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15:46:57 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DPUB_(ANNO)11:00AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
15:46:58 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Annotation Working Group Teleconference
15:46:58 <trackbot> Date: 21 January 2015
15:47:04 <fjh> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Jan/0037.html
15:47:12 <fjh> fjh has changed the topic to: annotation agenda https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Jan/0037.html
15:48:03 <fjh> Chair: Frederick_Hirsch, Rob_Sanderson
15:48:10 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch, Rob_Sanderson
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15:53:15 <azaroth> (brb)
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15:56:56 <Zakim> DPUB_(ANNO)11:00AM has now started
15:57:03 <Zakim> +Matt_Haas
15:57:25 <azaroth> Thanks Frederick!
15:57:26 <Zakim> +dauwhe
15:57:40 <dauwhe_> Present+ Dave_Cramer
15:58:03 <Matt_Haas> Present+ Matt_Haas
15:58:04 <Zakim> +Doug_Schepers
15:58:08 <azaroth> Present+ Rob_Sanderson
15:58:15 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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15:58:20 <Zakim> +azaroth
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15:58:40 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:58:42 <fjh> zakim, ipcaller is me
15:58:42 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
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15:59:15 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?
15:59:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Matt_Haas, dauwhe, Doug_Schepers, azaroth, fjh
15:59:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see TimCole, Kyrce, Matt_Haas, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, dauwhe, ivan, MarkS, dwhly_, tripu, shepazu, JakeHart, Mitar, bigbluehat, rhiaro, stain, renoirb,
15:59:17 <Zakim> ... zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, trackbot
15:59:28 <Zakim> + +1.845.665.aaaa
15:59:45 <fjh> all, please Present+ First_Last
15:59:48 <Kyrce> zakim, aaaa is me
15:59:49 <Zakim> +Kyrce; got it
16:00:05 <Kyrce> Present+ Kyrce_Swenson
16:00:08 <fjh> s/all, please Present.*//
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16:00:13 <Zakim> +TimCole
16:00:19 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
16:00:19 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
16:00:21 <Zakim> +Ivan
16:00:25 <fjh> Regrets+ Maxence_Guesdon
16:00:46 <ivan> Present+ Ivan_Herman
16:00:50 <fjh> Regrets+ Dan_Whaley
16:01:10 <fjh> Regrets+  Raphaël_Troncy
16:01:20 <shepazu> agenda+ deep linking
16:01:34 <azaroth> shepazu: http://www.w3.org/TR/dpub-annotation-uc/
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16:02:22 <Jacob> present+ Jacob_Jett
16:02:37 <Zakim> + +1.617.768.aabb
16:02:50 <Zakim> + +1.434.971.aacc
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16:03:00 <TimCole> Present+ Tim_Cole
16:03:04 <paoloC> Present+ Paolo_Ciccarese
16:03:08 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?
16:03:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see Matt_Haas, dauwhe, Doug_Schepers, azaroth, fjh, Kyrce, TimCole, Ivan, +1.617.768.aabb, +1.434.971.aacc
16:03:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see bjdmeest, paoloC, Jacob, davis_salisbury, TimCole, Kyrce, Matt_Haas, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, dauwhe, ivan, MarkS, dwhly_, tripu, shepazu, JakeHart, Mitar,
16:03:10 <Zakim> ... bigbluehat, rhiaro, stain, renoirb, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, trackbot
16:03:12 <Zakim> +[Ugent]
16:03:19 <bjdmeest> zakim, Ugent is me
16:03:21 <Zakim> +bjdmeest; got it
16:03:21 <shepazu> Zakim, aabb is paoloC
16:03:21 <Zakim> +paoloC; got it
16:03:25 <azaroth> Someone from 617 and 434 ?
16:03:31 <bjdmeest> Present+ Ben_De_Meester
16:03:37 <azaroth> 617 is Paolo?
16:03:49 <davis_salisbury> present+
16:04:13 <Zakim> +Bill_Kasdorf
16:04:19 <azaroth> zakim, aabb is davis_salisbury
16:04:19 <Zakim> sorry, azaroth, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
16:04:31 <azaroth> zakim, aacc is davis_salisbury
16:04:31 <Zakim> +davis_salisbury; got it
16:04:35 <shepazu> Zakim, aacc is davis_salisbury
16:04:35 <Zakim> sorry, shepazu, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
16:04:45 <fjh> zakim, pick a victim
16:04:45 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose davis_salisbury
16:04:48 <Jacob> I can scribe
16:04:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:04:57 <Jacob> certainly
16:05:05 <fjh> ScribeNick: Jacob
16:05:12 <azaroth> Scribe: Jacob Jett
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16:05:37 <fjh> Topic: Agenda Review, Scribe Selection, Announcements
16:06:05 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
16:06:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see Matt_Haas, dauwhe, Doug_Schepers, azaroth, fjh, Kyrce, TimCole, Ivan, paoloC, davis_salisbury, bjdmeest, Bill_Kasdorf, [IPcaller]
16:06:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see Bill_Kasdorf, bjdmeest, paoloC, Jacob, davis_salisbury, TimCole, Kyrce, Matt_Haas, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, dauwhe, ivan, MarkS, dwhly_, tripu, shepazu,
16:06:08 <Zakim> ... JakeHart, Mitar, bigbluehat, rhiaro, stain, renoirb, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, trackbot
16:06:22 <Jacob> \me ...agenda is minutes, use cases (Paolo), protocol, linking, data model
16:06:23 <azaroth> Regrets+ Benjamin_Young
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16:07:14 <fjh> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Jan/0040.html
16:07:23 <fjh> Topic: Minutes Approval
16:07:34 <fjh> RESOLUTION: 17th December 2014 minutes approved: http://www.w3.org/2014/12/03-annotation-minutes.html
16:07:45 <fjh> Topic:  Face to Face meeting
16:08:06 <azaroth> q+
16:09:02 <fjh> no extra annnouncements https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Jan/0035.html
16:09:18 <fjh> enabled annotations again https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Jan/0040.html
16:09:49 <fjh> - Face to face is Apr 22— we’re green to go.
16:09:49 <fjh> - W3C should handle all logistics and planning for that except for the reservation of the room and lunch, which will be provided.  I can discuss offline w/ the chairs/staff.
16:09:51 <fjh> - I Annotate is Apr 23-24 (hack days 25-26) please register if you intend to attend.  http://iannotate.org/2015
16:09:52 <fjh> - If you’d like to stay at the hotel we’ve blocked out, please let me know directly.
16:09:52 <fjh> - If you need travel support (i.e. cannot attend without it), ask now.
16:10:08 <Jacob> rob: face-to-face is april 22nd
16:10:33 <fjh> another announcement, looking for help with updating wikipedia article https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Jan/0036.html
16:10:37 <Jacob> ... tried to get boston but timing didn't work out, so it will be taking place in San Francisco
16:10:59 <Jacob> ... it will be followed by iAnnotate on the 23rd and 24th
16:11:05 <fjh> s/no extra annnouncements/announcement, please don’t put inappropriate conference notices on list/
16:11:14 <Jacob> ... with the 25th and 26th as hack days
16:11:21 <shepazu> q+
16:11:31 <Jacob> ... suggest making a wiki page for rsvps
16:11:36 <fjh> s/enabled annotations again/announcement - we can annotate the spec again, thanks to the team/
16:12:00 <fjh> q+
16:12:06 <Jacob> ... please rsvp, there may be some funding to support travel to the face-to-face
16:12:12 <fjh> q-
16:12:24 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
16:12:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/21-annotation-minutes.html fjh
16:12:48 <fjh> s/(brb)//
16:12:53 <Jacob> ... ldp(?) group, thinking about a workshop, looking for a time and space
16:13:05 <Jacob> ... suggested that it could occur at iAnnotate
16:13:12 <ivan> s/(?)//
16:13:25 <fjh> q+
16:13:40 <Jacob> ... would fall on the 21st, the tuesday before the face-to-face
16:13:54 <azaroth> ack fjh
16:13:55 <azaroth> q?
16:13:58 <azaroth> ack azaroth
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16:14:03 <Jacob> fjh: need to be clear w/regards to the confirmation date
16:14:04 <fjh> ack shepazu
16:14:05 <azaroth> ack shepazu
16:14:42 <fjh> +1 to wbs poll
16:14:47 <Zakim> +??P33
16:14:48 <Jacob> doug: administrivia - normally use the wps -- w3 polling system to manage the rsvp and attendance notes
16:15:16 <Jacob> ... could set one up, would help highlight who will be in attendance
16:15:20 <csillag> zakim: +??P33 is me
16:15:24 <azaroth> +1 to poll w/ extra questions
16:15:31 <Jacob> fjh: could also use this to indicate attendance of the workshop and iannotate
16:16:05 <fjh> Topic: Use Cases
16:16:06 <Jacob> ... moving to use cases
16:16:22 <fjh> Link: https://www.w3.org/annotation/wiki/Use_Cases
16:16:44 <Jacob> Paolo: only one set of use cases that is not yet added to the wiki
16:16:46 <fjh> q+
16:17:17 <Jacob> ... need further clarification, Jacob should rewrite to conform to existing cases in the wiki
16:17:55 <azaroth> +1 to collecting everything and sorting/clarifying it at the end
16:18:26 <azaroth> ScribeNick: azaroth
16:18:38 <azaroth> Jacob:  I should log into the wiki and add them there?
16:18:56 <azaroth> paoloC: That would be great, the language is a bit specific to the field, so I didn't follow exactly the use cases
16:18:56 <tbdinesh> Present +TB_Dinesh
16:19:02 <azaroth> Jacob: I can do that this afternoon
16:19:22 <azaroth> paoloC: If you want to send me a note that you've added them, I'll check them out right away
16:19:25 <ivan> zakim, P33 is csillag
16:19:25 <Zakim> sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named 'P33'
16:19:34 <Jacob> ... agreement with regards overall, seems to be is to collect every possible use case and sort them later
16:19:45 <azaroth> ... unless I've missed some that's all.  I have some ready to add from my work, including structured annotation
16:19:54 <azaroth> ... which we haven't explored that much
16:19:54 <ivan> zakim, ?P33 is csillag
16:19:54 <Zakim> sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named '?P33'
16:20:17 <azaroth> ScribeNick: Jacob
16:20:30 <azaroth> q+
16:20:33 <Jacob> ... some implementations being done on top of a triple store
16:20:58 <Jacob> ... recalls ivan saying that such implementations are not standard
16:21:20 <ivan> s/that such/that JSON LD Framing/
16:21:34 <fjh> issue noted by Paolo - client should not need to understand graph, hence framing needed
16:21:36 <Jacob> ... is this a protocol use case?
16:21:48 <Jacob> Rob: not protocol
16:22:06 <fjh> q?
16:22:07 <Jacob> ... wouldn't have a remote client with a particular frame
16:23:03 <Jacob> ... not up on all the details yet as not standardized yet
16:23:30 <Jacob> Paolo: have three use cases, bakcend -- does not matter if framed as it will interpret as rdf anyway
16:24:03 <Jacob> ... but in the case of actual clients it matters, and so it (e.g., annotopea) prefers framing in order to interpret the message without rebuilding the graph
16:24:06 <fjh> do we need to add this as an issue or use case requirement on clients?
16:24:19 <azaroth> ack fjh
16:24:26 <Jacob> ... no idea how to make this work without framing
16:24:35 <Jacob> fjh: should this be a use case requirement?
16:24:47 <ivan> q+
16:24:55 <Jacob> ... seems similar to html issues, how do we capture this issue?
16:25:03 <tbdinesh> Present+ TB_Dinesh
16:25:06 <fjh> zakim, who is making noise?
16:25:19 <Zakim> fjh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Bill_Kasdorf (15%), Ivan (4%)
16:25:37 <Jacob> Rob: ... clarify the relationship with rdf, not a problem in general terms but don't want to give impression that it is required(?)
16:25:57 <Jacob> ... talk about graphs were appropriate and don't when not
16:26:32 <shepazu> q+
16:26:41 <Jacob> Paolo: problem will also come up for structured bodies
16:26:42 <ivan> ack azaroth
16:27:13 <fjh> q+
16:27:28 <Jacob> ... because the return a graph, an rdf concept, in this case, framing may also come into play unless clients are making multiple calls to retrueve both annotation and graph
16:27:43 <fjh> ack Ivan
16:28:05 <shepazu> s/annotopea/Annotopia/
16:28:13 <fjh> can someone please put a link in the chat about framing
16:28:21 <TimCole> http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/json-ld-framing/
16:28:43 <Jacob> Ivan: only 3 or 4 folks in the group are working with json ld framing; what is framing going to do for the developer and not worry about details of triple stores
16:29:00 <Jacob> fjh: should record the issue at high-level terms
16:29:10 <Jacob> ivan: exactly
16:29:11 <fjh> and use case / client needs, requirements
16:29:48 <Jacob> paolo: so should have a templating mechanism?
16:29:50 <fjh> +1
16:29:56 <azaroth> +1
16:30:22 <fjh> you can give pointers in addition to high  level description
16:30:28 <fjh> ack shepazu
16:31:28 <azaroth> +1 to shepazu re implementation agnosticism
16:31:32 <Jacob> doug: should outline the specific outcomes and needs, shouldn't avoid building solutions that deal directly with rdf but also shouldn't focus solely on such solutions
16:31:53 <Jacob> ... no reason to avoid rdf but not use it as the only way to discuss issues
16:32:00 <azaroth> ack fjh
16:32:24 <Jacob> fjh: should document the issue
16:32:41 <azaroth> q+
16:33:13 <fjh> Dan’s email re disscussion is well worth reviewing in my opinion https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2015Jan/0013.html
16:33:40 <Jacob> ... different topic; seems like the use case discussions are beginning to get philosophical
16:33:46 <paoloC> q+
16:33:54 <Jacob> ... cannot anticipate how the standard will be used in every case
16:34:14 <Jacob> ... getting confused why we are going into so much detail
16:34:30 <fjh> ack azaroth
16:35:31 <Jacob> rob: regarding the philosophical discussion, my understanding, whether or not some use cases count as annotations
16:35:58 <Jacob> ... very much in favor at this stage to collect everything and sort them once we have the full set of use cases and requirements
16:36:12 <fjh> ack paoloC
16:36:43 <Jacob> paolo: also read some discussions on bibframe; annotation is different things for different people
16:36:58 <Jacob> ... comes down to how the implementations are being build
16:37:12 <Jacob> ... also fluid, sometimes moves from being an annotation to content
16:37:31 <azaroth> +1
16:37:38 <fjh> +1
16:37:44 <Jacob> ... understand that we would like a precise definition but it is better for now to move forward with the existing def
16:38:01 <fjh> Topic: Deep Linking
16:38:04 <Jacob> fjh: moving to deep linking
16:38:22 <Jacob> doug: deep linking - being talked about in mobile circles
16:38:30 <Jacob> ... somewhat related to annotation
16:38:55 <fjh> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking.html
16:39:00 <Jacob> ... lawsuits regarding if links to particular pages and states in sites and apps is legal
16:39:48 <Jacob> ... used to mean linking into specific content but now means to evoke particular states in an app
16:40:01 <fjh> doug: deep linking now means app can access data in another app on that device
16:40:21 <Jacob> ... can click a link for a mapping app to go to particular state in that mapping app
16:40:23 <fjh> s/doug.*//
16:40:41 <azaroth> q+
16:40:45 <fjh> forget the tag link, this is different meaning of deep linking
16:40:47 <fjh> q+
16:41:00 <fjh> is there a link with a description of this
16:41:07 <Jacob> ... will send a message to mailing list about this topic
16:41:21 <Jacob> ... certain degree of interest with regards to our robust anchoring
16:41:36 <Jacob> ... possible workshop around deep linking
16:41:40 <fjh> q-
16:41:50 <Jacob> ... talked to urx and quick(something)
16:41:54 <fjh> q+ to ask if this is native app specific or web browser applicable
16:42:43 <Jacob> ... w3c is interested because of the idea of having closer ties to mobile / web apps
16:42:51 <ivan> q+
16:43:06 <Jacob> ... will keep the group apprised of what is going on
16:43:13 <fjh> ack azaroth
16:44:07 <Jacob> rob: clarification - deep linking focused on what is displayed rather than the target of an annotation?
16:44:46 <fjh> ack fjh
16:44:46 <Zakim> fjh, you wanted to ask if this is native app specific or web browser applicable
16:44:52 <Jacob> doug: both groups need the ability to address content in similar ways
16:45:06 <Jacob> ... it's an addressing issue
16:45:09 <azaroth> azaroth: Need to address content in applications, rather than the state of a running application (mobile or not)?
16:45:19 <Jacob> fjh: why is this a concern?
16:46:12 <ivan> q-
16:46:29 <Jacob> doug: cannot send someone to a particular part of a document because discreet linking is lacking when there are no ids
16:46:58 <Jacob> ... while the web is good at linking, apps do not and that is the problem being explored
16:47:47 <azaroth> q+
16:48:35 <Jacob> ... example: someone texts a link to some content in a document, question is what should that link do; ideally it opens the exact page that person 1 is referencing
16:48:47 <ivan> +1
16:48:49 <Jacob> ... how do you reference something local to someone else's device?
16:48:58 <fjh> q?
16:49:02 <fjh> ack azaroth
16:49:32 <ivan> The EPUB-WEB white paper might show where the issues may be for DPUB that Doug was referring to: http://w3c.github.io/epubweb/
16:49:32 <Jacob> rob: this would be good to have a write-up of; certainly good to be aware of
16:49:35 <fjh> doug, thanks for sharing this - a mail to the list would be very helpful
16:50:00 <ivan> q+
16:50:38 <Jacob> ... we should work with them if we can but we should beware of scope creep
16:50:52 <Jacob> doug: no one at w3 currently working on this
16:51:02 <Jacob> ... possibility of a workshop
16:51:25 <fjh> ack Ivan
16:51:30 <Jacob> ... don't want two different solutions
16:51:36 <Jacob> ... for linking into content
16:52:02 <fjh> ivan, thanks for link
16:52:06 <Jacob> ivan: epub also looking at this issue
16:52:38 <Jacob> ... moving towards an environment where content is sometimes offline and sometimes online
16:52:50 <Jacob> ... want the annotation to persist regardless of connectivity
16:52:53 <fjh> desire - seamless use of annotations when moving online and offline
16:53:23 <fjh> Topic: Protocols
16:53:45 <fjh> Link: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-annotation/2014Dec/0062.html
16:53:55 <Jacob> rob: using ldp to (something) transactions
16:54:01 <shepazu> (note that the TAG document on deeplinking http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/deeplinking.html is not the same thing as deeplinking as discussed today)
16:54:45 <Jacob> ... using ldp for basic GET retrieval and (something) for the notifications
16:55:12 <Jacob> ... would anyone be interested in writing up a straw man set of requirements
16:55:31 <TimCole> +1 to hearing more about this next week.
16:55:42 <fjh> rob will create draft, seeking help
16:55:48 <ivan> s/(something)/Activity Streams/
16:55:50 <Jacob> ... happy to talk about this more next week
16:55:52 <fjh> I am interseted in helping on this
16:56:03 <fjh> s/interseted/interested
16:56:14 <fjh> rob: can discuss next week
16:56:17 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
16:56:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see Matt_Haas, dauwhe, Doug_Schepers, azaroth, fjh, Kyrce, TimCole, Ivan, paoloC, davis_salisbury, bjdmeest, Bill_Kasdorf, [IPcaller], ??P33
16:56:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see csillag, tbdinesh, Bill_Kasdorf, bjdmeest, paoloC, Jacob, davis_salisbury, TimCole, Kyrce, Matt_Haas, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, dauwhe, ivan, MarkS, dwhly_,
16:56:20 <Zakim> ... shepazu, JakeHart, Mitar, bigbluehat, rhiaro, stain, renoirb, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, trackbot
16:56:45 <Jacob> ... any other concrete examples that we should be looking at? would like to discuss further next week
16:56:58 <Jacob> fjh: plan on these as agenda items for next week
16:57:23 <shepazu> WBS poll: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/73180/annotation-q1_2015/
16:57:33 <Jacob> ... fjh not on next week's call, rob will be chairing with ivan's assistance
16:57:36 <shepazu> q+
16:57:43 <tbdinesh> ??P33 is likely me
16:57:57 <fjh> in two weeks Ivan will chair
16:58:03 <Jacob> note: ivan chairing the week after not assisting next week
16:58:05 <shepazu> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/73180/annotation-q1_2015/
16:58:35 <azaroth> Thanks Doug!
16:58:39 <Zakim> -dauwhe
16:59:31 <fjh> Topic: Other Business
16:59:47 <Jacob> doug: face-to-face poll is up, will add ldp write-up to it as soon as available
17:00:15 <Zakim> -Doug_Schepers
17:00:16 <Jacob> fjh: adjourning
17:00:18 <Zakim> -azaroth
17:00:18 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:00:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/21-annotation-minutes.html ivan
17:00:19 <Zakim> -davis_salisbury
17:00:20 <Zakim> -Kyrce
17:00:21 <Zakim> -TimCole
17:00:22 <Zakim> -paoloC
17:00:22 <Zakim> -Ivan
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17:00:26 <Zakim> -Matt_Haas
17:00:29 <fjh> Topic: Adjourn
17:00:32 <Zakim> -bjdmeest
17:00:35 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
17:00:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/21-annotation-minutes.html fjh
17:00:37 <Zakim> -??P33
17:00:39 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
17:00:41 <fjh> zakim, who is here?
17:00:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see fjh, Bill_Kasdorf
17:00:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see csillag, tbdinesh, Bill_Kasdorf, paoloC, Jacob, davis_salisbury, Matt_Haas, azaroth, Zakim, RRSAgent, fjh, dauwhe, ivan, MarkS, dwhly_, shepazu, JakeHart, Mitar,
17:00:44 <Zakim> ... bigbluehat, rhiaro, stain, renoirb, zz_nickstenn, oshepherd, trackbot
17:00:50 <Zakim> -fjh
17:00:54 <Zakim> -Bill_Kasdorf
17:00:55 <Zakim> DPUB_(ANNO)11:00AM has ended
17:00:55 <Zakim> Attendees were Matt_Haas, dauwhe, Doug_Schepers, azaroth, fjh, +1.845.665.aaaa, Kyrce, TimCole, Ivan, +1.617.768.aabb, +1.434.971.aacc, bjdmeest, paoloC, Bill_Kasdorf,
17:00:55 <Zakim> ... davis_salisbury, [IPcaller]
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17:09:32 <tbdinesh> q: I call using skype out. How do I tell zakim who i am
17:12:12 <renoirb> tbdinesh you have to look at the IRC channel at the moment you join the conversation. You should see ??Px
17:12:40 <renoirb> so you can tell to Z akim like this (write his nickname in full though).
17:12:44 <renoirb> Like so
17:12:50 <tbdinesh> no
17:12:57 <renoirb> Z akim, ??Px is Foo
17:13:17 <tbdinesh> ok
17:13:26 <renoirb> that´s the best way to do.
17:13:30 <renoirb> Everybody does this
17:13:43 <tbdinesh> so i ask. zakim, who is here?
17:14:00 <tbdinesh> zakim, who is here?
17:14:01 <Zakim> apparently DPUB_(ANNO)11:00AM has ended, tbdinesh
17:14:01 <Zakim> On IRC I see tantek, csillag, tbdinesh, paoloC, davis_salisbury, Zakim, RRSAgent, dauwhe, MarkS, dwhly_, shepazu, JakeHart, Mitar, bigbluehat, rhiaro, stain, renoirb, zz_nickstenn,
17:14:03 <Zakim> ... oshepherd, trackbot
17:14:10 <renoirb> that’s it
17:14:11 <renoirb> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html
17:14:35 <renoirb> about this section http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html#attendance
17:15:46 <tbdinesh> tnx. will read
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