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13:30:07 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
13:30:07 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start now
13:30:08 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
13:30:08 <trackbot> Date: 24 September 2014
13:30:30 <shadi> zakim, this is rd
13:30:30 <Zakim> ok, shadi; that matches WAI_RDWG()9:30AM
13:30:33 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:30:33 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
13:30:34 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:30:40 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:30:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vivienne, Shadi (muted)
13:31:20 <Zakim> +??P10
13:31:32 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:31:42 <peter_thiessen> Zakim, IPcaller is me
13:31:42 <Zakim> +peter_thiessen; got it
13:31:46 <peter_thiessen> zakim, mute me
13:31:46 <Zakim> peter_thiessen should now be muted
13:31:53 <annika> zakim, ??P10 is me
13:31:53 <Zakim> +annika; got it
13:31:58 <christos> christos has joined #rd
13:32:01 <annika> zakim, mute me
13:32:01 <Zakim> annika should now be muted
13:32:25 <peter_thiessen> zakim, unmute me
13:32:25 <Zakim> peter_thiessen should no longer be muted
13:32:29 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:32:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vivienne, Shadi, annika (muted), peter_thiessen
13:32:32 <Zakim> +??P19
13:32:43 <christos> zakim, ??P19
13:32:43 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P19', christos
13:32:46 <christos> zakim, ??P19 is me
13:32:46 <Zakim> +christos; got it
13:33:03 <peter_thiessen> zakim, mute me
13:33:03 <Zakim> peter_thiessen should now be muted
13:33:45 <shadi> Topic: Symposium Status: Way-Finding
13:33:53 <christos> shadi: symposium status
13:34:07 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2014/way-finding/
13:34:42 <peter_thiessen> (shadi: if it would help Christos with wayfinding discussion, I'm happy to scribe)
13:34:48 <christos> shadi: I did some openconf settings
13:37:41 <christos> viv: contacted some people doing research in the area
13:38:00 <christos> viv: managed to get into the google docs an dget some things there
13:38:20 <christos> sh: remind klauss to update the wiki page
13:39:04 <christos> sh: why some people are not to sure to submit a paper
13:39:15 <christos> viv: not sure if their projects are mature
13:39:30 <christos> viv: trying to convice and encourage them to submit
13:40:38 <christos> sh: we should maybe refere to tham as abstracts... extended abstracts
13:41:20 <christos> viv: one of the is a museum doing intrested stuff in way finding
13:41:55 <christos> sh: have you done any desk research related to call out persons
13:41:56 <christos> ?
13:42:07 <christos> q+
13:42:20 <christos> sh: or maybe developers
13:42:35 <annika> q+
13:44:54 <christos> sh: what about mainstream developers
13:44:55 <christos> ?
13:45:11 <christos> viv: I might be able to get a hold on a developers group
13:45:24 <christos> sh: search the libraries and aske them
13:45:33 <christos> good idea
13:45:57 <annika> zakim, unmute me
13:45:57 <Zakim> annika should no longer be muted
13:46:18 <christos> annika: I sent out the invitation to a couple of people from germany
13:46:34 <christos> annika: maybe need a better coordination point
13:47:33 <christos> sh:switching to dropbox might be better...
13:48:11 <christos> sh: could be good to have a good mix from researchers and developers and mainstream developers
13:48:12 <peter_thiessen> zakim, unmute me
13:48:12 <Zakim> peter_thiessen should no longer be muted
13:48:32 <christos> peter: I could ask around and think about where to send it
13:48:47 <peter_thiessen> zakim, unmute me
13:48:47 <Zakim> peter_thiessen was not muted, peter_thiessen
13:48:57 <peter_thiessen> zakim, mute me
13:48:57 <Zakim> peter_thiessen should now be muted
13:49:25 <christos> the more diverge the persepctive the better the symposium will be
13:50:06 <christos> sh: there is a lot of work in these things so it's a good time
13:51:01 <shadi> Topic: Report Titles
13:51:33 <christos> sh: we call the reports reserch reports
13:51:59 <christos> sh: maybe too broad and not reflecting correctly the work
13:52:14 <christos> sh: maybe something between symposium report and research report
13:52:29 <christos> sh: symposium are more objective
13:52:57 <christos> research report however migth be broader
13:53:37 <christos> sh: a better title to reflect on the work
13:54:11 <peter_thiessen> Could we add a / :)  Research/Symposium Report?
13:55:33 <christos> viv: why not combining them?
13:56:18 <annika> +1 for combining
13:56:21 <peter_thiessen> zakim, unmute me
13:56:21 <Zakim> peter_thiessen should no longer be muted
13:56:58 <christos> sh: do you feel its a full research report or a symposium report?
13:57:29 <peter_thiessen> zakim, mute me
13:57:29 <Zakim> peter_thiessen should now be muted
13:57:33 <shadi> s/its a full/it is between a full
13:58:05 <peter_thiessen> zakim, unmute me
13:58:05 <Zakim> peter_thiessen should no longer be muted
13:58:13 <Zakim> -peter_thiessen
13:58:14 <Vivienne> good night all
13:58:15 <Zakim> -christos
13:58:15 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:58:16 <Zakim> -annika
14:01:28 <Zakim> -Vivienne
14:01:28 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
14:01:28 <Zakim> Attendees were Vivienne, Shadi, peter_thiessen, annika, christos
14:09:52 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:09:52 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:09:52 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:10:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:10:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/24-rd-minutes.html trackbot
14:10:01 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:10:01 <RRSAgent> I see no action items