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14:58:13 <jeff> zaki, this is most
14:58:14 <jeff> zakim, this is most
14:58:14 <Zakim> sorry, jeff, I do not see a conference named 'most' in progress or scheduled at this time
14:58:22 <jeff> zakim, this is priorities
14:58:22 <Zakim> sorry, jeff, I do not see a conference named 'priorities' in progress or scheduled at this time
14:58:30 <jeff> zakim, what is scheduled for 10AM?
14:58:31 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, jeff.
14:58:47 <jeff> zakim, what is scheduled for now?
14:58:47 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, jeff.
14:58:54 <jeff> zaki, schedule?
14:58:59 <jeff> zakim, schedule?
14:58:59 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, jeff.
14:59:05 <jeff> zakim, this is w3c
14:59:05 <Zakim> sorry, jeff, I do not see a conference named 'w3c' in progress or scheduled at this time
14:59:15 <jeff> zakim, this is importnat
14:59:15 <Zakim> sorry, jeff, I do not see a conference named 'importnat' in progress or scheduled at this time
14:59:20 <jeff> zakim, this is important
14:59:20 <Zakim> sorry, jeff, I do not see a conference named 'important' in progress or scheduled at this time
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15:01:53 <wseltzer> zakim, who is here?
15:01:53 <Zakim> sorry, wseltzer, I don't know what conference this is
15:01:55 <Zakim> On IRC I see wseltzer, trackbot, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeff
15:02:09 <wseltzer> zakim, this is 64783
15:02:09 <Zakim> ok, wseltzer; that matches Team_JEFF(MIPTF)10:00AM
15:02:13 <wseltzer> zakim, who is here?
15:02:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see +33.1.43.92.aaaa, Jeff, [IPcaller], Wendy
15:02:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see wseltzer, trackbot, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeff
15:02:24 <wseltzer> zakim, aaaa may be Pierre_Danet
15:02:24 <Zakim> +Pierre_Danet?; got it
15:02:43 <jeff> zakim, [ip is bruce lawson
15:02:43 <Zakim> I don't understand '[ip is bruce lawson', jeff
15:02:47 <wseltzer> zakim, [IPC may be Bruce_Lawson
15:02:47 <Zakim> +Bruce_Lawson?; got it
15:03:26 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:03:39 <wseltzer> zakim, [IPC is Marcos
15:03:39 <Zakim> +Marcos; got it
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15:04:32 <timeless> Zakim, who is on the call?
15:04:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see Pierre_Danet?, Jeff, Bruce_Lawson?, Wendy, Marcos, +1.416.440.aabb
15:04:39 <wseltzer> zakim, aabb is timeless
15:04:39 <Zakim> +timeless; got it
15:04:46 <timeless> Zakim, mute me
15:04:46 <Zakim> timeless should now be muted
15:04:49 <timeless> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:04:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-most-minutes.html timeless
15:04:59 <timeless> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:05:00 <timeless> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:05:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-most-minutes.html timeless
15:05:22 <wseltzer> wseltzer has changed the topic to: https://www.w3.org/wiki/AB/2014-2015_Priorities/w3c_most_important
15:05:24 <timeless> chair: jeff
15:05:36 <timeless> scribe: timeless
15:05:53 <timeless> jeff: glazou wanted to be here
15:06:01 <timeless> ... he is speaking [elsewhere] at this time
15:06:10 <Pdanet> Pdanet has joined #Most
15:06:10 <timeless> ... he requested the meeting minutes be available promptly
15:06:11 <wseltzer> regrets+ glazou
15:06:20 <timeless> ... i sent the draft agenda last night, i hope people received it
15:06:32 <timeless> ... first, i want to overview what we're trying to achieve in this project
15:06:46 <wseltzer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-most-important-priorities/2014Nov/0007.html
15:06:49 <timeless> ... the AB at the beginning of its term has tried to identify work to do
15:06:59 <timeless> ... this year, it selected what are the most important things to do for the year
15:07:06 <timeless> ... i put ideas into the Wiki
15:07:14 <timeless> ... but it doesn't depend on me/AB, it depends on all of us
15:07:20 <timeless> ... what we put in/what we make out of it
15:07:31 <timeless> ... i'd like to share w/ you the relationships w/ other efforts
15:07:42 <timeless> ... another is a dialogue i started at extensible-web summit
15:07:48 <timeless> ... and then team, and TPAC
15:07:59 <timeless> ... the details of that are in the email i sent yesterday
15:08:17 <timeless> ... that's one perspective of how to think of core web technologies for the future
15:08:22 <timeless> ... i view that as an input to this effort
15:08:33 <timeless> ... i'd be honored if this TF said it was a useful starting point
15:08:36 <timeless> ... and enhanced/changed it
15:08:51 <timeless> ... another thing i'd like to call out, is another AB project, called Multilingual W3C
15:09:12 <timeless> ... one of the other things i noted was for W3C to have a global-slate of stakeholders
15:09:38 <timeless> ... we might deprecate that, concluding that a different AB TF chartered 2 weeks ago, being led by key participants from Korea+Japan
15:09:48 <timeless> ... it might be that that TF can manage that
15:09:58 <timeless> ... and thus, it may no longer need to be a focus of our work here
15:10:14 <timeless> ... another thing, is... our capacity to take on work is somewhat finite
15:10:21 <timeless> ... only so many people in our community/team
15:10:32 <timeless> ... a companion effort that Mike_Champion is leading
15:10:37 <timeless> ... is identifying work
15:10:49 <timeless> ... that isn't properly matching stakeholders
15:10:53 <timeless> ... and stop that work early
15:10:58 <timeless> [ pause ]
15:11:22 <jeff> https://www.w3.org/wiki/AB/2014-2015_Priorities/w3c_most_important
15:11:22 <timeless> i/chair:/Topic: Overview of project/
15:11:34 <timeless> topic: Discussion of how many sub-efforts to take on
15:12:04 <timeless> jeff: to identify priorities
15:12:10 <timeless> ... it might make sense to identify stakeholders
15:12:21 <timeless> ... for browser vendors, they might ask what will be next generation technologies for the core
15:12:32 <timeless> ... for companies in important vertical industries
15:12:48 <timeless> ... digPub, digEntertain, digMarket
15:13:00 <timeless> ... they might ask a different question about bringing the total web to its full potential
15:13:18 <timeless> ... a different category is making the web more friendly for developers
15:13:28 <timeless> .. a fourth category is making the web more friendly for end users
15:13:38 <timeless> ... a fifth category is geographic needs/emerging areas
15:13:48 <timeless> ... next i'd like to get input of those attending
15:13:54 <timeless> s/.. a fo/... a fo/
15:14:03 <timeless> ... people should say if things are valuable/waste of time
15:14:11 <timeless> ... if people want to brainstorm, ...
15:14:13 <timeless> [ pause ]
15:14:27 <wseltzer> q+
15:14:27 <timeless> Zakim, who is on the call?
15:14:28 <Zakim> On the phone I see Pierre_Danet?, Jeff, Bruce_Lawson?, Wendy, Marcos, timeless (muted)
15:14:32 <timeless> ack wseltzer
15:14:37 <timeless> wseltzer: thanks jeff
15:14:46 <timeless> ... perhaps i can help kick off conversations
15:14:52 <timeless> ... Wendy Seltzer
15:15:01 <timeless> ... i work on the Technology+Privacy domain
15:15:14 <timeless> ... one of the things i see as a priority is increasing privacy+security features of the web
15:15:21 <timeless> ... while i see it as a component of core
15:15:28 <timeless> ... sometimes it's a horizontal
15:15:38 <timeless> ... should we fit it in Core, or set up a different category
15:15:48 <timeless> jeff: from my perspective, Security+Privacy is definitely core
15:16:04 <timeless> Pdanet: XXX
15:16:10 <timeless> ... as you know, the DigPub WG is working on QQ
15:16:17 <timeless> ... education globally
15:16:25 <wseltzer> s/QQ/EduPub/
15:16:28 <timeless> ... which is much more than text books, including accessibility
15:16:39 <marcosc> +q
15:16:39 <timeless> ... this is more than the WG, and should be a priority for the Web/W3C
15:16:47 <timeless> jeff: i think that's a great idea, and thanks for your email
15:16:50 <timeless> s/+q/q+
15:17:07 <timeless> ... if we adopt something like education, we'd need to shape that, what problems should we work on
15:17:15 <timeless> ack marcosc
15:17:23 <timeless> marcosc: from the browser vendors' perspective
15:17:29 <timeless> ... we're interested in what is the platform missing
15:17:36 <timeless> ... things that come out of the education discussions
15:17:51 <timeless> ... if we get too focussed on a specific domain
15:18:02 <timeless> ... we risk going down -- standardizing formats
15:18:06 <timeless> ... which might be ok
15:18:18 <brucel> +q
15:18:23 <timeless> ... or look at it as a software platform
15:18:26 <timeless> s/+q/q+
15:18:34 <timeless> jeff:  i see that as a fair summary
15:18:48 <timeless> brucel: OOO with PPW
15:18:51 <timeless> ... i agree w/ marcosc
15:18:59 <timeless> ... looking at where the web can't compete w/ natie
15:19:09 <timeless> ... wondering about the fourth category, making the web more friendly for end users
15:19:19 <timeless> ... for me, the web being user-friendly or not is UI
15:19:22 <timeless> ... in browsers/web clients
15:19:26 <timeless> s/natie/native/
15:19:40 <timeless> ... i don't think we should look at product differentiators
15:20:00 <timeless> jeff: i'd agree that UI is a big piece of the end user experience
15:20:03 <marcosc> q+
15:20:13 <timeless> ack brucel
15:20:22 <timeless> jeff: one could take the perspective that w/ 7 billion people
15:20:34 <timeless> ... struggling to figure out browser sniffing/security exceptions
15:20:48 <timeless> ... one could argue that to lead the web to its full potential
15:20:53 <marcosc> q-
15:20:57 <timeless> ... it would be good to not leave that to companies
15:21:03 <timeless> ... i'm not pushing hard for it
15:21:05 <jeff> ack bru
15:21:09 <timeless> brucel: i think we agree
15:21:23 <timeless> ... "is the web private", "can i do conferencing on the web"
15:21:29 <timeless> ... are firmly in W3C
15:21:42 <timeless> jeff: back to wseltzer's point, we can put all the tech we want into the core of the web
15:21:51 <timeless> ... if at the end of the data what's surfaced to end users
15:22:01 <timeless> ... obscures what they need, or doesn't help them in edge cases
15:22:06 <timeless> ... then we won't have a secure web
15:22:20 <timeless> ... 10-20% of security, a lot of the way security gets broken is human-engineering
15:22:30 <timeless> ... sloppy usage/maintenance of passwords
15:22:39 <timeless> brucel: i think we agree
15:23:05 <timeless> jeff: in the write-up, i kind of differentiated
15:23:13 <timeless> ... between the core web and developers
15:23:22 <timeless> ... it could be in making the APIs usable
15:23:27 <timeless> ... training sites
15:23:30 <timeless> ... caniuse
15:23:37 <timeless> ... developer training, validation service
15:23:50 <timeless> ... w3c doesn't do much in that area, just as UI is vendor specific today
15:24:07 <timeless> ... we've done a bit, the browser vendors asked us to make webplatform.org
15:24:15 <timeless> ... question to browser folks,
15:24:22 <timeless> ... would it be useful to look at what we can do for devs
15:24:26 <timeless> ... or focus on our core areas
15:24:42 <timeless> Pdanet: do we receive questions/complaints from dev community?
15:24:48 <marcosc> +q
15:24:52 <timeless> s/+q/q+
15:25:00 <timeless> jeff: there's a whole industry training web developers
15:25:11 <timeless> ... i have two children who went through boot camp to be web developers
15:25:17 <timeless> ... there's no certification to be web developers
15:25:21 <timeless> ... there appears to be work needed
15:25:40 <timeless> ... we recently had pressure to make Webizens, the name will probably be changed
15:25:41 <timeless> ack marcosc
15:25:58 <timeless> marcosc: we need to evaluate whether webplatform.org was successful/not
15:26:12 <timeless> ... for developers to find the info they need
15:26:31 <timeless> ... the value of certification, i'm not sure
15:26:38 <timeless> ... i saw 3-4 developing for web mobile
15:26:41 <timeless> ... people learned a lot
15:26:52 <timeless> ... i still think competitively, other institutions are doing/can do it much better
15:26:56 <timeless> ... it's there core focus
15:27:05 <timeless> ... i think we did a fantastic job
15:27:14 <timeless> ... you can look at the feedback
15:27:24 <timeless> ... but other organizations are doing it just as good as w3c
15:28:11 <timeless> jeff: strong interest for core
15:28:17 <timeless> ... some interest from Pdanet for verticals
15:28:27 <timeless> ... insufficient interest for devs/users/geographic
15:28:40 <timeless> ... next, i'd like to organize subefforts
15:28:50 <timeless> ... if TF would allow it, i'd suggest breaking into subefforts
15:29:04 <timeless> ... 1. most important efforts for core
15:29:20 <timeless> ... 2. Pdanet, i, looking into verticals
15:29:24 <timeless>  ... should we enhance education on the web
15:29:35 <timeless> ... in the era of MOOC
15:29:41 <timeless> ... education is transformative
15:29:50 <timeless> Pdanet: education for developers, is also a way to use MOOCs
15:30:10 <timeless> Massive Open Online Course (MOOC)
15:30:25 <timeless> jeff: for core, we should use [core] on the ML
15:30:32 <timeless> ... for verticals, we should use [verticals] on the ML
15:30:50 <timeless> ... +1's/-1's to that proposal?
15:31:06 <timeless> marcosc: my concern is looking at MOOCs
15:31:09 <timeless> ... is the wrong focus
15:31:16 <timeless> ... how to improve education vs. platform
15:31:45 <timeless> jeff: "what are the enhancements to the web platform which are sufficiently general that it would be useful for multiple applications
15:32:00 <timeless> ... but in particular are vital for applications for education on the web
15:32:06 <timeless> s/web/web"/
15:32:14 <timeless> ... k12 education on web, textbooks
15:32:26 <timeless> ... creative activity on the web, more than traditional textbooks can do
15:32:32 <timeless> ... all the way to MOOCs
15:32:40 <brucel> [btw, if I disappear abruptly, it's because I have to get the front door for my kids coming back from school. Not sulking or fallen out with you all.]
15:32:57 <timeless> marcosc: concerned about too much focus on one domain
15:33:02 <jeff> +1 to bruce for supporting education
15:33:03 <timeless> ... but that sounds good
15:33:10 <timeless> Pdanet: MOOCs are only an example
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15:33:13 <timeless> ... a way to educate
15:33:23 <timeless> ... we should think about what w3c should do to give to the education community
15:33:35 <jeff> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:33:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Pierre_Danet?, Jeff, Bruce_Lawson?, Wendy, Marcos, timeless (muted)
15:33:36 <timeless> ... exercising, videos, tests, assessments, adaptive learning
15:33:40 <timeless> ... adults, kids, teachers
15:33:47 <timeless> marcosc: that's exactly what i'm interested in
15:34:05 <timeless> ... 1. what doesn't the web provide today that enables the things you described
15:34:20 <timeless> ... creating exercises,  ... doing all that stuff is particularly interested to me
15:34:29 <timeless> ... the burden of proof that the web doesn't do something
15:34:32 <timeless> ... that's on you guys
15:34:40 <timeless> ... "the web is deficient in this area"
15:34:47 <timeless> ... "this is too slow -- it doesn't matter what we do"
15:34:56 <Pdanet> It was Pierre, yes
15:35:06 <timeless> jeff: it's quite likely that what can be done
15:35:17 <timeless> ... it's often a case of connecting authors of materials for education
15:35:23 <timeless> ... to existing technologies
15:35:34 <timeless> ... it's possible we'll find unique requirements, in education...
15:35:38 <timeless> ... people have domain specific needs
15:35:48 <timeless> ... complex Math notation in college course
15:35:50 <timeless> ... Music notation
15:35:54 <timeless> ... it's an interesting exercise
15:36:06 <timeless> ... if we come up with nothing new, at least we've organized things
15:36:13 <timeless> ... and can share with the education community
15:36:19 <timeless> marcosc: as an ex-academic, i'm excited
15:36:24 <timeless> ... i'll help in any way i can
15:36:42 <timeless> jeff: so far education focus doesn't have a technology focus in it
15:36:49 <timeless> topic: How do we want to organize sub-efforts
15:37:19 <timeless> jeff: My proposal is that each sub-effort should have a leader and some number of people on the team.
15:37:26 <timeless> ... i'm happy to chair, or have someone else chair
15:37:35 <timeless> ... volunteers to chair either efforts?
15:37:54 <timeless> marcosc: i could volunteer to chair core, but i'll be limited capacity for four months
15:38:14 <timeless> jeff: i'm not necessarily an expert, but i can drive a schedule
15:38:22 <timeless> ... marcosc, i'd be happy to welcome you as a cochair
15:38:32 <timeless> ... you can be a cochair for technology
15:38:50 <timeless> RESOLUTION: jeff + marcosc will cochair Core subeffort, jeff on administrative, and marcosc on technology
15:38:57 <timeless> jeff: chairing for education vertical?
15:39:08 <timeless> Pdanet: i could do it, but i'm very shy
15:39:15 <timeless> ... i'd need training/education for cochairing
15:39:38 <timeless> RESOLUTION: jeff + Pdanet will cochair Education subeffort, jeff on administrative, and Pdanet on domain expertise
15:39:48 <timeless> jeff: i'd further propose
15:40:20 <timeless> ... we should have two 1 hour calls
15:40:26 <timeless> ... i can send out doodle polls
15:40:41 <timeless> ... education call will probably talk about what's already been discussed in DigPub IG
15:40:54 <timeless> ... core, i'll probably push for people to comment on App Foundation discussion
15:41:03 <timeless> ... shred / embrace / modify
15:41:18 <timeless> ... how do people feel about using weekly calls + wiki for communication?
15:41:28 <timeless> jeff: two votes for biweekly
15:41:34 <timeless> Pdanet: i think we should schedule now
15:41:41 <timeless> jeff: we'll need to do a doodle poll
15:41:50 <timeless> ... glazou and others weren't available for today's call
15:41:59 <timeless> ... i'd like to use most-important ML to let people sign up
15:42:10 <timeless> ... we'll set the times w/in the next week
15:42:15 <timeless> ... probably schedule calls through May
15:42:26 <timeless> ... nominal completion date is AC meeting in Paris
15:42:40 <timeless> ... there's a AC meeting in Tokyo along the way
15:43:04 <timeless> i/probably/topic: Overall schedule
15:43:22 <timeless> jeff: we've been talking about structure
15:43:26 <timeless> ... we could do AOB or Content
15:43:34 <timeless> topic: Content
15:43:38 <Zakim> -Wendy
15:43:45 <timeless> marcosc: it'd be interesting to get people's perspective about Core perspective
15:44:05 <timeless> jeff: with bringing HTML5 to REC
15:44:19 <timeless> ... it was an important point w/in W3C to take a step back, look at where we are
15:44:33 <timeless> ... we're at an inflection point, what are the important priorities for the web
15:44:43 <timeless> ... for a long time we've talked about the Gap between Native and the Web
15:44:45 <Zakim> +Wendy
15:44:51 <timeless> ... too many developers are writing apps for native platforms
15:44:58 <timeless> ... because there's something missing from the Web
15:45:11 <timeless> ... we talked internally, and then externally at extensible-web summit
15:45:24 <timeless> ... if you put yourself in the shoes of a developer
15:45:28 <timeless> ... and your platform is Web
15:45:33 <timeless> ... it's very disorganized
15:45:48 <timeless> ... there's a lot you want, some including usability/performance tuning/lifecycle
15:45:56 <timeless> ... we in W3C have an inside out perspective
15:46:10 <timeless> ... we focus on core tech, how to make things available to users
15:46:19 <timeless> ... but we don't put them into the terms of how users look for them
15:46:33 <timeless> ... from that discussion, it would be refreshing to use outside in terminology
15:46:36 <timeless> ... "how do i get security"
15:46:40 <timeless> ... "how do i get performance"
15:46:46 <timeless> ... "how do i get device interaction"
15:46:50 <timeless> ... we're doing work on Crypto APIs
15:47:04 <timeless> ... on Service Workers for offline/application lifecycle
15:47:12 <timeless> ... we're working on streaming media/realtime communication
15:47:19 <timeless> ... but maybe look at the needs of devs
15:47:27 <timeless> ... are we addressing them, are there additional gaps
15:47:40 <timeless> ... "app foundations" is a taxonomy to speak about core
15:47:51 <timeless> ... it allows us to sweep up existing work that's underway in Web Standards community
15:48:06 <timeless> ... but frame it in language useful to developer
15:48:11 <timeless> ... at a TPAC breakout
15:48:19 <timeless> ... glazou pushed for User Interaction
15:48:29 <timeless> ... an example of using framework to test ideas
15:48:49 <timeless> marcosc: sounds good in principle
15:49:13 <timeless> ... particularly w/ the proposal of rebranding the domain areas W3C focuses on
15:49:23 <timeless> ... your blog post
15:49:32 <timeless> ... let's refocus how we communicate
15:49:36 <timeless> ... using more developer language
15:49:49 <timeless> ... i think we need to go through the exercise
15:49:55 <timeless> ... "what does education need"
15:50:04 <timeless> ... the language used in Pedagogical setting is different
15:50:14 <timeless> ... than used in Software Development settings
15:50:29 <timeless> ... -- grouping various specs wrt the columns you've defined
15:50:37 <timeless> ... that'd be a good step forward, we don't have that
15:51:16 <timeless> jeff: a good question is are the 8 items in the taxonomy right
15:51:23 <timeless> ... should we reframe/add/remove?
15:51:37 <timeless> ... then inventory
15:51:39 <timeless> ... gaps
15:51:55 <timeless> ... +1000 to core subTF looking at all apps on the web
15:52:03 <timeless> ... i like the idea of one project looking at needs for everyone
15:52:17 <timeless> ... but sometimes trying to address all problems simultaneously
15:52:25 <jeff> q?
15:52:30 <timeless> ... it's nice to drill down and test assumptions, while recognizing it's one vertical
15:52:36 <timeless> marcosc: Q for education subTF
15:52:40 <timeless> ... what access do we have?
15:52:53 <timeless> .... how would that work
15:52:58 <timeless> ... what software would we look at?
15:53:14 <timeless> jeff: our ability to succeed in that area will depend on bringing in subject-matter-experts
15:53:24 <timeless> ... Pdanet if you're aware of stakeholders anywhere in the world
15:53:35 <timeless> ... not necessarily in W3C, it's an open TF
15:53:49 <timeless> ... principally Authors, but also publishers
15:53:54 <timeless> ... we need that perspectives
15:53:58 <timeless> Pdanet: of course
15:54:12 <timeless> ... but the first i'm thinking is Pearson publishing
15:54:16 <timeless> ... there's W3C members
15:54:25 <timeless> jeff: there are probably individual authors somewhere in the world
15:54:39 <timeless> ... but hitting problems faster than big publishers
15:54:56 <timeless> ... i think we're at a good stopping point
15:55:19 <timeless> ... i'll probably put out a summary of what we decided (including the minutes) to the ML, and the doodle polls for the meetings
15:55:33 <timeless> ... i think having fewer than 10 people on the call is under-representation
15:55:47 <timeless> ... if you have friends/neighbors who'd be helpful, please invite them to the call
15:55:53 <timeless> ... thanks for your participation
15:55:55 <brucel> hugs all xxx
15:55:56 <timeless> [ Adjourned ]
15:55:56 <Zakim> -Jeff
15:55:58 <Zakim> -Wendy
15:55:59 <Zakim> -Marcos
15:56:05 <Zakim> -Bruce_Lawson?
15:56:07 <Zakim> -timeless
15:56:13 <Pdanet> Bye ! Tnx
15:56:33 <Zakim> -Pierre_Danet?
15:56:34 <Zakim> Team_JEFF(MIPTF)10:00AM has ended
15:56:34 <Zakim> Attendees were +33.1.43.92.aaaa, Jeff, [IPcaller], Wendy, Pierre_Danet?, Bruce_Lawson?, Marcos, +1.416.440.aabb, timeless
15:56:51 <timeless> s/Pdanet: XXX/Pdanet: Pierre Danet/
15:56:57 <timeless> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:56:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-most-minutes.html timeless
15:57:12 <timeless> s/+33.1.43.92.aaaa, //
15:57:17 <timeless> s/[IPcaller], //
15:57:25 <timeless> s/+1.416.440.aabb, //
15:57:28 <jeff> timeless, do you know offhand which do you need from me?
15:57:40 <wseltzer> s/zaki, this is most//
15:57:49 <wseltzer> s/zaki, schedule?//
15:58:22 <wseltzer> s/OOO/Bruce Lawson/
15:58:27 <timeless> s/It was Pierre, yes//
15:59:19 <timeless> i/Q for education/Topic: Attracting experts to TF/
15:59:48 <timeless> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:59:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-most-minutes.html timeless
16:00:42 <timeless> meeting: W3C Most Important Priorities TF Teleconference
16:00:49 <timeless> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:00:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-most-minutes.html timeless
16:01:09 <timeless> s/Pierre_Danet?/Pierre_Danet/
16:01:17 <timeless> s/Bruce_Lawson?/Bruce_Lawson/
16:01:26 <timeless> s/timeless, do you know offhand which do you need from me?//
16:01:29 <timeless> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:01:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-most-minutes.html timeless
16:02:24 <timeless> s/PPW/Opera/
16:02:30 <timeless> RRSAgent, draft minutes
16:02:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/11/14-most-minutes.html timeless
16:02:45 <timeless> trackbot, end meeting
16:02:45 <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel.
16:02:49 <timeless> RRSAgent, bye
16:02:49 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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