08:47:09 RRSAgent has joined #sdw 08:47:09 logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-sdw-irc 08:47:14 Zakim has joined #sdw 08:47:21 RRSAgent, make logs public 08:47:27 zakim, this will be sdw 08:47:27 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, phila 08:47:31 zakim, this will be sdwwg 08:47:31 ok, phila; I see DATA_(SPATIAL)4:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes 08:48:03 aharth has joined #sdw 08:50:37 DATA_(SPATIAL)4:00AM has now started 08:50:44 +[IPcaller] 08:51:22 +[IPcaller.a] 08:51:26 kerry has joined #sdw 08:51:27 zakim, ipcaller.a is me 08:51:27 +phila; got it 08:51:51 zakim, who is here? 08:51:51 On the phone I see [IPcaller], phila 08:51:53 On IRC I see kerry, aharth, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, AndreaP, emilio, guillermo, trackbot 08:52:11 zakim, ipcaller is me 08:52:11 +kerry; got it 08:52:12 alfonso has joined #sdw 08:53:00 Hi 08:53:15 Payam has joined #sdw 08:55:05 +??P2 08:55:20 Zakim, ??P2 is me 08:55:20 +emilio; got it 08:55:22 ack kerry 08:55:28 q+ kerry 08:55:33 ack kerry 08:55:35 chrislittle has joined #sdw 08:55:43 ack kerry 08:55:44 Alejandro_Llaves has joined #sdw 08:55:52 queue? 08:55:57 q? 08:55:57 Danh-DERI has joined #sdw 08:55:58 +??P4 08:55:59 +[IPcaller] 08:56:00 q? 08:56:13 zakim, ??P4 is me 08:56:13 +guillermo; got it 08:56:45 Zakim, IP caller is me 08:56:45 I don't understand 'IP caller is me', Payam 08:56:53 +??P5 08:56:56 Zakim, IPcaller is me 08:56:56 +Payam; got it 08:57:01 Zakim, ??P5 is me 08:57:01 +alfonso; got it 08:57:04 zakim, who is here? 08:57:04 On the phone I see kerry, phila, emilio, guillermo, Payam, alfonso 08:57:06 On IRC I see Danh-DERI, Alejandro_Llaves, chrislittle, Payam, alfonso, kerry, aharth, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, AndreaP, emilio, guillermo, trackbot 08:57:22 armin has joined #sdw 08:58:00 phila has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150122 08:58:11 chair: Kerry 08:58:12 ramonalcarria has joined #sdw 08:58:17 scribe: phila 08:58:39 agenda: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150122 08:59:28 Cory_Henson has joined #sdw 08:59:31 regrets+ John Machin, Raphael Troncy, Simon Cox, Andrew Radcliffe, Clemens Portele, BillR 08:59:35 zakim, who is here? 08:59:35 On the phone I see kerry, phila, emilio, guillermo, Payam, alfonso 08:59:37 On IRC I see Cory_Henson, ramonalcarria, armin, Danh-DERI, Alejandro_Llaves, chrislittle, Payam, alfonso, kerry, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, AndreaP, emilio, guillermo, trackbot 08:59:48 + +44.207.881.aaaa 08:59:51 rrsagent, draft minutes 08:59:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-sdw-minutes.html phila 09:00:28 Krzysztof_Janowicz has joined #sdw 09:00:28 .me take a look at http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-sdw-minutes.html 09:00:30 eparsons has joined #sdw 09:00:36 Hi 09:00:57 aharth has joined #sdw 09:01:00 Meeting: Inaugural Spatial Data on the Web WG Meeting 09:01:22 zakim, who is here? 09:01:22 On the phone I see kerry, phila, emilio, guillermo, Payam, alfonso, +44.207.881.aaaa 09:01:24 On IRC I see aharth, eparsons, Krzysztof_Janowicz, Cory_Henson, ramonalcarria, armin, Danh-DERI, Alejandro_Llaves, chrislittle, Payam, alfonso, kerry, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, 09:01:24 ... AndreaP, emilio, guillermo, trackbot 09:01:31 zakim, aaaa is me 09:01:31 +eparsons; got it 09:01:35 the zakim number on the email seems to not work for me 09:01:38 Ashok_Malhotra has joined #sdw 09:01:41 + +1.937.422.aabb 09:02:00 The number is +1.617.761.6200 09:02:14 linda has joined #sdw 09:02:25 I cannot dial in via +1.617.761.620 09:02:31 +Ashok_Malhotra 09:02:36 neither can I 09:02:38 RachelH has joined #sdw 09:02:38 right, there was a 0 missing 09:02:44 + +44.207.800.aacc 09:02:55 +[IPcaller] 09:03:08 zakim, aabb is Cory_Henson 09:03:08 +Cory_Henson; got it 09:03:11 +??P10 09:03:18 jtandy has joined #sdw 09:03:30 +[IPcaller.a] 09:03:58 + +61.4.331.2.aadd 09:04:00 zakim, aacc is chrislittle 09:04:00 +chrislittle; got it 09:04:03 + +31.61.355.aaee 09:04:04 +??P14 09:04:18 zakim, +61 is armin 09:04:18 +armin; got it 09:04:20 zakim, ??P14 is me 09:04:20 +jtandy; got it 09:04:26 zakim, ipcaller is Krzysztof_Janowicz 09:04:26 +Krzysztof_Janowicz; got it 09:04:34 +??P16 09:04:34 zakim, +??P10 is me 09:04:34 zakim, who is noisy? 09:04:35 sorry, AndreaP, I do not recognize a party named '+??P10' 09:04:44 + +1.857.919.aaff 09:04:46 phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: kerry (20%), phila (50%), alfonso (29%), ??P10 (1%), +31.61.355.aaee (73%) 09:04:47 zakim, ??P10 is me 09:04:47 +AndreaP; got it 09:04:50 +[IPcaller] 09:05:00 zakim, [IPcaller.a] is aharth 09:05:00 +aharth; got it 09:05:11 Ingo has joined #sdw 09:05:27 zakim, aaee is linda 09:05:27 +linda; got it 09:05:33 -[IPcaller] 09:05:36 zakim, who is here? 09:05:36 On the phone I see kerry, phila, emilio, guillermo, Payam, alfonso, eparsons, Cory_Henson, Ashok_Malhotra, chrislittle, Krzysztof_Janowicz, AndreaP, aharth, armin, linda, jtandy, 09:05:39 ... ??P16, +1.857.919.aaff 09:05:39 On IRC I see Ingo, jtandy, RachelH, linda, Ashok_Malhotra, aharth, eparsons, Krzysztof_Janowicz, Cory_Henson, ramonalcarria, armin, Danh-DERI, Alejandro_Llaves, chrislittle, Payam, 09:05:39 ... alfonso, kerry, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, AndreaP, emilio, guillermo, trackbot 09:05:46 zakim, mute linda 09:05:46 linda should now be muted 09:05:59 JoshLieberman has joined #sdw 09:06:04 thanks linda much better 09:06:10 +[IPcaller] 09:06:13 zakim, unmute linda 09:06:13 linda should no longer be muted 09:06:23 + +3539149aagg 09:06:30 zakim, mute linda 09:06:30 linda should now be muted 09:06:48 +3539149aagg is me, Danh Le Phuoc 09:06:50 zakim, aagg is Danh-DERI 09:06:50 +Danh-DERI; got it 09:06:59 zakim, who is here? 09:06:59 On the phone I see kerry, phila, emilio, guillermo, Payam, alfonso, eparsons, Cory_Henson, Ashok_Malhotra, chrislittle, Krzysztof_Janowicz, AndreaP, aharth, armin, linda (muted), 09:07:02 ... jtandy, ??P16, +1.857.919.aaff, [IPcaller], Danh-DERI 09:07:02 On IRC I see JoshLieberman, Ingo, jtandy, RachelH, linda, Ashok_Malhotra, aharth, eparsons, Krzysztof_Janowicz, Cory_Henson, ramonalcarria, armin, Danh-DERI, Alejandro_Llaves, 09:07:02 ... chrislittle, Payam, alfonso, kerry, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, AndreaP, emilio, guillermo, trackbot 09:07:08 zakim, ipcaller is me, Ingo 09:07:08 I don't understand 'ipcaller is me, Ingo', Ingo 09:07:25 -??P16 09:07:36 ioannis has joined #sdw 09:07:37 zakim, ipcaller is Ingo 09:07:37 +Ingo; got it 09:07:46 catherine has joined #sdw 09:07:47 +??P16 09:07:55 zakim, aaff is JoshLieberman 09:07:55 +JoshLieberman; got it 09:08:13 zakim, who is here? 09:08:13 On the phone I see kerry, phila, emilio, guillermo, Payam, alfonso, eparsons, Cory_Henson, Ashok_Malhotra, chrislittle, Krzysztof_Janowicz, AndreaP, aharth, armin, linda (muted), 09:08:16 ... jtandy, JoshLieberman, Ingo, Danh-DERI, ??P16 09:08:16 On IRC I see catherine, ioannis, JoshLieberman, Ingo, jtandy, RachelH, linda, Ashok_Malhotra, aharth, eparsons, Krzysztof_Janowicz, Cory_Henson, ramonalcarria, armin, Danh-DERI, 09:08:16 ... Alejandro_Llaves, chrislittle, Payam, alfonso, kerry, Zakim, RRSAgent, phila, AndreaP, emilio, guillermo, trackbot 09:08:54 am hearing very well! 09:08:59 Topic: Introductions 09:09:07 kerry: Introduces herself 09:09:49 kerry: Describes scribing and lets people know that you, yes, you, will need to take your turn in due course! 09:10:05 kerry: Reads OGC IPR statement 09:10:19 ... https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call 09:10:50 chaals has joined #sdw 09:10:59 ... any responses? 09:11:08 ... none heard 09:11:37 chrislittle: The OGC people by default have this consensus by silence. We don't all have to explicitly say "no" 09:11:46 ThiagoAvila has joined #sdw 09:11:46 kerry: Introduces herself 09:11:54 +[IPcaller] 09:12:12 zakim, [ip is chaals 09:12:12 +chaals; got it 09:12:46 kerry: In the context of this meeting - a lot of you attended the workshop we had in London last March http://www.w3.org/2014/03/lgd/report 09:12:56 ThiagoA has joined #sdw 09:13:05 ... lots of work since then to get us to this point today 09:13:18 ... I'm co-chairing with Ed Parsons 09:13:32 AlejandroLlaves has joined #sdw 09:13:46 ... bit of a learning curve for us all as we learn each other's methods 09:14:01 eparsons: Hi, I work for Google, based in London 09:14:11 ... background in traditional GIS, ex-CTO at Ordnance Survey 09:14:36 ... want to make sure that the work we do has application for end users, keeping developers in mind 09:14:59 ... Kerry and I cover both hemispheres. We're going to have to handle the differnet time zones 09:15:09 ... don't be afraid to make yourself heard 09:15:17 ... we'll all have to get used to the way W3C systems work 09:15:34 It's the middle fo summer! 09:15:46 topic: Introductions of members/Tour de Table 09:16:12 Kerry: Please introduce yourself in about 15 seconds 09:16:13 q+ to introduce myself 09:16:30 kerry: Introduces the queue system 09:16:31 q+ to introduce jtandy 09:16:35 q+ 09:16:38 q+ to introduce myself 09:16:40 q+ 09:16:42 q+ 09:16:44 quuue? 09:16:45 q+ 09:16:49 q? 09:16:49 ackchaals 09:16:55 ack me 09:16:55 chaals, you wanted to introduce myself 09:16:55 ack chaals 09:16:57 q+ 09:16:57 q+ 09:17:00 q+ 09:17:01 q+ 09:17:02 q+ 09:17:08 chaals: Hi, I'm Charles, I work for Yandex 09:17:10 q+ 09:17:11 q+ 09:17:11 q+ 09:17:19 queue? 09:17:21 ... primary representative for Yandex will prob be Sergei Konstantinos 09:17:22 q+ 09:17:28 ack jtandy 09:17:28 jtandy, you wanted to introduce jtandy 09:17:41 s/tinos/tinov/ 09:17:42 jtandy: Hi, work for UK Met Office, members of both SDOs 09:18:00 ack chrislittle 09:18:03 ... my interest is in how OGC standards can fit into the wider Web architecture 09:18:09 zakim, who is making noise? 09:18:20 chaals, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: kerry (40%), phila (9%), eparsons (28%), Ashok_Malhotra (9%), chrislittle (65%), jtandy (14%) 09:18:24 q+ 09:18:28 chrislittle: I'm working with Jeremy at the Met Office 09:18:36 +q 09:18:45 ... been involved in OGC for last 5 yaers, Chaired a couple of OGC groups 09:18:47 q+ 09:19:01 ... need to coinvince the world that that's it's not 3D but 5D. WE work a lot with the WMO 09:19:08 q? 09:19:15 ack linda 09:19:16 linda, you wanted to introduce myself 09:19:23 ack linda 09:19:49 linda: I work for Geonovum, nat standards body for geospatial data. Also co-chair of Dutch National Linbked Data 09:19:51 zakim, mute me 09:19:51 chaals should now be muted 09:20:01 ack aharth 09:20:13 kerry: Explains that the OGC group here is a sub group of a group that Linda chairs 09:20:33 aharth: Andreas Harth, worked on NeoGeo vocabulary 09:20:41 zakim, who is noisy? 09:20:45 ack armin 09:20:53 phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: kerry (1%), phila (33%), eparsons (54%), armin (29%), linda (8%), ??P16 (14%) 09:21:00 armin: zakim, mute eparsons 09:21:07 +??P21 09:21:10 armin: zakim, unmute eparsons 09:21:19 zakim, mute ??p21 09:21:19 ??P21 should now be muted 09:21:20 lot of noise 09:21:21 zakim, mute eparsons 09:21:21 eparsons should now be muted 09:21:28 ack Krzy 09:21:30 armin: worked at CSIRO with kerry until recently, working with ssn in various projects 09:21:31 … now lecturer at Australian National University, also in Canberra 09:21:31 … W3C Office Manager for Australia 09:22:12 np muted my device 09:22:15 Krzysztof_Janowicz: Introduces self, following Armin 09:22:24 ack krzysztof_Janowicz 09:22:24 q+ 09:22:42 Ashok_Malhotra: I'm with Oracle. I;m an old standards hand 09:22:44 ack ashok_Malhotra 09:22:48 ... been doing W3C stuff since late 90s 09:23:03 ... XML schema, query, Web Services, RDB to RDF and now Linked Data 09:23:29 I finally can hear you! :) 09:23:34 ... what I also ought to mention is that oracle is very interested in this WG because we have an old spatial data product that you can work with spatial data 09:23:44 ... you can work with spatial on an Oracle DB 09:23:46 ack JoshLieberman 09:24:13 JoshLieberman: I'm affiliated with the OGC and the Harvard Centre for Geographic analysis 09:24:30 ... I also chaired the geospatial inclubaot back in 2006 so I have had some involvement with W3C in the past 09:24:33 ack AndreaP 09:24:59 AndreaP: I'm Andrea Perego from the Join Research Centre at the EC on the INSPIRE implementation 09:25:08 ... also contributed to development at the locn vocab 09:25:24 ack Payam 09:25:26 ... co-chair of the LOCADD CG 09:25:49 Payam: I'm at the University of Surrey on IoT and Sem Web, was involved in SSN, work on smart cities etc. 09:25:54 ack Cory_henson 09:26:27 ack emilio 09:26:28 Cory_Henson: I'm now at BOSCH Research and Tech centre. Worked with Kerry, Krystof and Kerry, now working on IoT 09:26:59 emilio: I am Emilio from CTIC, working in the smeantic team here (CTIC is in Northern Spain) 09:27:11 ... working on ?? ontology with developed geographical model 09:27:15 q? 09:27:16 ack guillermo 09:27:35 zakim, who is making noise? 09:27:47 ack alfonso 09:27:48 guillermo: I work with Emilio. I have a more tech background on SemWeb. Helping auto-generation and vis of data 09:27:50 chaals, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: kerry (34%), emilio (10%), guillermo (49%), alfonso (4%), chrislittle (9%) 09:28:10 alfonso: Also from CTIC. here to see what we can contribute 09:28:12 ack thiagoa 09:28:15 zakim, mute chrislittle 09:28:15 chrislittle should now be muted 09:28:34 ThiagoA?? 09:28:48 zakim, unmute me 09:28:48 eparsons should no longer be muted 09:28:58 ack ramonalcarria 09:29:31 ramonalcarria: This is Ramon from University Polytechnic Madrid. Working on Smart Open Data project with PhilA. Interested in geo systems 09:29:45 s/Join /Joint / 09:29:46 ... my first time accessing W3C group 09:30:20 I am here reading :) 09:30:23 AlejandroLlaves, are you going to introduce yourself? 09:30:36 queue? 09:30:37 can you hear me? 09:30:40 mute me 09:30:41 ack Danh 09:30:49 Alejandro: no 09:31:03 AlejandroLlaves: you're not in the queue 09:31:14 s/AlejandroLlaves: you're not in the queue// 09:31:14 I am here reading also, having trouble joining the call 09:31:15 Danh-DERI: We're from Ireland, Nat Uni of Ireland. Used to be DERI 09:31:24 ... lots of work on SemWeb. Now on IoT and SMart Cities 09:31:31 s/Alejandro: no// 09:31:34 ... projects on sensorware, middleware etc. 09:31:35 sorry. I will wait a new opportunity 09:31:40 s/mute me// 09:31:48 RachelH: call +16177616200 09:31:56 the number in the email was missing the last 0 09:32:08 s/sorry. I will wait a new opportunity// 09:32:17 Danh-DERI: Contributed to SSN and RDF Stream Data 09:32:28 s/I am here reading also, having trouble joining the call// 09:32:35 q+ ThiagoA 09:32:35 q+ ThiagoA 09:32:41 q- later 09:32:47 ack thiagoA 09:32:59 'm from Universidade Federal de Alagoas and Planning Department of Alagoas State Government, Brazil. I coordinate the implementation of Alagoas Open Data Portal (http://dados.al.gov.br) and GIS center of the Department. Now i am researching at University about Semantic Web and linked data for government. 09:33:10 s/I am here reading :)// 09:33:20 ack phila 09:33:23 s/AlejandroLlaves, are you going to introduce yourself?// 09:33:26 + +44.115.936.aahh 09:33:32 It is my first meeting at W3C 09:33:35 +[IPcaller] 09:33:36 rrsagent, draft minutes 09:33:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-sdw-minutes.html chaals 09:33:40 zakim, aahh is RachelH 09:33:40 +RachelH; got it 09:33:55 +q 09:34:06 queue? 09:34:30 RachelH: I've been at the British geological Survey for 15 years+. Ontology development, RDB, worked on our Linbked Data output a while back 09:34:36 q- later 09:34:43 ack ioannis 09:34:43 ack ioannis 09:35:08 ioannis: I'm with Demokritos in Greece, worked on Agricultural sptial data 09:35:14 s/Linbked/Linked 09:35:15 ack phila 09:35:18 s/AlejandroLlaves: you're not in the queue// 09:35:31 s|s/AlejandroLlaves: you're not in the queue//|| 09:35:41 s/can you hear me?// 09:35:44 s/sptial/spatial/ 09:35:58 s/Linbked/Linked/ 09:36:00 s/I finally can hear you! :)// 09:36:11 s/np muted my device// 09:36:17 rrsagent, draft minutes 09:36:17 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/22-sdw-minutes.html chaals 09:36:29 scriibe: me 09:36:40 s/me/chaals/ 09:36:46 s/scriibe/scribe/ 09:36:59 Phila: Working for W3C, very pleased to see this group get going. 09:37:19 … You'll notice some people on IRC are very active - and have used it before 09:37:21 s/working on ?? ontology/working on EMERGEL ontology/ 09:37:45 … the thing they are doing with s/something/another thing/ is a live correction for the minutes. 09:37:50 … minutes and IRC are important. 09:37:58 Hi, I'm Alejandro Llaves. I work as a postdoc at Universidad Politécnica de Madrid on spatio-temporal modelling of sensor data streams. I was previously located at University of Münster, and involved in FP7 projects working with the SSN ontology. I also have been involved in the OGC Geosemantics group and the Workflow group. There are two more colleagues joining from my group (Ontology Engineering Group): Raúl García, who was also involve[CUT] 09:38:01 kerry: Anyone else who hasn't spokeN/ 09:38:17 … Please recall that everything in the group is publshed to the Web and publicly available. 09:38:23 kerry: Good to know that AlejandroLlaves will be in Aus in the near future 09:38:30 … ANd resolutions etc in meetings are recorded by IRC. 09:38:36 scribe: phila 09:38:43 Topic: Process 09:38:47 s/ANd/and 09:39:12 s/ackchaals// 09:39:16 kerry: We're expecting to have the meetings weekly, running like we a re now - although we'll get better at it 09:39:22 s/quuue?// 09:39:27 ... we're expecting 2 f2f meetings per year 09:39:28 rrasgent, draft minutes 09:39:38 ... the first one is planned for 11 March in Barcelona 09:39:47 kerry: This is all on the wiki of course 09:39:58 rrsasgent, draft minutes 09:40:04 Oscar Corcho, who was involved in the SSN ontology and working on the Spanish initiative for Linked Data and using GeoSPARQL in the spin-off Localidata. 09:40:06 ... we'll be using these tools to record the meeting and allow remote participation 09:40:22 kerry: it's being held within the OGC's TC meeting 09:40:35 ... other people attending the OIGC meeting can come in but only WG members get to vote 09:40:50 kerry: Second f2f probably at TPAC in Japan, last week of October 09:41:02 s/OIGC/OGC TC 09:41:10 ... we don't want to spend to long introuducing the IRC bots today, but there's a lot of info oin the wiki 09:41:16 www.w3.org/2015/spatial 09:41:25 ... the wiki is a really important communication device for the WG 09:41:25 s/oin/on/ 09:42:11 kerry: The wiki will have things like agendas, text etc. It's a tool that, like the minutes, is publicly visible (but only writable by WG members and W3C staff) 09:42:24 q+ to ask whether we will also be using github 09:42:30 ... intention is to keep development as public as possible 09:42:34 q? 09:42:39 q? 09:42:43 ack jtandy 09:42:43 jtandy, you wanted to ask whether we will also be using github 09:42:44 ack jtandy 09:43:13 jtandy: As I've been contributing to the CSV on the Web WG, we've found our GitHub repository very useful 09:43:25 kerry: phila Advised us to use GitHub for the docs 09:43:58 https://github.com/w3c/sdw 09:44:04 q+ to ask if phil will add us automatically 09:44:19 ack jtandy 09:44:19 jtandy, you wanted to ask if phil will add us automatically 09:44:36 q- 09:44:58 (thanks) 09:45:25 kerry: Describes scribe duties 09:45:38 ... all members of the WG can expect to be a scribe in turn 09:45:46