I'm ready in TEAM2 but I can do Skype instead.
14:33:39 <ddavis> I stop Zakim and switch to Skype.
14:33:44 <Zakim> -ddavis
14:33:45 <Zakim> Team_(webtv)14:00Z has ended
14:33:45 <Zakim> Attendees were ddavis
14:33:58 <Karen> what is TEAM2?
14:34:10 <ddavis> It was an ad-hoc call.
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15:55:33 <kaz> zakim, this will be webtv
15:55:34 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, kaz
15:55:39 <kaz> zakim, this will be tv
15:55:39 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, kaz
15:55:45 <kaz> zakim, this will be ggia
15:55:45 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, kaz
15:55:47 <kaz> zakim, this will be ggie
15:55:47 <Zakim> ok, kaz; I see WEBT_GGIE TF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
15:57:03 <Zakim> WEBT_GGIE TF()11:00AM has now started
15:57:10 <Zakim> + +1.913.241.aaaa
15:57:38 <Paul_Higgs> Paul_Higgs has joined #webtv
15:57:39 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:57:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.913.241.aaaa
15:57:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Paul_Higgs, RRSAgent, Zakim, glennd, _M_, kaz, jcverdie, sangwhan, timeless, MarkS, schuki, richt, tobie_, trackbot
15:58:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
15:58:14 <NiloMitra> NiloMitra has joined #webtv
15:58:29 <BillR> BillR has joined #webtv
15:58:35 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
15:58:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.913.241.aaaa
15:58:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see BillR, NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, RRSAgent, Zakim, glennd, _M_, kaz, jcverdie, sangwhan, timeless, MarkS, schuki, richt, tobie_, trackbot
15:58:50 <gmandyam> gmandyam has joined #webtv
15:58:50 <Zakim> +Paul_Higgs
15:59:14 <Zakim> + +1.860.313.aabb
15:59:17 <yosuke> yosuke has joined #webtv
15:59:37 <NiloMitra> +1913241aaa is me
15:59:37 <Zakim> + +1.818.370.aacc
16:00:13 <Zakim> +??P6
16:00:16 <Zakim> + +33.5.34.31.aadd
16:00:45 <kaz> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:00:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.913.241.aaaa, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, ??P6, +33.5.34.31.aadd
16:00:47 <NiloMitra> +!.913.241.8004 is NiloMitra
16:00:49 <Zakim> + +1.813.508.aaee
16:01:09 <mateuszk> mateuszk has joined #webtv
16:01:09 <Zakim> + +8339aaff
16:01:13 <ddavis> ddavis has joined #webtv
16:01:16 <Zakim> + +1.619.838.aagg
16:01:22 <kaz> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, ??P6, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, +1.619.838.aagg
16:01:25 <NiloMitra> aaaa is me
16:01:36 <timeless> s/aaaa is me//
16:01:44 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:01:51 <Zakim> + +1.858.202.aahh
16:01:52 <kaz> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, ??P6, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, +1.619.838.aagg, [IPcaller], +1.858.202.aahh
16:01:59 <yosuke> Zakim, IPcaller is me\
16:01:59 <Zakim> +me\; got it
16:02:11 <Zakim> + +1.813.366.aaii
16:02:14 <azamlerc> azamlerc has joined #webtv
16:02:15 <glennd> bill rose is scribe volutneer
16:02:20 <jianz> jianz has joined #webtv
16:02:34 <azamlerc> Hi folks. Andrew Zamler-Carhart from Cisco.
16:02:34 <glennd> (1) Roll Call (2) Adoption of 1-14-15 minutes (3) Agenda Bash (4) Face-face dates discussion (5) Use Case solicitation continued     (A) Should advertising cases be added     (B) IPv4 & IPv6 or just IPv6     (C) CDNs , local device storage, local cache, shared caches     (D) network transition situations - crossing from a mobile network into wifi etc,     (E) any future device/network scenarios we should talk about exploring (6) proposal: use case groupings [CUT]
16:02:45 <kaz> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:02:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, ??P6, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, +1.619.838.aagg, yosuke, +1.858.202.aahh,
16:02:48 <Zakim> ... +1.813.366.aaii
16:03:09 <Zakim> +??P40
16:03:14 <ddavis> zakim, ??P40 is me
16:03:14 <Zakim> +ddavis; got it
16:03:28 <kaz> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:03:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, ??P6, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, +1.619.838.aagg, yosuke, +1.858.202.aahh,
16:03:29 <glennd> (1) Roll Call <b/>(2) Adoption of 1-14-15 minutes <b/>(3) Agenda Bash (4) Face-face dates discussion (5) Use Case solicitation continued     (A) Should advertising cases be added     (B) IPv4 & IPv6 or
16:03:31 <Zakim> ... +1.813.366.aaii, ddavis
16:03:41 <glennd> (1) Roll Call
16:03:49 <glennd> (2) Adoption of 1-14-15 minutes
16:03:55 <glennd> (3) Agenda Bash
16:03:56 <Zakim> +Leslie_Daigle
16:04:05 <glennd> (4) Face-face dates discussion
16:04:08 <mateuszk> mateuszk has joined #webtv
16:04:18 <kaz> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:04:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, ??P6, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, +1.619.838.aagg, yosuke, +1.858.202.aahh,
16:04:21 <glennd> (5) Use Case solicitation continued
16:04:21 <Zakim> ... +1.813.366.aaii, ddavis, Leslie_Daigle
16:05:07 <BillR> Glenn did a roll call
16:05:35 <ddavis> Today's agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2015Jan/0011.html
16:05:50 <Zakim> -??P6
16:05:55 <_M_> _M_ is Mohammed Dadas
16:06:43 <kaz> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2015Jan/0011.html
16:06:51 <ldaigle> ldaigle has joined #webtv
16:06:58 <Zakim> + +33.4.89.12.aajj
16:07:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
16:08:10 <glennd> Glenn Deen
16:08:11 <BillR> Bill Rose attending
16:08:15 <ldaigle> Leslie Daigle
16:08:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:08:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
16:08:20 <azamlerc> Andrew Zamler-Carhart, Cisco
16:08:40 <BillR> Glenn called for any changes to the 1/14/15 minutes
16:08:41 <jianz> jianz: jian zhao
16:08:45 <mark_vickers> mark_vickers has joined #webtv
16:08:47 <Zakim> +gmandyam
16:08:49 <BillR> No changes - adopted without change
16:08:59 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:08:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, +1.619.838.aagg, yosuke, +1.858.202.aahh, +1.813.366.aaii,
16:08:59 <BillR> Glenn called for any changes/additions to agenda
16:09:02 <Zakim> ... ddavis, Leslie_Daigle, +33.4.89.12.aajj, gmandyam
16:09:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see mark_vickers, ldaigle, jianz, azamlerc, ddavis, yosuke, gmandyam, BillR, NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, RRSAgent, Zakim, glennd, _M_, kaz, jcverdie, sangwhan, timeless, MarkS,
16:09:04 <Zakim> ... schuki, richt, tobie_, trackbot
16:09:34 <BillR> There were no changes to the agenda. Adopted without change
16:09:46 <timeless> s/Hi Karen//
16:09:46 <timeless> s/Are you on another call now?//
16:09:46 <timeless> s/what is TEAM2?//
16:09:46 <timeless> s/It was an ad-hoc call.//
16:09:46 <timeless> s/+1913241aaa is me//
16:09:46 <timeless> s/+!.913.241.8004 is NiloMitra//
16:09:46 <timeless> s/bill rose is scribe volutneer/scribe: BillR/
16:09:50 <jgiacalo> jgiacalo has joined #webtv
16:09:50 <BillR> Glenn discussed the Face to Face Meeting
16:10:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
16:10:20 <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
16:10:29 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:10:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, +1.619.838.aagg, yosuke, +1.858.202.aahh, +1.813.366.aaii,
16:10:32 <Zakim> ... ddavis, Leslie_Daigle, +33.4.89.12.aajj, gmandyam, Mark_Vickers
16:10:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see jgiacalo, mark_vickers, ldaigle, jianz, azamlerc, ddavis, yosuke, gmandyam, BillR, NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, RRSAgent, Zakim, glennd, _M_, kaz, jcverdie, sangwhan,
16:10:32 <Zakim> ... timeless, MarkS, schuki, richt, tobie_, trackbot
16:10:42 <BillR> Glenn suggested that if the mini TPAC on April 13 is not a good choice.
16:10:56 <jgiacalo> Jean-Pierre Giacalone, Intel Corporation, joined IRC
16:11:13 <ddavis> Chair: Glenn Deen
16:11:13 <ldaigle> I seem to have plane tickets booked for dallas
16:11:27 <BillR> Glenn asked if the IETF meeting in Dallas March 23rd would be good
16:11:32 <azamlerc> I will be in New York, so could probably fly to Dallas.
16:11:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:11:38 <timeless> i/_M_ is Mohammed/topic: Roll Call/
16:11:54 <jgiacalo> Difficult to grant for me but possible
16:11:59 <kaz> Meeting: Web&TV IG GGIE TF
16:12:05 <timeless> i/any changes/topic: Adoption of 1-14-15 minutes/
16:12:14 <kaz> Chair: Glenn
16:12:18 <BillR> Several attendees said they would or could be there. Glenn will check for meeting space/options
16:12:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:12:24 <Zakim> + +1.650.576.aakk
16:12:28 <timeless> i/to agenda/topic: Agenda Bash/
16:12:33 <azamlerc> Boston is good for me!
16:13:00 <timeless> i/discussed/Face-face dates discussion/
16:13:01 <JP_Abello_> JP_Abello_ has joined #webtv
16:13:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
16:13:30 <timeless> s/Face-face dates discussion/topic: Face-face dates discussion/
16:13:31 <BillR> He asked for members to get back to him if anyone wanted to host a meeting and to propose alternative venues.
16:13:51 <timeless> s/Chair: Glenn//
16:13:57 <BillR> Agenda Item 5) Use Case Solicitation
16:14:06 <ddavis> zakim, mute me
16:14:06 <Zakim> ddavis should now be muted
16:14:14 <BillR> Glenn: Should advertising use cases be added?
16:14:24 <Bin_Hu> Bin_Hu has joined #webtv
16:14:29 <BillR> Also potentially for measurement?
16:15:00 <steve> steve has joined #webtv
16:15:04 <Zakim> +Bin_Hu
16:15:11 <BillR> ?? There are 2 types of advertising mechanisms
16:15:41 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:15:41 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, +1.619.838.aagg, yosuke, +1.858.202.aahh, +1.813.366.aaii,
16:15:45 <Zakim> ... ddavis (muted), Leslie_Daigle, +33.4.89.12.aajj, gmandyam, Mark_Vickers, +1.650.576.aakk, Bin_Hu
16:15:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see steve, Bin_Hu, JP_Abello_, jgiacalo, mark_vickers, ldaigle, jianz, azamlerc, ddavis, yosuke, gmandyam, BillR, NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, RRSAgent, Zakim, glennd, _M_, kaz,
16:15:45 <Zakim> ... jcverdie, sangwhan, timeless, MarkS, schuki, richt, tobie_, trackbot
16:16:00 <BillR> Would be good to be able to converge the 2 means of delivery
16:16:05 <timeless> i/any changes to/topic: Adoption of 1-14-15 minutes/
16:16:08 <timeless> s/topic: Adoption of 1-14-15 minutes//
16:16:12 <BillR> Glenn asked teh speaker to post the 2 standards he referenced
16:16:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
16:16:20 <timeless> s/teh/the/
16:16:39 <NiloMitra> VAST by Internet Advertising bureau and SCTE-130 series
16:16:45 <timeless> s/Agenda Item 5)/topic:/
16:16:58 <BillR> Glenn: Do they include AdIDs?
16:17:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
16:17:36 <BillR> There are best practices as to how to track. Not certain if there are AdIDs.
16:17:54 <BillR> Glenn: International/Global stds?
16:18:31 <BillR> Yes: SCTE is seen as global. The other is a consortium but has global reach.
16:18:49 <Zakim> + +1.818.777.aall
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16:19:42 <BillR> Mark Vickers: It is in the scope of the Web&TV IG but might not be in scope for GGIE. Advertising is normally not created with the content and will vary from dist to dist.
16:20:13 <BillR> Mark V; Encourage Web&TV IG to look at it.
16:21:10 <Zakim> + +1.908.745.aamm
16:21:56 <BillR> Glenn: In scenarios of E2E delivery, some do include ads. When looking at delivery ads might affect delivery of content. Also the metadata assoc with content and ads could affect how the delivery is done.
16:22:16 <BillR> Mark V: It is the chairs call.
16:23:06 <BillR> Glenn: Lets continue discussions on ads and determine later if those use cases should remain.
16:23:22 <BillR> Glenn: More discussion? - No more discussion.
16:23:46 <BillR> Agenda 5b) IPv4 and IPv6  or just IPv6?
16:23:55 <Zakim> - +1.619.838.aagg
16:25:23 <Zakim> + +1.619.838.aann
16:25:27 <BillR> Glenn: IPv6 offers new scenarios not available in v4. Some scenarios might not be possible using v4. Should we describe the scenario or make it clear it is only possible in v6?
16:25:33 <Zakim> Zakim has left &webtv
16:25:34 <BillR> Glenn: Comments
16:27:33 <BillR> AT&T: Content dist thru CDN, etc. to home will be impacted. So we should identify the unique features of v6 that enable or require v6 to accomplish. If there is a gap we should identify.
16:27:43 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-skype
16:27:43 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
16:27:45 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
16:28:04 <Zakim> - +1.908.745.aamm
16:28:13 <kaz> zakim, drop kazuyuki
16:28:13 <Zakim> Kazuyuki is being disconnected
16:28:14 <Zakim> -Kazuyuki
16:28:25 <kaz> zakim, call kazuyuki-skype
16:28:25 <Zakim> ok, kaz; the call is being made
16:28:25 <yosuke> s/AT&T/Bin/
16:28:27 <Zakim> +Kazuyuki
16:28:43 <kaz> zakim, mute me
16:28:43 <Zakim> Kazuyuki should now be muted
16:29:04 <BillR> Cisco: Should support v6 as much as possible. v6 will not be unbiquitous but if something is operating in a specific environment that s v6 only we can identify that. Also identify where v4 would be supported.
16:29:26 <BillR> Glenn: Regarding mobile, are there things we need to do to support.
16:29:29 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:29:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, yosuke, +1.858.202.aahh, +1.813.366.aaii, ddavis (muted),
16:29:33 <Zakim> ... Leslie_Daigle, +33.4.89.12.aajj, gmandyam, Mark_Vickers, +1.650.576.aakk, Bin_Hu, +1.818.777.aall, +1.619.838.aann, Kazuyuki (muted)
16:29:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see wilkinm, steve, Bin_Hu, JP_Abello_, jgiacalo, mark_vickers, ldaigle, jianz, azamlerc, ddavis, yosuke, gmandyam, BillR, NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, RRSAgent, Zakim, glennd,
16:29:33 <Zakim> ... _M_, kaz, jcverdie, sangwhan, timeless, MarkS, schuki, richt, tobie_, trackbot
16:29:47 <ddavis> s/Cisco:/azamlerc:/
16:29:48 <BillR> Yes. Thereis a lot of discussion on v6 on mobile
16:30:26 <BillR> Glenn: We should reach out to get more research on mobile to determine if there are any issues/interactions between v4/6 with regard to mobile.
16:30:40 <yosuke> s/Thereis/There are/
16:31:05 <BillR> Glenn: Are there any volunteers to start the research? Yes: Andrew Cisco volunteered.
16:31:16 <azamlerc> What kind of support for IPv6 is there on mobile networks? Andrew Zamler-Carhart, Cisco to investigate.
16:32:00 <BillR> Agenda Item 5c) CDENs, local device storage, local cache, shared cache
16:32:36 <yosuke> s/CDEN/CDN/
16:32:43 <BillR> Glenn: Are there any other scenarios for caching we should incorporate into the discussions?
16:33:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:33:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:33:18 <BillR> There were no suggestions.
16:34:05 <BillR> Glenn: CDNi - cooperation between upstream/downstream CDNs?
16:34:16 <BillR> No responses.
16:35:17 <BillR> Glenn: CDNi within IETF - the work appears to be winding down. Glenn will touch base to determine if there is anything that we should address.
16:35:41 <BillR> Agenda Item 5d) network transistion situations - crossing from a mobile network into WiFi
16:37:15 <BillR> Glenn: Discussion have been taking place on how to transistion from mobile to WiFi as a person enters home/work, etc. Presents a problem if the connection is based on an ID/IP address,etc. Could interupt storage/cache being used during the original session. What do we need to be aware of
16:38:38 <BillR> Ans: Touches work at Cisco. Asking questions about how devices can support severa different network connections. IPv4 typically only has one interface. v6 can support multiple connections. If you have several IP addreses, there might be a ploicy issue directing the choice of IP.
16:40:00 <BillR> Glenn: DNS could be a more comlicated selection process. Might want to add on DNS issues in use cases. Choice of delivery channel needs to be addressed in this scenario.
16:40:29 <BillR> Agenda Item 5e: Any future device or network scenaios we should explore?
16:40:34 <timeless> s/Mark V;/mark_vickers:/
16:40:56 <timeless> s/Mark Vickers:/mark_vickers:/
16:41:20 <timeless> s/Mark V:/mark_vickers:/
16:41:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
16:41:46 <timeless> s/Agenda Item 5c)/topic:/
16:41:59 <timeless> s/Agenda Item 5d)/topic:/
16:42:09 <timeless> s/Agenda Item 5e:/topic:/
16:42:11 <BillR> Glenn/JP-Intel: If we bring in IoT, how does that change the situation?
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16:42:45 <timeless> s/Agenda 5b)/topic:/
16:43:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
16:43:06 <BillR> JP: Want to reach displays anywhere? Refrig, etc.? Wearables?
16:43:49 <timeless> s/No responses./[ No responses. ]/
16:44:00 <timeless> s/There were no suggestions./[ There were no suggestions. ]/
16:44:11 <BillR> Bill Rose: Screen synchronization across devices of different capabilities?>
16:44:49 <timeless> s|Today's agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2015Jan/0011.html||
16:45:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:45:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:45:25 <BillR> Mark V: Soem work is being done on second screen. Some will be IoT devices. GGIE is not stds body but might do work that applies to IoT devices so it is appropriate but not the same as addresing all IoT device issues.
16:45:34 <azamlerc> Have a look at the W3C Web & TV project called Shared Motion for synchronizing video across multiple screens.
16:45:37 <timeless> s/Mark V:/mark_vickers:/
16:45:39 <kaz> s/Bill Rose:/Bill_Rose:/
16:45:44 <azamlerc> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Use_Cases#10._.22Use_Case_Ten_.E2.80.93_Sync_Among_Browser-_and_non-Browser_Devices.22
16:45:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:46:20 <BillR> ?? W3C WebTV IG is doing work on shared motion.
16:46:37 <timeless> s/Also potentially/... Also potentially/
16:46:39 <BillR> ?? Is this a part of content creation/dist or part of playback?
16:46:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/28-webtv-minutes.html timeless
16:46:46 <BillR> Glenn: What is shared motion.
16:46:54 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:47:30 <BillR> Link was posted in IRC. Web browser on several screens allow you to get frame accurate playback on multi-screens. Frame Sync.
16:47:41 <ddavis> Latest Shared Motion disussion: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2015Jan/0005.html
16:48:59 <BillR> Glenn: Summerized. In general IoT are in scope for GGIE, but we should not get involved into areas that are not a part of E2E content delivery. There might also be overlap with other work being done in W3C. We should be aware of that work but stay focused on E2E content.
16:49:04 <timeless> s|Latest Shared Motion disussion: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2015Jan/0005.html|-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2015Jan/0005.html Latest Shared Motion disussion|
16:49:59 <timeless> s/?>/?/
16:50:03 <kaz> q+ to ask if we want to have a joint meeting with the WoT IG during TPAC 2015
16:50:09 <timeless> s/Soem/Some/
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16:50:59 <timeless> s|http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Use_Cases#10._.22Use_Case_Ten_.E2.80.93_Sync_Among_Browser-_and_non-Browser_Devices.22|-> http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs/Use_Cases#10._.22Use_Case_Ten_.E2.80.93_Sync_Among_Browser-_and_non-Browser_Devices.22 "Use Case Ten – Sync Among Browser- and non-Browser Devices"|
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16:52:18 <timeless> s/transistion/transition/g
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16:52:24 <BillR> Glenn: Propose a breakdown use cases into priorities and how they are linked even if separate. e.g. categories of related use cases. Will make it easier to later look at related metadata aspects of the use cases.
16:53:04 <BillR> This was for agenda item 6.
16:53:37 <BillR> 6a) Camera capture scenarios
16:53:43 <timeless> s/interupt/interrupt/
16:53:43 <timeless> s/addreses/addresses/
16:53:43 <timeless> s/ploicy/policy/
16:53:43 <timeless> s/comlicated/complicated/
16:53:43 <timeless> s/scenaios/scenarios/
16:53:43 <timeless> s/disussion/discussion/
16:53:43 <timeless> s/Summerized/Summarized/
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16:55:01 <BillR> Glenn: multiple cameras capturing same scene different angles. Needs metadata to coordinate/identify session, etc. for capture, storage, editing, etc. Even consumers are doing this today.
16:55:53 <kaz> s/6a)/topic:/
16:56:01 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:56:37 <kaz> q?
16:57:17 <Zakim> -Mark_Vickers
16:57:41 <BillR> As the content moves through steaming, storage, editing, packaging and encoding, archiving, etc. the metadata needs to be created, follow and will be added/altered by different actors yet be linked.
16:57:57 <kaz> s/As the content/... As the content/
16:58:19 <Zakim> - +1.619.838.aann
16:58:21 <BillR> Some metadata may be commercial - sold/licensed, etc.
16:58:38 <kaz> s/Some metadata/... Some metadate/
16:58:41 <BillR> Used in search, discovery.
16:58:54 <kaz> s/Used in/... Used in
16:58:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:59:21 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:59:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, yosuke, +1.858.202.aahh, +1.813.366.aaii, ddavis (muted),
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16:59:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see mark_vickers, joe_winograd, wilkinm, steve, Bin_Hu, JP_Abello_, jgiacalo, ldaigle, jianz, azamlerc, ddavis, yosuke, gmandyam, BillR, NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, RRSAgent,
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16:59:43 <BillR> Need to look at workflows
16:59:54 <kaz> s/Need to/... Need to/
16:59:58 <kaz> zakim, who is here?
16:59:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see NiloMitra, Paul_Higgs, +1.860.313.aabb, +1.818.370.aacc, +33.5.34.31.aadd, +1.813.508.aaee, +8339aaff, yosuke, +1.858.202.aahh, +1.813.366.aaii, ddavis (muted),
17:00:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:00:35 <BillR> Glenn - continued: Need to examine home/consumer network scenarios
17:00:57 <BillR> Glenn: Is this a good grouping - good place to start? - Yes
17:01:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:01:16 <kaz> q?
17:01:21 <BillR> Glenn: Is there anything else anyone wants to discuss?
17:01:34 <BillR> Mike: Are you asking people to start writing use cases?
17:02:03 <Zakim> +Mark_Vickers
17:02:11 <kaz> ack k
17:02:12 <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to ask if we want to have a joint meeting with the WoT IG during TPAC 2015
17:02:16 <BillR> Glenn: Suggest by submitting use cases and ask for volunteers to explore them.
17:02:50 <BillR> Glenn: Need to get some "seed" scenarios to start the discussions.
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17:05:21 <BillR> Glenn: Either send your scenarios to the WIKI or submit to Glenn. Then submit your list of any you want to explore. At the face to face we can start to flesh out the higher priority use cases together.
17:05:31 <BillR> Glenn: Next meeting, Feb 11, 2015.
17:06:21 <BillR> Kaz: Que: Wondering if we should speak to IoT IG about potential of a joint meeting?
17:06:52 <BillR> Glenn: Might be premature. Perhaps after the F2F meeting we will have a better idea of what we need to do in this area..
17:07:16 <BillR> Glenn: Will address this after the F2F meeting.
17:07:18 <Zakim> -gmandyam
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17:07:22 <glennd> bye all
17:07:22 <ldaigle> thanks  — bye
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17:07:25 <BillR> End of call.
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