IRC log of mobile-a11y on 2015-01-15

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14:57:28 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be WAI_MATF
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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:57:31 [trackbot]
Date: 15 January 2015
15:15:05 [Kathy]
trackbot, start meeting
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RRSAgent, make logs public
15:15:09 [trackbot]
Zakim, this will be WAI_MATF
15:15:09 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot; I see WAI_MATF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 45 minutes
15:15:10 [trackbot]
Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:15:10 [trackbot]
Date: 15 January 2015
15:15:23 [Kathy]
zakim, this will be 6283
15:15:23 [Zakim]
ok, Kathy; I see WAI_MATF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 45 minutes
15:15:40 [Kathy]
rrsagent, make log world
15:15:47 [Kathy]
meeting: Mobile A11Y TF
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chair: Kathy & Kim
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trackbot, start meeting
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RRSAgent, make logs public
15:39:57 [trackbot]
Zakim, this will be WAI_MATF
15:39:57 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot; I see WAI_MATF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 21 minutes
15:39:58 [trackbot]
Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:39:58 [trackbot]
Date: 15 January 2015
15:40:11 [Kim]
chair: Kathleen_Wahlbin
15:40:28 [Kim]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2015Jan/0008.html
15:43:22 [Kim]
Agenda+ Note Review - please fill out the survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20150112_survey/
15:43:24 [Kim]
Agenda+ CSUN Face to Face meeting
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Agenda+ Appendix A mockup
15:43:27 [Kim]
Agenda+ Next Steps - next meeting will be Thursday Jan 22
15:50:55 [Zakim]
WAI_MATF()11:00AM has now started
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+Kim_Patch
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+Alan_Smith
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+Kathy_Wahlbin
16:01:38 [Jan]
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+??P25
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+Marc_Johlic
16:01:48 [Jan]
zakim, code?
16:01:48 [Zakim]
the conference code is 6283 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Jan
16:02:32 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
16:02:50 [Jan]
zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
16:02:50 [Zakim]
+Jan; got it
16:03:05 [MichaelC]
ack me
16:05:38 [Zakim]
-Jan
16:05:45 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
16:05:48 [Jan]
zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
16:05:49 [Zakim]
+Jan; got it
16:08:42 [Kim]
Kathy: I like to keep the survey open for another week and have everyone go through the different sections if you can during the rest of the time of this meeting. a couple of things to talk about first
16:09:26 [Kim]
Kathy: there are number of sections of the note that just have bullet points that need to be converted to pross. If you have time this week it would be great if we can get some of those done.
16:09:40 [Kim]
Kathy: appendix, need to do some testing this week to see what the support level is on mobile
16:10:14 [Kim]
Kathy: H45, longdesk – has anyone done any specific testing to know whether it is supported on mobile
16:10:38 [Kim]
Kathy:does someone want to take an action to test to see
16:10:52 [Kim]
Kathy: within the next couple of weeks
16:11:11 [Kim]
Mark: will test longdesk
16:11:36 [Kim]
Kathy: also need image maps, body of the object, and applets
16:12:38 [Kim]
Mark: can try on iOS
16:12:58 [Kim]
Jan will do longdesk, not Mark
16:14:13 [Kim]
Kathy: does anyone know is smile support – renders these together
16:14:27 [Kim]
Kathy: I'll take that as an action, to see how this is supported on mobile
16:14:43 [Kim]
Kathy: has anyone played around with meta refresh?
16:14:50 [Kim]
Kathy: I'll take that one too
16:14:57 [Jan]
http://caniuse.com/#search=SMIL
16:15:12 [Kim]
Kathy: H 83, has to do with target attribute opening up a new window – has anyone tested that
16:15:19 [Kim]
Kathy: I'll take that one on
16:15:57 [Kim]
Kathy: H 85
16:16:06 [Kim]
Mark: I can try for iOS
16:16:36 [MichaelC]
ack me
16:17:05 [Kim]
Kathy: Michael the other thing I took a look at that we should alert Josh and Andrew about is G 144
16:17:14 [Tim]
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16:17:34 [Kim]
Michael: on first blush we should keep this is a general technique so we should market as an exception. Are you sure there would never be Capchas
16:17:44 [Kim]
Kathy: the name of it specifically calls out a webpage
16:18:06 [Kim]
Kathyathy: I haven't seen Capchas in applications, might be possible
16:18:32 [Kim]
Michael: if you are on a device are you already authenticated
16:19:14 [Kim]
Michael: If captchas were to be used this wouldn't be relevant so retitling it is an easy fix. If they weren't used this would be applicable and they wouldn't hurt anything.
16:19:43 [Kim]
Kathy: I expect I'll have more questions for the group on specific things as we go. I'll have a better update on that next week
16:21:25 [Zakim]
-Alan_Smith
16:21:57 [Kim]
Kathy: for the mobile node things are looking pretty good. I made a couple of changes based on the feedback we got from Jan and Alan, including style. Take the rest of the meeting to read through the note. If you don't have access to the survey, sections we are working on are Intro, B1-5, C1, 2, 3, 5. Read through those sections. Go ahead and make grammatical fixes if you catch anything..
16:23:49 [Kim]
Kathy: we're still working out the details of the CSUN face-to-face but we are meeting on Tuesday, March 3. We are working out the details of timing and rooms. We're also setting up so people can also attend remotely. Focus of that will be on the next steps – we should have published the noted that time, so we will focus on gaps in the WCAG guidelines and where we should do techniques and...
16:23:51 [Kim]
...were we should not do techniques and the WCAG Working group will be joining us on that.
16:24:15 [Kim]
Kathy: will take the rest of the time if you can fill out the survey, or if you can fill out one of the sections in the notes that is bulleted, that would be appreciated. Please do take this time to work on the document or survey.
16:24:39 [Kim]
Mark: anywhere there are bullet points you are looking to expand on those?
16:25:30 [MichaelC]
ack me
16:25:42 [Kim]
Kathy: some of the sections have bullet points for best practices, but some of the sections have bullet points because they are not done. The sections I listed the survey are the ones that are completed, the others are not done yet. We put in bullet points to indicate what should be included. They might not be complete and the bullet points were just a placeholder for what we had previously...
16:25:43 [Kim]
...talked about.
16:26:04 [Zakim]
-Michael_Cooper
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-Kathy_Wahlbin
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-Kim_Patch
16:26:10 [Tim]
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-Jan
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WAI_MATF()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Kim_Patch, Alan_Smith, Kathy_Wahlbin, Michael_Cooper, Marc_Johlic, Jan
16:26:52 [Kim]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/15-mobile-a11y-minutes.html Kim
16:30:39 [Kim]
rrsagent, bye
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I see no action items