16:05:08 RRSAgent has joined #coga 16:05:08 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/12/01-coga-irc 16:08:57 zakim, this will be WAI_CogTF 16:08:57 ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 52 minutes 16:09:34 agenda: this 16:09:35 agenda+ review of agenda, new items 16:09:37 agenda+ steps for editors draft, including checking cog table and adding ADD changes 16:09:38 agenda+ next items technques 16:09:40 agenda+ issue papers 16:09:41 agenda+ Next FTF 16:09:43 agenda+ be done 16:31:10 slee has joined #coga 16:38:10 Regrets Rich Schwerdtfeger, Mary Jo Mueller, debra Rue 16:38:19 Regrets: Rich Schwerdtfeger, Mary Jo Mueller, debra Rue 16:52:07 WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started 16:52:15 +[IPcaller] 16:56:48 zakim, who's here? 16:56:48 On the phone I see [IPcaller] 16:56:50 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, MichaelC, janina, trackbot 16:58:45 neilmilliken has joined #coga 16:59:36 +Kinshuk 16:59:47 zakim, [IPcaller] is me 16:59:47 +Lisa_Seeman; got it 17:00:05 +neilmilliken 17:00:08 EA has joined #coga 17:01:03 + +1.512.445.aaaa 17:01:52 Tony_Doran has joined #coga 17:02:01 lisaseeman 17:02:19 + +44.289.442.aabb 17:02:28 Zakim, aabb is me 17:02:28 +Tony_Doran; got it 17:02:59 Susann_Keohane has joined #coga 17:03:13 zakim, who's here? 17:03:13 On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, Kinshuk, neilmilliken, +1.512.445.aaaa, Tony_Doran 17:03:16 On IRC I see Susann_Keohane, Tony_Doran, EA, neilmilliken, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, MichaelC, janina, trackbot 17:03:37 zakim, +1.512 is Susann_Keohane 17:03:38 +Susann_Keohane; got it 17:04:07 ddahl has joined #coga 17:04:42 scribe: EA 17:05:14 zakim, next item 17:05:14 agendum 1. "review of agenda, new items" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman] 17:06:14 Lisa intends to look at the Actions, Techniques and issues but will switch around items so starting with Actions 17:06:17 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open 17:06:17 +Debbie_Dahl 17:06:59 Security action done 17:07:37 Chaohai_Ding has joined #coga 17:07:38 Tony working on Dyslexia techniques - no progress at present but will be returning to this work now 17:12:39 +??P1 17:14:38 Tony asked for references for his work on digital accessibility for dyslexia and has tried to contact the British Dyslexia Association 17:15:33 EA commented that she had some research on the subject and would send this to the task force. Contact will need to be made with Dolphin who may also share some research on the topic 17:16:14 The ADHD document was discussed and Neil was concerned that he had not used the correct template. 17:17:09 action: lisa add to main page of wiki what we are working on and were things are 17:17:09 Created ACTION-69 - Add to main page of wiki what we are working on and were things are [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-12-08]. 17:18:44 Chaohai has offered to review the ADHD document but there is concern as to whether this is a user document or a technique document? 17:20:23 Lisa will ask for the documents that are ready for publishing to be put on Github and the early drafts to be put on the wiki. 17:20:46 The wiki will be used as it is considered to be easier to use. 17:20:52 -Kinshuk 17:23:03 Lisa said that she has done some edits on the ADHD and it will go into Github 17:23:30 Neil asked if he needs to revise it to make it into a consistent format - Lisa has offered to do this task. 17:24:42 Neil is being actioned to make aa techniques document for ADHD and Dyscalculia 17:24:44 +Janina 17:25:08 janina has joined #coga 17:25:30 Techniques and issue papers are being made as part of the gap analysis 17:27:54 John was going to proofread the user group paper 17:29:06 +John_Rochford 17:29:39 JohnRochford has joined #coga 17:30:03 Debra confirmed that she was happy with the Aphasia techniques paper. 17:30:20 s/Debra/Deborah 17:30:40 Need new action item for non-vocal - re:AAC and symbola 17:31:11 zakim, next item 17:31:11 agendum 2. "steps for editors draft, including checking cog table and adding ADD changes" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman] 17:31:30 Lisa noted her work on Voice xml and completed 17:31:40 https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag/coga-gap-analysis-2014-fpwd/coga/user-research.html 17:31:43 -Janina 17:31:58 Noise on the line - poor audio - missed a section 17:32:55 Should non-vocal be kept separate from Aphasia 17:33:13 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis#Section_2:_Background_research_.28modularized_in_part.29 17:33:38 q? 17:35:40 Tim has joined #coga 17:36:02 q? 17:36:10 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/non-vocal 17:37:02 +??P8 17:38:23 Debra and EA commented on the differences between many individuals with Aphasia who tend to have the difficulties as a result of a stroke rather than an AAC user who may have been using symbols from an early age.and may have other difficulties. 17:41:24 +Tim_Boland 17:42:02 Neil pointed out that everything we do should be for web developers and at the back of our minds this should be what should be addressed. 17:42:28 Neil commented on the MAUR document and said how clear it was and unambiguous. 17:43:09 Lisa agreed that we need to be focussing on the practical. issues and move forward. 17:45:09 Lisa also commented on the need for background research to back the final output - so techniques documents are important. 17:47:15 Lisa asked what needs to be done for the User Research module 17:47:25 Apologies I need to drop off. Bye :) 17:47:33 -Tony_Doran 17:52:08 ack me 17:52:26 Debra, Joseph and EA will offer to separate the Aphasia and Non-vocal sections on github and lisa will send the HTML documents 17:52:42 Lisa asked Michael if this was possible 17:53:47 There are concerns that this will delay publication 17:55:04 Lisa will send out an HTML file with the contents 17:56:03 The file will be sent back as two files with new headings as separate items - Aphasia and non-verbal 17:56:40 action: EA, and Debra and Joseph to seprate non verble and aspasia into two sections. Lisa to send the file 17:56:40 Error finding 'EA,'. You can review and register nicknames at . 17:56:57 action: E.A. Draffan, and Debra and Joseph to seprate non verble and aspasia into two sections. Lisa to send the file 17:56:57 Created ACTION-70 - Draffan, and debra and joseph to seprate non verble and aspasia into two sections. lisa to send the file [on E.A. Draffan - due 2014-12-08]. 17:59:28 -??P8 17:59:35 https://rawgit.com/w3c/wcag/coga-gap-analysis-2014-fpwd/coga/user-research.html 18:00:23 John feels this document needs quite a bit of copy editing and he has offered to carry out this task. 18:01:16 -Michael_Cooper 18:01:16 Lisa is going to offer more supporting documentation to help with the course of the work being undertaken. 18:01:29 Lisa thanked everyone for attending the meeting. 18:01:33 -Susann_Keohane 18:01:35 -John_Rochford 18:01:38 -Tim_Boland 18:01:40 -Debbie_Dahl 18:02:03 rrsagent, make logs public 18:02:08 rrsagent, create minutes 18:02:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/12/01-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman 18:02:13 zakim, please part 18:02:13 leaving. As of this point the attendees were Kinshuk, Lisa_Seeman, neilmilliken, +1.512.445.aaaa, +44.289.442.aabb, Tony_Doran, Susann_Keohane, Debbie_Dahl, Michael_Cooper, 18:02:13 Zakim has left #coga 18:02:17 ... Janina, John_Rochford, Tim_Boland 18:02:22 rrsagent, please part 18:02:22 I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/01-coga-actions.rdf : 18:02:22 ACTION: lisa add to main page of wiki what we are working on and were things are [1] 18:02:22 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/01-coga-irc#T17-17-09 18:02:22 ACTION: EA, and Debra and Joseph to seprate non verble and aspasia into two sections. Lisa to send the file [2] 18:02:22 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/01-coga-irc#T17-56-40 18:02:22 ACTION: E.A. Draffan, and Debra and Joseph to seprate non verble and aspasia into two sections. Lisa to send the file [3] 18:02:22 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/01-coga-irc#T17-56-57