12:50:10 RRSAgent has joined #dwbp 12:50:10 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/10/17-dwbp-irc 12:50:16 zakim, this will be dwbp 12:50:16 ok, phila; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes 12:50:26 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:51:53 deirdrelee has joined #dwbp 12:53:45 trackbot, start meeting 12:53:47 RRSAgent, make logs 351 12:53:49 Zakim, this will be DWBP 12:53:49 ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes 12:53:50 Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference 12:53:50 Date: 17 October 2014 12:54:17 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:54:27 newton has joined #dwbp 12:54:34 chair: deirdrelee 12:55:07 yaso has joined #dwbp 12:55:44 DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started 12:55:51 + +1.626.487.aaaa 12:56:26 Hi 12:56:32 +[IPcaller] 12:56:41 lewismc has joined #dwbp 12:56:58 Zakim, [IPcaller] is here 12:56:58 +here; got it 12:58:53 zakim, who is here? 12:58:54 On the phone I see +1.626.487.aaaa, here 12:58:55 On IRC I see lewismc, yaso, newton, deirdrelee, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, trackbot 12:59:43 Zakim, here is deirdrelee 12:59:43 +deirdrelee; got it 13:00:13 +[IPcaller] 13:00:15 RiccardoAlbertoni has joined #DWBP 13:00:20 Zakim, +1.626.487 is lewismc 13:00:20 +lewismc; got it 13:00:22 zakim, ipcaller is me 13:00:22 +phila; got it 13:00:36 + +1.617.646.aabb 13:00:44 zakim, who is here? 13:00:44 On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, phila, +1.617.646.aabb 13:00:46 On IRC I see RiccardoAlbertoni, lewismc, yaso, newton, deirdrelee, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, trackbot 13:00:50 lewismc --> Lewis John McGibbney 13:01:12 Caroline_ has joined #DWBP 13:01:13 SumitPurohit has joined #DWBP 13:01:29 zakim, who is here? 13:01:29 On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, phila, +1.617.646.aabb 13:01:31 +RiccardoAlbertoni 13:01:31 On IRC I see SumitPurohit, Caroline_, RiccardoAlbertoni, lewismc, yaso, newton, deirdrelee, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, trackbot 13:01:41 hi to everyone.. 13:01:47 aabb is SumitPurohit 13:01:57 zakim, who is here? 13:01:57 On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, phila, +1.617.646.aabb, RiccardoAlbertoni 13:02:00 On IRC I see SumitPurohit, Caroline_, RiccardoAlbertoni, lewismc, yaso, newton, deirdrelee, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, trackbot 13:02:02 yaso_ has joined #dwbp 13:02:10 ericstephan has joined #dwbp 13:02:15 +Caroline 13:02:29 laufer has joined #dwbp 13:02:39 +HadleyBeeman 13:02:51 HadleyBeeman has joined #dwbp 13:03:00 + +1.509.554.aacc 13:03:10 atemezi has joined #dwbp 13:03:12 zakim, who is here? 13:03:12 On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, phila, +1.617.646.aabb, RiccardoAlbertoni, Caroline, HadleyBeeman, +1.509.554.aacc 13:03:14 On IRC I see atemezi, HadleyBeeman, laufer, ericstephan, yaso, SumitPurohit, Caroline_, RiccardoAlbertoni, lewismc, newton, deirdrelee, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, trackbot 13:03:14 aabb is me 13:03:18 zakim, yaso has newton 13:03:19 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso' 13:03:21 zakim, +1.509.554 is me 13:03:21 +ericstephan; got it 13:03:32 zakim, aabb is me 13:03:32 +SumitPurohit; got it 13:03:43 +[IPcaller] 13:03:43 zakim, who is here? 13:03:43 On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, phila, SumitPurohit, RiccardoAlbertoni, Caroline, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, [IPcaller] 13:03:45 On IRC I see atemezi, HadleyBeeman, laufer, ericstephan, yaso, SumitPurohit, Caroline_, RiccardoAlbertoni, lewismc, newton, deirdrelee, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, trackbot 13:03:53 +Caroline.a 13:04:00 zakim, who is here? 13:04:00 On the phone I see lewismc, deirdrelee, phila, SumitPurohit, RiccardoAlbertoni, Caroline, HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, [IPcaller], Caroline.a 13:04:02 On IRC I see atemezi, HadleyBeeman, laufer, ericstephan, yaso, SumitPurohit, Caroline_, RiccardoAlbertoni, lewismc, newton, deirdrelee, RRSAgent, Zakim, phila, trackbot 13:04:02 Zakim, IPcaller is me 13:04:02 +laufer; got it 13:04:11 Zakim, Caroline_ is yaso 13:04:11 sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_' 13:04:22 zakim, mute me 13:04:23 laufer should now be muted 13:04:26 scribe: yaso 13:04:27 Zakim, yaso has newton 13:04:27 sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso' 13:04:45 jerdeb has joined #DWBP 13:04:55 PROPOSED: aprove last week’s minutes https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141017 13:05:02 +1 13:05:03 +1 13:05:03 +1 13:05:04 +1 13:05:05 +1 13:05:05 s/aprove/approve/ 13:05:10 +1 13:05:11 +1 13:05:12 0 (I was not there) 13:05:16 +1 13:05:18 +1 13:05:29 +1 13:05:35 BernadetteLoscio has joined #dwbp 13:05:58 approved: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141017 13:06:09 Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141017 13:06:18 Topic: UCR 13:06:27 http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/ 13:06:31 HadleyBeeman has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141017 13:06:34 RESOLVED: Last week's minutes approved https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20141017 13:07:05 BernadetteLoscio has joined #dwbp 13:07:25 Zakim, Caroline_ has Bernadette 13:07:25 sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_' 13:07:34 Congrats Deirdre, Bernadette, and Phil for the publication of the draft UCR doc! 13:08:26 Nice work by Deirdre, Bernadette and Phil 13:09:24 + +1.609.947.aadd 13:09:24 phila: the UCs document it’s important because it’s a reference 13:09:53 Eric_Kauz has joined #DWBP 13:09:56 … that’s why that document is so important. We have to make sure that everything that the group thing it’s important is there 13:10:18 nathalia has joined #dwbp 13:10:25 deirdrelee: this is not the final draft, so we will continue working on that 13:10:27 we need to review the requirements to check if all of them r 13:10:31 markharrison has joined #dwbp 13:10:43 … i sent an email asking for 3 things: feedback about the UCs document 13:10:56 s/3 things/2 things/ 13:11:24 deirdrelee: I sent it to the sharepsi group 13:11:32 s/group thing/group think/ 13:12:02 + +44.122.374.aaee 13:12:15 … I anyone has any feedback or have ideas of who you can send it 13:12:24 Did you get my notye about the blog post deirdrelee 13:12:24 zakim, aaee is markharrison 13:12:25 +markharrison; got it 13:12:29 s/I/if/ 13:12:39 Yes email looked great! 13:12:43 I will be circulating to Apache Software Foundation lists 13:12:44 … everyone understand that’s ok? 13:13:08 I can circulate to people inside the UK government 13:13:12 the lod list 13:13:16 … that was on the w3c official blog 13:13:20 I am also circulating document within knowledge engineering groups here @Jet Propulasion Lab 13:13:26 +??P19 13:13:43 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Oct/0080.html Deirdre's E-mail 13:13:46 I'll be circulating it in different US scientific groups... 13:13:49 I'm sending to a developer that has made a app with datasets about bus lines from Sao Paulo (http://cruzalinhas.com/) 13:13:53 CarlosIglesias has joined #dwbp 13:13:58 deirdreelee: another one good option it’s open knowledge foundation people 13:13:58 Yes acho 13:13:58 zakim, who is noisy? 13:14:00 s/a app/an app/ 13:14:01 -??P19 13:14:09 phila, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: deirdrelee (56%), ??P19 (9%) 13:14:09 adrianoc has joined #DWBP 13:14:27 +??P19 13:14:34 … the OKF are woking on .. for CKAN, but I want to check if it’s ok to send for them 13:14:46 zakim, ??P19 is me 13:14:46 +CarlosIglesias; got it 13:14:55 Phila: they have developed an extension to CKAN that handles DCAT 13:15:24 +??P20 13:15:29 Eric_Kauz and I can also circulate within the GS1 Digital / GTIN+ on the Web group (which includes manufacturers and retailers interested in Linked Data / Open Data) 13:15:36 Zakim, who’s noisy? 13:15:36 I don't understand your question, yaso. 13:15:41 zakim, mute ??P20 13:15:41 ??P20 should now be muted 13:16:19 deirdrelee: We can circulate ir particulary to people that are going to TPAC 13:16:41 … that are registered for dwbp sessions 13:16:43 BernadetteLoscio_ has joined #dwbp 13:17:15 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants TPAC registrants (Member only) 13:17:15 action: Deirdrelee: to sent an email to TPAC registered people about UC document 13:17:15 Error finding 'Deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at . 13:17:40 action: deirdrelee: to sent an email to TPAC registered people about UC document 13:17:40 Error finding 'deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at . 13:17:44 BernadetteLoscio_ has joined #dwbp 13:17:46 -> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases Wiki page for new use cases 13:17:58 action: deirdrelee to sent an email to TPAC registered people about UC document 13:17:58 Error finding 'deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at . 13:18:20 I think Deirdre works 13:18:31 Zakim, Caroline has Bernadette_ 13:18:31 +Bernadette_; got it 13:18:40 action: Deirdre to sent an email to TPAC registered people about UC document 13:18:40 Created ACTION-98 - Sent an email to tpac registered people about uc document [on Deirdre Lee - due 2014-10-24]. 13:18:43 \o/ 13:19:28 BernadetteLoscio_ has joined #dwbp 13:19:34 deirdrelee: the idea is that the editors decide what are the objectives 13:19:42 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/TPAC_2014 13:19:43 … if we look at the BP document 13:19:58 +q 13:20:08 … in the BP document the editors are Caroline, Newton and Bernadette 13:20:19 ack Caroline_ 13:20:29 caroline_: yesterday we discussed a little bit about the document 13:20:36 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Proposed_structure#Table_of_Contents_DWBP 13:20:47 … bernadettte and I worked on the document 13:20:49 nathalia_ has joined #dwbp 13:21:29 Caroline_: we focused on the challenges 13:22:00 … we understand that we have to define the topics at the documents 13:22:23 … and that we have to explain a litle bit about these topics and work with the wg focused on the challenges 13:23:05 … our understanting was that, for example, metadata it’s a topic, and licences, data quality and provenance, are subtopics 13:23:28 I've just send my feedback to the new content of BP, by adding concrete questions .. at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Oct/0087.html 13:24:56 caroline_: anyway it would be great to discuss it by email before tpac 13:25:19 deirdrelee: what I understand is that the 1st structure it’s online now 13:25:37 … but what we would like to have before tpac is the table of contents 13:25:45 bernadette: I think we need to focus on both 13:26:09 … the idea is that we should agree that these are the things that we’re going to work in the document 13:26:24 … I’m not sure if we can work on that untill tpac 13:27:02 … this division was made based on the document of Use Cases 13:27:19 q+ 13:27:21 … we think that is really hard to extract the BP based only on what we have now 13:27:45 ack me 13:28:26 Phila: I think that you’re proposing to base our work on the UC doc and not on the charter 13:28:58 … the importante of our UC document because we can look at there and see 13:29:24 .. iI have one more question: I have to deliver a 1st draft of the document by november 13:29:53 … with the progress that yout’re making, do you think that is possible to have some content by november to deliver to the Europen Comission? 13:30:43 s/Europen/European 13:30:44 Bernadette: It’s better if you can write 13:30:53 we may have some content until November 12 13:31:03 for examplo for metadata 13:31:08 That's great, thanks BernadetteLoscio_ 13:31:22 and also we may have the description of each topic 13:31:27 ok? 13:31:35 Sorry, Bernadette - we could not hear your audio - it was breaking up badly 13:31:40 we can work on the description during TPAC 13:31:44 deirdrelee: to summarize, what we can have until TPAC is: some content to work on 13:32:00 … and more that just a table of contents 13:32:04 nathalia__ has joined #dwbp 13:32:11 yes... we need to agree on the themes 13:32:11 … so if you can update that at the wiki 13:32:21 and we can start to describe them 13:32:33 … the next deliverable it Data Quality vocab 13:32:51 +Caroline.aa 13:32:53 Phila: eric, ricardo and I had a call yesterday 13:33:10 s/ricardo/riccardo 13:33:51 RiccardoAlbertoni: perhaps we can have a 1st draft on data quality vocab by TPAC 13:34:46 Welcome Riccardo! 13:35:10 Caroline_ has joined #DWBP 13:35:39 Zakim, Caroline.aa is Caroline_ 13:35:39 +Caroline_; got it 13:35:53 deirdrelee: the other one is the data usage vocab 13:35:55 The DUV team plans to have a table of contents and some draft content completed 13:36:21 We will continue to collect requirements for data usage based on new use cases we 13:36:29 Zakim, Caroline.aa has BernadetteLoscio_ 13:36:29 sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline.aa' 13:36:33 are expecting from our group and using the data usage template. 13:36:43 ericstephan: we’re continuing the collect of use cases 13:37:01 … we’re hoping to bring those UCs to our F2F meeting 13:37:07 Zakim, Caroline_ has BernadetteLoscio_ 13:37:07 +BernadetteLoscio_; got it 13:37:14 zakim, ??P20 is adrianoc 13:37:15 … we have a lot of material 13:37:15 +adrianoc; got it 13:37:35 https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases 13:37:37 … we just have to make sure that we can organize it in a way that we can present it and work on it 13:38:00 deirdrelee: I set a new wiki page to add new use cases 13:38:00 Okay good to know 13:38:23 … more feedback or more requirement ideas or any new ideas 13:39:02 … we’ll have to split in to smaller groups 13:39:32 … it would be nice if you can show interest in topics 13:39:39 .. we have one more call before tpac 13:39:48 topic: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open 13:39:58 time to duck and run! 13:39:59 … the next topic in our agenda are open actions 13:40:06 :-) 13:40:13 … we have some minutes, so lets run into the list os actions 13:40:17 action-32? 13:40:17 action-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN 13:40:17 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32 13:40:18 action 32: 13:40:41 sorry I was not saying we can have the 1rt draft on data quality by TPAC I am not entailed to say that I am not an editor and I just committed myself in contributing on quality vocabulary, I am just saying that I will send my feedbacks before TPAC and check how I can help.. :) 13:40:46 q+ to offer some help 13:40:52 q- 13:40:56 q+ 13:41:34 phila: I have to proov to the comission that the share-PSI group is having a direct influence on this group 13:41:56 … one of the things that was highlighted 13:42:41 deirdrelee: we can reasign the action to phil? 13:42:41 maybe dcat AP is also relevant 13:43:03 nathalia has joined #dwbp 13:43:04 phila: yes, DCAT ap is very relevant 13:43:42 Zakim, yaso has nathalia 13:43:42 sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso' 13:43:46 action: phil to derive requirements from Share-PSI workshop, including the one about metadata federation from Spain, cf Action-32 13:43:46 Created ACTION-99 - Derive requirements from share-psi workshop, including the one about metadata federation from spain, cf action-32 [on Phil Archer - due 2014-10-24]. 13:43:46 deirdrelee: close action 32 13:43:56 action-46? 13:43:56 action-46 -- Yaso Córdova to Generate/collate further use cases concerning iot, transport, privacy -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN 13:43:56 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/46 13:43:56 close action 32 13:43:56 q- 13:44:11 yaso: I'm working on that. I hope to have more UC to put on the wiki 13:44:22 yaso: I;m working on that, I'm hoping to have more cases on the wiki next week 13:44:23 ... in the next week. But I'm still working on that 13:44:35 @phila: slide 17 of this http://www.w3.org/2012/Talks/0417-LD-Tutorial/Practice.pdf 13:44:42 Thanks HadleyBeeman 13:44:45 np :) 13:45:38 yaso: I think we can close that action 13:45:46 yaso: because we're going to discuss about that on tpac 13:45:50 close action-32 13:45:50 Closed action-32. 13:45:53 close action 63 13:45:58 close action-63 13:45:58 Closed action-63. 13:46:22 deirdrelee: we can probably close it 13:46:37 … but based on our last conversation, maybe it’s just an update 13:46:59 close action -68 13:47:09 close action-68 13:47:09 Closed action-68. 13:47:09 close action-68 13:47:09 Closed action-68. 13:47:25 close action-70 13:47:25 Closed action-70. 13:47:35 close action-72 13:47:35 Closed action-72. 13:48:18 deirdrelee: action 74 13:48:59 markharrison: I’ve added something on the wiki 13:49:27 deirdrelee: we can close action action-69 13:49:35 close action-69 13:49:35 Closed action-69. 13:49:42 close action-77 13:49:42 Closed action-77. 13:49:55 deirdrelee: action 79 for phil 13:50:10 phila: I need to do more on that 13:50:43 deirdrelee: we need to come back and dedicate some time 13:50:56 … maybe we should leave the COMURI until after tpac 13:51:02 Re action 78, here is the material I have written in the wiki about JSON-LD vs RDFa and about multi-lingual language tags https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/RDF_AND_JSON-LD_UseCases#Support_for_internationalisation_and_multi-lingual_strings 13:51:15 … that would be part of the BP discussion 13:51:20 action-84? 13:51:20 action-84 -- Newton Calegari to Send email to tomas about dataset versions document -- due 2014-09-26 -- OPEN 13:51:20 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/84 13:51:26 … action 84 13:51:48 newton: I’ll discuss with Tomas about that, it’s related to a draft that Flavio and I are working 13:52:09 deirdrelee: do you think that we can talk about that in tpac or... 13:52:14 newton: after tpac 13:52:33 action-86? 13:52:33 action-86 -- Yaso Córdova to Investigate face-to-face venues and dates for early 2015 -- due 2014-09-30 -- OPEN 13:52:33 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/86 13:53:03 yaso: I did that and sent a note to the cahirs about that. The options are on the table. Maybe we can discuss that in the next chairs meeting and then close that one 13:53:15 deirdrelee: So we'll leave it open for now 13:53:23 action-87? 13:53:23 action-87 -- Phil Archer to Add a use case from the rda discussions (for the data usage vocabulary) -- due 2014-10-03 -- OPEN 13:53:23 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/87 13:53:33 phila: I had a meeting and I have a good material on that 13:53:46 … probably I’ll work on that at the plain 13:54:01 … I’m trying to get envolved on that 13:54:33 … I just need to put that in to the document 13:54:41 deirdrelee: the next action was for hadley 13:55:02 HadleyBeeman: we did taht 13:55:10 s/taht/that 13:55:14 close action-90 13:55:14 Closed action-90. 13:55:55 action-96? 13:55:55 action-96 -- Eric Stephan to Set on the vocabulary call agenda of what we plan on delivering for tpac -- due 2014-10-17 -- OPEN 13:55:55 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/96 13:56:04 action-95? 13:56:04 action-95 -- Phil Archer to Check zakim booing for tpac -- due 2014-10-17 -- OPEN 13:56:04 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/95 13:56:27 phila: I did that.. it can be closed 13:56:35 close action-95 13:56:35 Closed action-95. 13:57:10 close action-96 13:57:10 Closed action-96. 13:57:16 close action-97 13:57:16 Closed action-97. 13:57:28 good job folks 13:58:01 o/ 13:59:01 bye all, nice weekend. 13:59:03 Bye 13:59:04 Thanks folks 13:59:05 -SumitPurohit 13:59:05 bye! 13:59:06 good bye 13:59:06 -ericstephan 13:59:07 Bye, have a good weekend! 13:59:07 - +1.609.947.aadd 13:59:08 yaso has left #dwbp 13:59:08 -phila 13:59:10 -HadleyBeeman 13:59:11 -deirdrelee 13:59:11 bye 13:59:13 -Caroline_ 13:59:14 -markharrison 13:59:14 -Caroline.a 13:59:15 -RiccardoAlbertoni 13:59:15 -laufer 13:59:17 -lewismc 13:59:17 -CarlosIglesias 13:59:23 Eric_Kauz has left #dwbp 13:59:25 Bye! 13:59:30 chair: Deirdre 13:59:37 Meeting: DWBP Weekly 13:59:41 scribe: yaso 13:59:56 regrets: Makx, Antoine 14:00:06 zakim, bye 14:00:06 leaving. As of this point the attendees were +1.626.487.aaaa, deirdrelee, lewismc, phila, +1.617.646.aabb, RiccardoAlbertoni, HadleyBeeman, +1.509.554.aacc, ericstephan, 14:00:06 Zakim has left #dwbp 14:00:09 ... SumitPurohit, laufer, +1.609.947.aadd, +44.122.374.aaee, markharrison, CarlosIglesias, Bernadette_, Caroline, BernadetteLoscio_, adrianoc 14:03:53 adrianoc has left #dwbp 14:05:15 Caroline_? 14:06:04 Are you there? I need to ask you. adrianoc was on the call today - which Adriano is that? veloso or Pereira? 14:06:26 cheers Phil, I'll get back to you on the blog...maybe over wknd 14:06:32 OK, Dee 14:06:34 Thanks 14:06:46 Hopefully it's a 3 minute job 14:07:03 BernadetteLoscio_, do you know which Adriano was on the call today please? 14:07:58 hi Phil! 14:08:07