12:56:38 RRSAgent has joined #dwbp 12:56:38 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/09/26-dwbp-irc 12:56:46 RRSAgent, make logs public 12:56:50 zakim, this will be dwbp 12:56:50 ok, phila; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes 12:57:16 phila has changed the topic to: Agenda https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140926 12:58:07 RiccardoAlbertoni has joined #DWBP 12:58:32 regrets: Bernadette, Laufer, Yaso, Caroline, Nathalia 12:58:41 DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has now started 12:58:48 +HadleyBeeman 12:58:59 +RiccardoAlbertoni 12:59:08 +[IPcaller] 12:59:15 zakim, ipcaller is me 12:59:15 +phila; got it 12:59:35 +[IPcaller] 12:59:36 MTCarrasco has joined #dwbp 12:59:41 +??P9 12:59:41 Zakim, IPcaller is me 12:59:42 +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it 12:59:55 zakim. ??P9 is me 13:00:22 zakim, ??P9 is MTCarrasco 13:00:22 +MTCarrasco; got it 13:00:28 zakim, who is noisy? 13:00:38 HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: RiccardoAlbertoni (77%), phila (13%), MTCarrasco (48%) 13:00:54 +SumitPurohit 13:01:01 I muted my mic 13:01:06 +[IPcaller] 13:01:18 zakim, {IPcaller} is me 13:01:18 sorry, deirdrelee, I do not recognize a party named '{IPcaller}' 13:01:26 zakim, [IPcaller] is me 13:01:26 +deirdrelee; got it 13:02:12 SumitPurhit has joined #DWBP 13:02:47 +Eric 13:02:52 ericstephan has joined #dwbp 13:03:26 zakim, scribe: MTcarrasco 13:03:26 I don't understand 'scribe: MTcarrasco', MTCarrasco 13:03:32 zakim, scribe MTcarrasco 13:03:32 I don't understand 'scribe MTcarrasco', MTCarrasco 13:03:50 scribe: MTCarrasco 13:04:42 eric has joined #dwbp 13:05:16 MakxDekkers has joined #dwbp 13:05:31 topic: last week minutes 13:05:49 antoine has joined #dwbp 13:05:55 Propose: last week meeting 13:06:14 I wasn't there 13:06:38 +[IPcaller] 13:06:39 +[IPcaller.a] 13:06:51 zakim, IPcaller is me 13:06:51 +antoine; got it 13:07:48 Proposed: Las week minutes 13:07:54 +1 13:07:55 +1 13:08:02 s/Las/Last/ 13:08:04 +1 13:08:06 +1 13:08:07 +1 13:08:09 +1 13:08:14 0 (wasn't there) 13:08:48 Resolved: Last week minutes 13:09:13 Issue: TPAC 13:09:13 Created ISSUE-45 - Tpac. Please complete additional details at . 13:10:04 Topic: TPAC 13:10:11 -> http://scl.aiprx.jdvhotels.com/hotels/california/silicon-valley-hotels/avatar-hotel/?aitrk=jdvSCL&teng=go&geng=branded&aeng=1&utm_source=aimedia&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=JDVavatar&keng=avatar%20hotel%20santa%20clara%20ca&meng=e&peng=1t1 Avatar Hotel 13:10:20 It is full or very expensive for the Santa Clara hotel 13:11:00 Conference season: hurry-up 13:12:22 Espresso does work wonders 13:12:32 DWBP very popular 13:14:01 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2014/registrants#DWBP Registrants for TPAC 13:14:40 Topic: Open issue 13:14:42 www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open 13:14:55 s/issues/issues/ 13:15:11 issue-3? 13:15:11 issue-3 -- Remove the name of contributors -- open 13:15:11 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/3 13:15:19 CarlosIglesias has joined #dwbp 13:15:48 -> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/usecasesv1.html Editor's Draft of the UCR 13:15:53 Already incorporated 13:16:26 Not close the issues until incorporated 13:16:51 Writting directrly to the concerned people - close when appropriated 13:17:28 Remaning: no feeback from the original proposers 13:17:45 Gaps in the use case doc 13:18:53 q+ 13:19:00 Short-term plan: get more use case - resolve the remaning - realease a new draft before TPAC 13:19:08 ack me 13:19:16 s/ a new draft/a new editors' draft 13:19:33 Phila: will review the doc - probably on Tuesday 13:21:03 q+ 13:21:24 Phila: many guest do not show-up or come for a short period - TBL registered - get the doc out so people have chance to look at it 13:21:45 +[IPcaller] 13:22:03 Phila: TPAC should be the last opportunity to shout for gaps 13:22:12 zakim, [IPcaller] is me 13:22:12 +CarlosIglesias; got it 13:22:25 +1 13:22:25 q+ 13:22:48 q? 13:22:55 ack eric 13:23:06 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Sep/0092.html 13:24:25 eric: new candidates use cases - better earlier than later 13:25:11 eric: data Usage Vocab - get more details 13:25:24 q+ to suggest timeline and talk about RDA use cases 13:26:42 eric: face-to-face the use case should be there and just finalise 13:27:07 ack deirdre 13:27:23 deirdrelee: agree with Phil and Eric 13:27:49 deirdrelee: doc mature to go out 13:28:10 deirdrelee: important - invitation for new cases 13:28:49 deirdrelee: approach specific case - academic, industry 13:29:09 deirdrelee: coordinate with editors to finalise 13:29:23 Bernadette and I have a rough list of 7 additional use cases that we would like to propose... 13:29:30 q+ re mailing lists to approach 13:29:50 deirdrelee: more details on use case - each contributor in there - go and ask 13:30:19 eric: good idea - go and ask the contributors for the details 13:30:42 deirdrelee: pay attention to the requirements 13:31:03 ack me 13:31:03 phila, you wanted to suggest timeline and talk about RDA use cases 13:31:17 deirdre - Good point about not forgetting about the requirements 13:32:24 Could an invitation for additional use cases be made to the TPAC observers list as well? 13:32:30 phila: sugesttion - "this doc is nearly complition" - highlight the requirements that come from that 13:32:56 phila: next week or the week after 13:33:02 phila: suggests resolving to publish a new draft next week or week after, so W3C comms will help us get readers/new use cases 13:33:56 phila: from research people might not express it explicetly - these desires must be capture in the doc 13:34:03 q+ 13:34:22 phila: Do you have notes from some of the RDA discussions? 13:34:52 phila: worry about the traffic - usage and similar 13:34:57 @phila they might be useful for us to look at 13:34:57 q+ 13:35:38 deirdrelee: not strong opinion about the formal status - draft, etc 13:36:08 phila: draft more leverage 13:37:09 I recognise I just gave myself an action... ;-) 13:37:27 deirdrelee: it is up to all of us to fill the gaps 13:37:31 +1 to deirdrelee 13:37:34 action: phila to add a use case from the RDA discussions (for the data usage vocabulary) 13:37:34 Created ACTION-87 - Add a use case from the rda discussions (for the data usage vocabulary) [on Phil Archer - due 2014-10-03]. 13:38:44 action: deirdre to prepare UCR document for vote to publish for next week 13:38:45 Created ACTION-88 - Prepare ucr document for vote to publish for next week [on Deirdre Lee - due 2014-10-03]. 13:38:57 q? 13:39:02 ack HadleyBeeman 13:39:02 HadleyBeeman, you wanted to discuss mailing lists to approach 13:39:24 HadleyBeeman: send it to related mailing lists 13:39:47 ack deirdrelee 13:39:52 q- deirdrelee 13:39:57 ack SumitPurhit 13:40:32 yes it will be useful @sumit! 13:40:35 SumitPurhit: use cases for the research community - preparing one 13:40:42 q? 13:40:49 action: sumit to create a use case on the research community 13:40:50 Created ACTION-89 - Create a use case on the research community [on Sumit Purohit - due 2014-10-03]. 13:41:10 99 more issues to go! 13:41:48 issue-3? 13:41:48 issue-3 -- Remove the name of contributors -- open 13:41:48 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/3 13:42:14 Topic: COMURI 13:42:16 dragoman.org/comuri.html 13:43:07 Some feedback in the mailing 13:43:29 phila: looking at it 13:44:28 2014... 25 years of the Web, 20 years of W3C 13:45:55 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open 13:46:48 deirdrelee: associate each use case with the contributor 13:46:53 +1 13:46:55 Proposed: close Issue-3 and Issue-9 leaving contributors in place as contact points 13:47:05 +1 we should keep them forever 13:47:18 +1 for keeping them forever 13:47:29 CSVW does list people 13:47:41 cf SKOS UCR http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-ucr/#UC-RadLex 13:48:15 +1 13:48:18 I note that UCR for the CSVW retains contributor names 13:48:19 +1 13:48:19 +1 13:48:20 +1 13:48:23 +1 13:48:24 +1 13:48:25 +1 13:48:33 close issue-3 13:48:33 Closed issue-3. 13:48:37 close issue-9 13:48:37 Closed issue-9. 13:48:45 issue-4 13:48:45 issue-4 -- Add a matrix table to summarize UCs vs challenges/requirements -- open 13:48:45 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/4 13:49:04 Resolved: close Issue-3 and Issue-9 leaving contributors in place as contact points 13:49:14 Matrix: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhTZf3B9yQ3odGVvU3pBazFsY3pyUVppNDFSZGtyQkE&usp=sharing#gid=7 13:49:52 q+ to make a suggestion 13:50:30 Instead of a table a listing of the use cases and a delimited list of requirements for each use case could be added if helpful 13:50:30 ack me 13:50:30 phila, you wanted to make a suggestion 13:51:33 -[IPcaller.a] 13:51:33 phila: the background good to support - avoid the too big document - archive it with a reference 13:51:49 issue-7 13:51:49 issue-7 -- Fix use cases without challenges or requirements -- open 13:51:49 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/7 13:52:05 Resolved: close issue 4, possibly coming back to the issue again in future 13:52:14 close issue-4 13:52:14 Closed issue-4. 13:52:39 +[IPcaller] 13:52:54 zakim, IPcaller is me 13:52:54 +MakxDekkers; got it 13:54:07 Proposed: Close issue-7 but where more detail is required (if required) the editors can go back to the contributors 13:54:34 +1 13:54:37 +1 13:54:41 +1 13:54:43 +1 13:54:50 Resolved: Close issue-7 but where more detail is required (if required) the editors can go back to the contributors 13:54:50 issue-9 13:54:50 issue-9 -- Remove the name of contributors -- closed 13:54:50 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/9 13:54:56 close issue-7 13:54:56 Closed issue-7. 13:55:14 issue-12 13:55:14 issue-12 -- Add a table to summarize the requirements -- open 13:55:14 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/12 13:55:28 Issue 12 has been done 13:55:33 Issue #10 is being addressed.... 13:55:38 close issue-12 13:55:38 Closed issue-12. 13:55:39 issue-17 13:55:39 issue-17 -- Improve Use case "Open City Data Pipeline" -- open 13:55:39 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/17 13:55:40 thanks eric! 13:55:49 issue-17? 13:55:49 issue-17 -- Improve Use case "Open City Data Pipeline" -- open 13:55:49 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/17 13:56:05 URL is added, job done :-) 13:56:14 close issue-17 13:56:14 Closed issue-17. 13:56:29 -antoine 13:57:00 issue-38 13:57:00 issue-38 -- Review motivation for R-SelectHighValue -- open 13:57:00 http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/38 13:57:45 +q 13:57:52 ack MakxDekkers 13:58:42 -HadleyBeeman 13:58:43 I did a proposal for text yesterday 13:59:18 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2014Sep/0086.html Makx's proposal 13:59:21 drop the HighValue and put it under Demand 14:00:15 deirdrelee: Makx's proposal outlines text to address the issue 14:00:25 JoaoPauloAlmeida has joined #dwbp 14:00:32 "Priority should be given to publishing data for which there is high demand or for which high usage can be expected." 14:00:34 this line: “Priority should be given to publishing data for which there is high demand or for which high usage can be expected.”? 14:00:34 proposed: close issue 38 using makx's suggested wording 14:00:40 ok 14:00:47 +1 to that 14:00:56 And that links with Recife Use case 14:01:08 that is definetely better than high value 14:01:09 thanks 14:01:12 Resolved: close issue 38 using makx's suggested wording 14:01:23 close issue-38 14:01:23 Closed issue-38. 14:01:36 bye bye 14:01:37 bye 14:01:38 bye! 14:01:40 -MTCarrasco 14:01:42 Bye, thanks 14:01:43 -Eric 14:01:43 Thanks everyone 14:01:45 -SumitPurohit 14:01:46 -JoaoPauloAlmeida 14:01:48 Bye 14:01:50 -CarlosIglesias 14:01:50 Bye! Thank you all :) 14:01:52 -phila 14:01:56 And thanks to MTCarrasco for scribing! 14:01:57 -deirdrelee 14:02:04 -RiccardoAlbertoni 14:02:23 End of meeting 14:02:24 zakim, bye 14:02:24 Zakim has left #dwbp 14:02:25 leaving. As of this point the attendees were HadleyBeeman, RiccardoAlbertoni, phila, JoaoPauloAlmeida, MTCarrasco, SumitPurohit, deirdrelee, Eric, antoine, CarlosIglesias, 14:02:25 ... MakxDekkers