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17:58:52 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
17:58:52 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WAI_PFWG()1:00PM already started
17:58:53 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
17:58:53 <trackbot> Date: 08 January 2015
17:59:01 <janina> zakim, who's here?
17:59:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P8, fesch
17:59:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, shepazu, MichaelC, MarkS, janina, ed, joanie, trackbot
17:59:09 <janina> zakim, ??P8 is me
17:59:09 <Zakim> +janina; got it
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18:03:03 <Zakim> +Joanmarie_Diggs
18:03:07 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
18:03:18 <richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich
18:03:27 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
18:03:27 <richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus
18:03:38 <clown> Zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:03:38 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
18:03:38 <richardschwerdtfeger> RRSAgent, make log public
18:03:46 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:03:46 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:04:52 <Zakim> +??P14
18:06:01 <MichaelC> zakim, who is on the phone?
18:06:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see janina, fesch, Joanmarie_Diggs, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Michael_Cooper
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18:08:45 <MichaelC> zakim, IPcaller is Léonie_Watson
18:08:45 <Zakim> +Léonie_Watson; got it
18:08:47 <LJWatson> zakim, who is on the phone?
18:08:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see janina, fesch, Joanmarie_Diggs, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Michael_Cooper, Léonie_Watson, Cynthia_Shelly
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18:09:18 <fesch> scribe:fesch
18:10:24 <fesch> rich: can we start 1/2 hour earlier?
18:10:43 <fesch> RESOLUTION: start 1/2 hour earlier. Starts next week.
18:10:51 <Zakim> + +1.650.738.aaaa
18:11:13 <richardschwerdtfeger> zakim, 738 is Bryan
18:11:13 <Zakim> sorry, richardschwerdtfeger, I do not recognize a party named '738'
18:11:25 <richardschwerdtfeger> zakim, aaaa is Bryan
18:11:25 <Zakim> +Bryan; got it
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18:11:50 <fesch> ACTION:1440:
18:11:50 <clown> action-1440?
18:11:50 <trackbot> action-1440 -- Joanmarie Diggs to landmarks section uses "region of page" in prose even though "region" is not a landmark -- due 2014-10-06 -- OPEN
18:11:50 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1440
18:12:01 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen
18:12:36 <fesch> action-1548?
18:12:36 <trackbot> action-1548 -- Léonie Watson to Write revised proposal for aria-current based on today’s meeting for issue 587 -- due 2015-01-08 -- OPEN
18:12:36 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1548
18:12:37 <clown> action-1548?
18:12:37 <trackbot> action-1548 -- Léonie Watson to Write revised proposal for aria-current based on today’s meeting for issue 587 -- due 2015-01-08 -- OPEN
18:12:37 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1548
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18:13:22 <bgaraventa1979> zakim, aaaa is Bryan_Garaventa
18:13:22 <Zakim> sorry, bgaraventa1979, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
18:13:33 <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1440
18:13:43 <bgaraventa1979> zakim, I am Bryan_Garaventa
18:13:43 <Zakim> sorry, bgaraventa1979, I do not see a party named 'Bryan_Garaventa'
18:13:49 <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/358
18:13:49 <clown> action-358?
18:13:49 <trackbot> action-358 -- Michael Cooper to - investigate modification of schema to address default values for particular roles -- due 2014-11-10 -- OPEN
18:13:49 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/358
18:15:11 <Zakim> +Matt_King
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18:16:02 <fesch> action-601?
18:16:02 <trackbot> action-601 -- Shane McCarron to Make property default value overrides machine readable -- due 2014-11-10 -- OPEN
18:16:02 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/601
18:17:46 <clown> action-1442?
18:17:46 <trackbot> action-1442 -- Léonie Watson to Create spec. text for aria-currentfor="IDREF" and aria-current="true/false", related to issue-587 -- due 2014-10-13 -- CLOSED
18:17:46 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1442
18:18:05 <clown> action-1151?
18:18:06 <trackbot> action-1151 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Create a flowchart or process diagram of the ARIA accessible name computation -- due 2014-10-30 -- OPEN
18:18:06 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1151
18:19:38 <clown> action-1293?
18:19:38 <trackbot> action-1293 -- James Craig to Add aria-colindex to role gridcell and aria-rowindex to role row -- due 2014-11-11 -- OPEN
18:19:38 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1293
18:20:01 <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1293
18:22:26 <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1309
18:23:30 <clown> issue-398?
18:23:30 <trackbot> issue-398 -- Errata: aria-setsize and aria-posinset should apply to more than just listitem and option -- closed
18:23:30 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/398
18:25:32 <fesch> action-1342?
18:25:32 <trackbot> action-1342 -- James Craig to Patch issue-523: searchbox/searchfield role which is a subrole of textbox/textfield -- due 2014-09-22 -- OPEN
18:25:32 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1342
18:25:32 <clown> action-1342?
18:25:33 <trackbot> action-1342 -- James Craig to Patch issue-523: searchbox/searchfield role which is a subrole of textbox/textfield -- due 2014-09-22 -- OPEN
18:25:33 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1342
18:27:12 <clown> issue-523?
18:27:12 <trackbot> issue-523 -- searchbox/searchfield role which is a subrole of textbox/textfield -- open
18:27:12 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/523
18:28:19 <fesch> mk: concerned about name of searchbox/searchfield
18:28:38 <fesch> JD: why not go with seachbox since we have textbox - be consistent
18:29:18 <clown> action-1346?
18:29:18 <trackbot> action-1346 -- James Craig to Propose edit to dialog role to clarify issue that leads to bad implementation -- due 2014-12-08 -- OPEN
18:29:18 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1346
18:31:17 <clown> action-1349?
18:31:17 <trackbot> action-1349 -- James Craig to Patch issue-561: we need @aria-placeholder as backup for @placeholder in custom fields. -- due 2014-09-22 -- OPEN
18:31:17 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1349
18:31:22 <clown> issue-561?
18:31:22 <trackbot> issue-561 -- We need @aria-placeholder as backup for @placeholder in custom fields. -- open
18:31:22 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/561
18:32:40 <clown> action-1426?
18:32:40 <trackbot> action-1426 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Patch issue-561: @aria-placeholder -- due 2014-04-21 -- CLOSED
18:32:40 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1426
18:33:56 <fesch> issue-1355?
18:33:56 <trackbot> Sorry, but issue-1355 does not exist.
18:34:02 <fesch> action-1355?
18:34:02 <trackbot> action-1355 -- James Craig to Propose specific edit for issue-588: clarify rowheader and columnheader selection -- due 2014-09-22 -- PENDINGREVIEW
18:34:02 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1355
18:35:13 <clown> "Applying the aria-selected state on a rowheader or columnheader MUST not cause the user agent to automatically propogate the aria-selected state to all the cells in the corresponding row or column. An author MAY choose to propogate selection in this manner depending on the specific application."
18:36:57 <fesch> issue-640?
18:36:57 <trackbot> issue-640 -- Investigate aria-hasmanagedfocus to indicate whether a region manages focus to enable complex widgets -- open
18:36:57 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/640
18:39:03 <fesch> action-1363?
18:39:03 <trackbot> action-1363 -- James Craig to Patch issue-603: aria-startsmedia -- due 2014-02-01 -- OPEN
18:39:03 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1363
18:43:05 <clown> https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UIKit/Reference/UIAccessibility_Protocol/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/c_ref/UIAccessibilityTraitPlaysSound
18:46:31 <clown> From the issue:  "We need a way to indicate that element activation (e.g. pressing a button) initiates or triggers some media like audio or video. This will allow screen readers, for example, to know to suppress speech confirmation of a press, so that they don't speak over the beginning of a video, music file, captcha, timer, or other media resource."
18:50:52 <Zakim> -Léonie_Watson
18:50:53 <clown> action-1361?
18:50:53 <trackbot> action-1361 -- James Nurthen to Suggest new text for the application role -- due 2014-12-08 -- OPEN
18:50:53 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1361
18:50:57 <fesch> action-1361?
18:50:57 <trackbot> action-1361 -- James Nurthen to Suggest new text for the application role -- due 2014-12-08 -- OPEN
18:50:57 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1361
18:53:27 <fesch> action-1380?
18:53:27 <trackbot> action-1380 -- James Craig to #presentation should mention aria-hidden vs presentation role on raster and vector images in relation to ACTION-1379 -- due 2014-02-12 -- OPEN
18:53:27 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1380
18:58:13 <fesch> action-1383
18:58:13 <trackbot> action-1383 -- James Craig to Add role none to spec and write text in role="presentation" to state how will be phasing out. -- due 2014-02-17 -- OPEN
18:58:13 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1383
19:00:14 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
19:00:20 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-1.1/#none
19:00:28 <cyns> have a conflict and need to drop off
19:01:26 <clown> fwiw, the editors' draft is:  http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#none
19:15:28 <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1390
19:15:33 <fesch> action-1390?
19:15:33 <trackbot> action-1390 -- James Craig to Add aria-hint to aria 1.1 as related to ISSUE-406 -- due 2014-03-03 -- OPEN
19:15:33 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1390
19:15:46 <clown> issue-406?
19:15:46 <trackbot> issue-406 -- Proposal for new aria-hint property. (Previously proposed as @aria-help) -- open
19:15:46 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/406
19:16:22 <MichaelC> ack me
19:18:27 <clown> issue-446?
19:18:27 <trackbot> issue-446 -- proposing new switch role (subclass of checkbox) that represents an on/off state -- open
19:18:27 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/446
19:20:44 <fesch> nummer bitte
19:21:09 <fesch> action-1395
19:21:09 <trackbot> action-1395 -- James Craig to Add table role to taxonomy and aria 1.1 spec. -- due 2014-03-10 -- OPEN
19:21:09 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1395
19:24:20 <clown> action-1405?
19:24:20 <trackbot> action-1405 -- James Craig to For issue-526 modify spec. to allow non-global attrs to apply to host language elements having the correct aria semantics -- due 2014-03-31 -- OPEN
19:24:20 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1405
19:24:21 <fesch> action-1405
19:24:21 <trackbot> action-1405 -- James Craig to For issue-526 modify spec. to allow non-global attrs to apply to host language elements having the correct aria semantics -- due 2014-03-31 -- OPEN
19:24:21 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1405
19:24:29 <clown> issue-526?
19:24:29 <trackbot> issue-526 -- Allow non-global states and properties to be used without an explicit ARIA role, when the element has an implict ARIA semantic corresponding to an appropriate role - ARIA 1.1 -- open
19:24:29 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/526
19:26:13 <fesch> action-1421
19:26:13 <trackbot> action-1421 -- James Craig to Remove TAC section, reference Name Comp spec instead. -- due 2014-04-14 -- OPEN
19:26:13 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1421
19:26:14 <clown> action-1421?
19:26:14 <trackbot> action-1421 -- James Craig to Remove TAC section, reference Name Comp spec instead. -- due 2014-04-14 -- OPEN
19:26:14 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1421
19:26:36 <clown> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#namecalculation
19:27:12 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
19:27:51 <fesch> ACTION: 1421 completed
19:27:51 <trackbot> Error finding '1421'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
19:28:46 <fesch> close action-1421
19:28:46 <trackbot> Closed action-1421.
19:29:04 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
19:29:06 <richardschwerdtfeger> zakim, bye
19:29:06 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were fesch, janina, Joanmarie_Diggs, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Michael_Cooper, Cynthia_Shelly, Léonie_Watson,
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19:29:14 <richardschwerdtfeger> RRSAgent, make minutes
19:29:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/01/08-aria-minutes.html richardschwerdtfeger
19:29:48 <richardschwerdtfeger> RRSAgent, make log public
19:31:35 <janina> janina has changed the topic to: ARIA Teleconference; Thursday 15 January at 17:30Z; Zakim 2742#
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