IRC log of aapi on 2014-11-25

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Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 25 November 2014
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WAI_PFWG(AAPI)3:00PM has now started
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+[GVoice]
19:56:28 [clown]
zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
19:56:28 [Zakim]
+Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
19:56:36 [clown]
zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
19:56:36 [Zakim]
ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
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chair: Joseph_Scheuhammer
19:56:52 [clown]
agenda: this
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agenda+ ISSUE-568: (All) need actions for mappings or aria-modal for all AAPIs.
19:57:04 [clown]
agenda+ ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current.
19:57:10 [clown]
agenda+ ACTION-1529/ISSUE-587: (Joseph) Investigate the proper atk/at-spi mappings for aria-current.
19:57:15 [clown]
agenda+ ACTION-1527ISSUE-587: (Cynthia) Investigate the proper uia mappings for aria-current.
19:57:22 [clown]
agenda+ ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435: (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text".
19:57:27 [clown]
agenda+ ACTION-1530/ISSUE-435: (Cynthia) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text".
19:57:38 [clown]
agenda+ ACTION-1532/ISSUE-435: (Joseph) investigate atk/at-spi mapping of role="text".
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agenda+ ACTION-1104: (Cynthia) Define the UIA mapping for aria-describedby when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies.
19:57:49 [clown]
agenda+ ACTION-1445/ISSUE-661: (Cynthia) Investigate ideal mapping for role presentation in tables and lists.
19:57:55 [clown]
agenda+ Continue with ACTIONs/ISSUEs for core-aam 1.1: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/23
19:58:03 [clown]
agenda+ be done.
19:58:50 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-aapi-minutes.html clown
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+Joanmarie_Diggs
19:59:25 [joanie]
Zakim, I am Joanmarie_Diggs
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ok, joanie, I now associate you with Joanmarie_Diggs
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+Bryan_Garaventa
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-Joanmarie_Diggs
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zakim, I am Bryan_Garaventa
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ok, bgaraventa1979, I now associate you with Bryan_Garaventa
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+Joanmarie_Diggs
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+ +1.416.848.aaaa
20:04:14 [davidb]
Zakim, aaaa is David_Bolter
20:04:14 [Zakim]
+David_Bolter; got it
20:04:17 [Zakim]
-Joanmarie_Diggs
20:11:01 [clown]
http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#text
20:12:58 [davidb]
looks good
20:14:42 [clown]
scribenick: bgaraventa1979
20:15:27 [bgaraventa1979]
zakim, take up item 1
20:15:27 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "ISSUE-568: (All) need actions for mappings or aria-modal for all AAPIs." taken up [from clown]
20:15:34 [clown]
issue-568?
20:15:34 [trackbot]
issue-568 -- Introduce system modal attributes for dialogs -- open
20:15:34 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/568
20:15:52 [Zakim]
+Joanmarie_Diggs
20:16:42 [joanie]
scribenick: joanie
20:17:03 [joanie]
JS: The spec already has aria-modal in it.
20:17:03 [clown]
http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#aria-modal
20:17:12 [joanie]
JS: Here it is (above)
20:17:30 [joanie]
JS: We need mappings for them. There are currently no actions. I'd like to assign them.
20:17:42 [joanie]
JS: One for David for IA2, one for Joanie for ATK, etc.
20:17:47 [joanie]
JS: Is that ok?
20:17:56 [joanie]
All: Yes.
20:18:46 [joanie]
DB: It will be more than mapping.
20:18:52 [joanie]
JS: What else would it be?
20:19:16 [joanie]
DB: I guess... I bet James is wondering if it will disallow user action outside the modal dialog.
20:19:24 [joanie]
JS: [Reads definition]
20:19:44 [joanie]
s/James/James Craig/
20:20:10 [joanie]
DB: We should try to scope ARIA so that it has clearly defined boundaries.
20:20:25 [joanie]
DB: My thinking is that I would not change accessibility stuff.
20:20:47 [joanie]
DB: So if someone put aria-modal on something, I'd want them to have already handled making it functionally modal.
20:21:02 [joanie]
JS: It was my assumption that authors would have created a modal user experience.
20:21:13 [joanie]
DB: As we've discovered over the years, we need to be explicity about that.
20:21:35 [joanie]
JS: [Reads more text]
20:22:13 [clown]
action: David Bolter to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for IA2 and/or MSAA.
20:22:13 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-1538 - Bolter to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for ia2 and/or msaa. [on David Bolter - due 2014-12-02].
20:22:15 [joanie]
JS: So HTML has an inert attribute so they (authors) should mark the rest of the document inert. Though it's not required.
20:22:18 [joanie]
DB: Ok.
20:22:41 [clown]
action: Joanie to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for ATK/AT-SPI
20:22:41 [clown]
20:22:42 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-1539 - Investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for atk/at-spi [on Joanmarie Diggs - due 2014-12-02].
20:22:51 [joanie]
action-1539
20:22:51 [trackbot]
action-1539 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for atk/at-spi -- due 2014-12-02 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1539
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action: Cythia to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for UIA.
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20:23:07 [trackbot]
Error finding 'Cythia'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/users>.
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action: Cynthia to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for UIA.
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20:23:24 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-1540 - Investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for uia. [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2014-12-02].
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action: James Craig to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for AXAPI.
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'James' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jcraig, jhawkins2, jnurthen).
20:24:25 [joanie]
JS: Warning, because this is already in the spec, I'm going to propose something soon if no one else does.
20:24:36 [joanie]
JS: I think David was the only one who replied (to my email)
20:24:39 [joanie]
DB: Sounds right.
20:24:39 [clown]
action: jcraig to investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for AXAPI.
20:24:39 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-1541 - Investigate and propose mappings for aria-modal property for axapi. [on James Craig - due 2014-12-02].
20:25:16 [joanie]
JD: I just did my action and transfered it to you (Joseph)
20:25:34 [joanie]
JS: I think there is already an IA2 one.
20:25:42 [joanie]
JS: [Looks for email on mailing list]
20:26:08 [clown]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Nov/0077.html
20:26:25 [joanie]
JS: There it is [reads from above email]
20:26:54 [joanie]
JS: I stand corrected, nobody replied to me.
20:27:25 [joanie]
Zakim, next item
20:27:25 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:27:40 [clown]
action-1528?
20:27:40 [trackbot]
action-1528 -- Alexander Surkov to Bolter to investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
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https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1528
20:27:47 [joanie]
JS: aria-current is not in the spec yet.
20:28:03 [joanie]
JS: This is about the MSAA mapping for aria-current.
20:28:14 [joanie]
JS: Since it's not in the spec yet, there's no rush on this.
20:28:32 [joanie]
DB: I filed a bug about this earlier today.
20:28:41 [clown]
s/the MSAA mapping for aria-current/the MSAA-IA2 mapping for aria-current/
20:28:52 [joanie]
DB: We were talking about it a few days ago.
20:29:04 [joanie]
DB: Whatever ATK does, we'll do in IA2.
20:29:16 [joanie]
JS: ATK is doing STATE_ACTIVE.
20:29:28 [joanie]
DB: We filed the bug and CCed James Teh.
20:29:46 [joanie]
JS: But there's still discussion on the mailing list regarding this versus selected versus focused.
20:30:10 [joanie]
JD: [Points out that Dominic suggested aria-active]
20:30:41 [joanie]
DB: Question, what if the user changes the browser tabs. Should we attempt to put focus there?
20:30:44 [joanie]
JS: No.
20:31:01 [joanie]
JS: When they come back, they should go back to where they were before.
20:31:06 [joanie]
BG: That makes sense to me.
20:31:13 [joanie]
DB: I just asked because it would be a handy thing.
20:31:30 [clown]
http://idrc.ocad.ca/index.php/research-and-development/ongoing-projects
20:31:59 [joanie]
JS: I actually found that our own website [link above]. If you look on the left, there's a table of contents on the left. It's not a tree view; it's just a list of links.
20:32:17 [joanie]
JS: [Describes blue arrow showing current item in contents]
20:32:21 [joanie]
JS: That's aria-current
20:32:29 [joanie]
DB: When does it matter wrt the screen reader?
20:32:41 [joanie]
JS: "Screen reader, tell me what's current?"
20:33:04 [joanie]
BG: It shouldn't be anything complicated. When you're arrowing or tabbing through it. The screen reader should speak what's current.
20:33:17 [joanie]
JS: Would you want a gesture for "what's current?"
20:33:32 [joanie]
BG: You could do that, but you don't have to.
20:33:36 [joanie]
DB: That makes sense to me.
20:34:03 [joanie]
JS: Also, if you're on the main page and there's a next button that takes you to something else, making the current change, I think you should get an event.
20:34:12 [joanie]
JS: And you will in a proper implementation of ATK.
20:34:16 [joanie]
BG: Sounds good to me.
20:34:25 [joanie]
Zakim, take up item 5
20:34:25 [Zakim]
agendum 5. "ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435: (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:34:36 [clown]
action-1531?
20:34:36 [trackbot]
action-1531 -- David Bolter to Bolter to investigate ia2 mapping of role="text" -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:34:36 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1531
20:35:49 [joanie]
Zakim, take up item 2
20:35:49 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:36:03 [joanie]
DB: aria-active could be confused for aria-activedescendant
20:36:21 [joanie]
JS: And I take it you're warning that the name aria-active might not be a good one.
20:36:24 [joanie]
DB: Maybe
20:36:56 [joanie]
DB: I also think the aria-current idea in my head is overlapping with aria-activedescendant
20:37:07 [joanie]
DB: But I understand they are different
20:37:13 [joanie]
JS: aria-activedescendant is about focus.
20:37:19 [joanie]
JS: aria-current is not about focus.
20:37:38 [joanie]
[group makes fun of the scribe]
20:37:44 [joanie]
Zakim, take up item 5
20:37:44 [Zakim]
agendum 5. "ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435: (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:38:19 [joanie]
DB: The main thing for me is Alex has to be ok with whatever we have planned.
20:38:33 [joanie]
action-1531
20:38:33 [trackbot]
action-1531 -- David Bolter to Bolter to investigate ia2 mapping of role="text" -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:38:33 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1531
20:39:04 [joanie]
DB: So where is the group? What do you want from me.
20:39:17 [joanie]
JS: ATK/AT-SPI2 has a new role: ROLE_STATIC.
20:39:24 [joanie]
JS: They even created the documentation for it.
20:40:07 [clown]
https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkObject.html
20:40:28 [davidb]
https://developer.gnome.org/atk/unstable/AtkObject.html#AtkRole
20:41:33 [joanie]
DB: This seems to mirror the spec text well, at least not contradict it.
20:41:40 [joanie]
DB: What do we have in IA2 currently?
20:42:07 [joanie]
DB: This should ... Alex had a stronger opinion on this than I did.
20:42:31 [joanie]
DB: I can say the spec text looks good and the ATK text looks good, but I cannot give you an answer for IA2 today.
20:43:02 [joanie]
[DB departs]
20:43:04 [Zakim]
-David_Bolter
20:43:12 [joanie]
JS: I'll mark it as TBD in the spec.
20:43:18 [joanie]
Zakim, take up item 3
20:43:18 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "ACTION-1529/ISSUE-587: (Joseph) Investigate the proper atk/at-spi mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:43:23 [clown]
action-1529
20:43:23 [trackbot]
action-1529 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Investigate the proper atk/at-spi mappings for aria-current -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:43:23 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1529
20:43:30 [joanie]
JS: I think I'm ready to go on this.
20:43:49 [joanie]
JS: Yes, I'm ready to write everything that needs to be. I just haven't done it yet. I'll do it sometime this week.
20:44:02 [joanie]
BG: I'll catch up on that.
20:44:08 [joanie]
JS: There's a lot of notes.
20:44:23 [joanie]
JS: Oh this is for aria-current. I guess I should wait until the spec text is there.
20:44:39 [joanie]
JS: Usually the mapping points back to the spec where the property is defined.
20:44:56 [joanie]
JS: So I may wait until the next heartbeat.
20:45:10 [joanie]
BG: Does it matter if it's called aria-current or aria-active?
20:45:29 [joanie]
JS: I would have said 'no' until David mentioned the potential confusion with activedescendant.
20:45:40 [joanie]
JS: We're trying to make it easy for the author.
20:45:58 [joanie]
[Jokes about Matt's aria-youarehere]
20:46:10 [joanie]
Zakim, next item
20:46:10 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:46:21 [joanie]
Zakim, close item 2
20:46:21 [Zakim]
agendum 2, ACTION-1528/ISSUE-587: (David) Investigate the proper ia2 mappings for aria-current., closed
20:46:23 [joanie]
Zakim, next item
20:46:24 [Zakim]
I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:46:24 [Zakim]
4. ACTION-1527ISSUE-587: (Cynthia) Investigate the proper uia mappings for aria-current. [from clown]
20:46:24 [Zakim]
agendum 4. "ACTION-1527ISSUE-587: (Cynthia) Investigate the proper uia mappings for aria-current." taken up [from clown]
20:46:33 [clown]
action-1527
20:46:33 [trackbot]
action-1527 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate the proper uia mappings for aria-current -- due 2015-01-31 -- OPEN
20:46:33 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1527
20:46:41 [joanie]
JS: We'll check the action to see if she made any notes. But she's not here.
20:46:56 [joanie]
JS: She says in her latest note [reads].
20:47:16 [joanie]
JS: My vote is get something like aria-current added to UIA.
20:47:28 [joanie]
BG: That's my vote. I never liked the idea of them being the same thing.
20:48:23 [joanie]
The text from action-1527 under discussion is: "selectionitem pattern can't be used on images. It looks like there is not a good mapping to UIA for this. Now the question is whether to update both ARIA and UIA to allow selection on any role/control type, or to try to get something like aria-current added to uia."
20:48:42 [joanie]
JS: I guess we'll address this when she's back.
20:48:49 [joanie]
JS: Thank you Cynthia for adding that note.
20:48:53 [joanie]
Zakim, next item
20:48:53 [Zakim]
agendum 5. "ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435: (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:49:03 [joanie]
Zakim, close item 5
20:49:03 [Zakim]
agendum 5, ACTION-1531/ISSUE-435: (David) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"., closed
20:49:05 [joanie]
Zakim, next item
20:49:06 [Zakim]
I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
20:49:06 [Zakim]
6. ACTION-1530/ISSUE-435: (Cynthia) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text". [from clown]
20:49:06 [Zakim]
agendum 6. "ACTION-1530/ISSUE-435: (Cynthia) investigate ia2 mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:49:13 [clown]
action-1530?
20:49:13 [trackbot]
action-1530 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate uia mapping of role="text" -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:49:13 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1530
20:49:21 [joanie]
JS: [Looks for note for this action]
20:49:36 [clown]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee671651%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
20:49:52 [joanie]
Cynthia's note on action-1530 is: "The best mapping would be the Text control type. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee671651(v=vs.85).aspx
20:49:55 [joanie]
However, I the inheritance model of the text role described in the draft makes me very uncomfortable. I think it will be used in error and remove a lot of semantics and behavior from children.
20:50:05 [joanie]
(end of quote)
20:50:19 [joanie]
JS: That sounds right, but there's a "However".
20:50:34 [joanie]
JS: It has events too.
20:50:55 [joanie]
JS: That does make me a little.... I wouldn't expect something that has role="text" to spawn any events.
20:51:02 [joanie]
JS: Is offscreen an event?
20:51:08 [joanie]
BG: I guess.
20:51:27 [joanie]
JS: It's a property. If it moves offscreen... text can move/scroll offscreen.
20:51:37 [joanie]
JS: I guess I need to talk to her to see what this means.
20:51:46 [joanie]
BG: That could be useful.
20:51:55 [joanie]
JS: I'm not planning on adding any events for role="text"
20:52:06 [joanie]
JS: So wait until she gets back. I think that's a topic for the Monday group.
20:52:15 [joanie]
BG: Sounds good to me.
20:52:57 [joanie]
JS: I'll just do the role mapping part for now; nothing new to the events table.
20:53:33 [joanie]
Zakim, next item
20:53:33 [Zakim]
agendum 7. "ACTION-1532/ISSUE-435: (Joseph) investigate atk/at-spi mapping of role="text"." taken up [from clown]
20:53:39 [clown]
action-1532?
20:53:40 [trackbot]
action-1532 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Investigate atk/at-spi mapping of role="text" -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:53:40 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1532
20:54:02 [joanie]
JS: I think that's going to be nothing more than... I know what I need to do here. Yes.
20:54:22 [joanie]
JS: I have the mappings for ATK/AT-SPI2 and will use that.
20:55:00 [joanie]
Zakim, next item
20:55:00 [Zakim]
agendum 8. "ACTION-1104: (Cynthia) Define the UIA mapping for aria-describedby when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies."
20:55:03 [Zakim]
... taken up [from clown]
20:55:10 [clown]
action-1104?
20:55:10 [trackbot]
action-1104 -- Cynthia Shelly to Define what the accessibility API mapping is for UIA on aria-describedby in section 5.5.1 table when the element does not exist in the accessibility tree such as when css: display:none applies -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:55:11 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1104
20:55:14 [joanie]
JS: Another Cynthia one. Is there a note?
20:55:24 [joanie]
JS: No.
20:55:43 [joanie]
JS: This is the one where when you use aria-describedby with UIA it actually creates a pointer to the description.
20:55:59 [joanie]
JS: If the description has CSS display:none, it's not in the accessibility tree and there's nothing to point to.
20:56:12 [joanie]
JS: Everyone else just grabs the string so there's no need for pointers.
20:56:29 [joanie]
JS: So there's been this question since 2012 about how do you handle this in UIA.
20:56:50 [joanie]
JS: At one point, Cynthia suggested fallback to legacy description, but then stated that is not really the right thing to do.
20:57:19 [joanie]
BG: Unless and until something does get added, there's nothing else available.
20:57:32 [joanie]
Zakim, next item
20:57:32 [Zakim]
agendum 9. "ACTION-1445/ISSUE-661: (Cynthia) Investigate ideal mapping for role presentation in tables and lists." taken up [from clown]
20:57:37 [clown]
action-1445?
20:57:37 [trackbot]
action-1445 -- Cynthia Shelly to Investigate the ideal uai mapping for role presentation in tables and lists. -- due 2014-11-18 -- OPEN
20:57:37 [trackbot]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445
20:57:50 [joanie]
JS: No note on action-1445
20:58:08 [joanie]
JS: I don't think I'll get how to handle role="presentation" for tables and lists into the mapping guide.
20:58:18 [joanie]
JS: But I'll think about it. There might be something general I can say.
20:58:40 [joanie]
JS: I know we have this resolved for ATK and I think IA2.
20:59:24 [clown]
scribnick: clown
21:00:07 [clown]
JD: I created a bug against FF that said to map, say, a gridcell with role presentation to the same thing as a div.
21:00:25 [clown]
JD: But, they recently closed that bug, and maybe something similar was done with IA2.
21:00:31 [clown]
JD: <looks up bug>
21:00:54 [clown]
JD: My point is it may have been resolved for IA2 as well.
21:01:05 [joanie]
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1013584
21:01:19 [joanie]
https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/38f5bfa0e2f7
21:04:34 [clown]
s/scribnick:  clown/scribenic: clown/
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-aapi-minutes.html clown
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ACTION: Joanie to verify the commit for mozilla bug 1013584 and report the ATK role to Joseph.
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Created ACTION-1542 - Verify the commit for mozilla bug 1013584 and report the atk role to joseph. [on Joanmarie Diggs - due 2014-12-02].
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s/scribnick/scribenick/
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-aapi-minutes.html clown
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scribenick: joanie
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Regrets: Cynthia_Shelly
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Zakim, part
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were Joseph_Scheuhammer, Joanmarie_Diggs, Bryan_Garaventa, +1.416.848.aaaa, David_Bolter
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Zakim has left #aapi
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RRSAgent, stop
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s/scribnick/scribenick/g
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/25-aapi-minutes.html joanie
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RRSAgent, stop