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15:17:55 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
15:17:55 <Zakim> ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 43 minutes
15:18:07 <Lisa_Seeman> chair: Lisa_Seeman
15:18:54 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
15:18:56 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+   review of actions
15:18:57 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ identifying user strategies.
15:18:59 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ cognitive function table
15:19:00 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  should the document be divided to two (Michael's question)
15:19:02 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  editing github
15:19:03 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  Next FTF
15:19:05 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+  approval of new content,
15:19:06 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ How will we receive comments?
15:19:08 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
15:24:06 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: Mary Jo Mueller, Jim Allen, E.A. Draffan,Kinshuk, John Foliot,Steve Lee,Barry Johnson
15:52:45 <Zakim> WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
15:52:52 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:53:50 <Zakim> + +1.508.856.aaaa
15:54:23 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, [IPcaller] is me
15:54:23 <Zakim> +Lisa_Seeman; got it
15:56:18 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/att-0029/cognativefunctiontable.html
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15:59:22 <Zakim> + +1.780.934.aabb
16:00:01 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, aabb is Kinshuk
16:00:01 <Zakim> +Kinshuk; got it
16:00:34 <Zakim> +??P9
16:00:42 <janina> zakim, ??P9 is me
16:00:44 <Zakim> +janina; got it
16:01:03 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:01:03 <Zakim> agendum 1. "review of actions" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:01:45 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: Mary Jo Mueller, Jim Allen, E.A. Draffan,Rich , John Foliot,Steve Lee,Barry Johnson
16:02:20 <Zakim> + +44.289.442.aacc
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16:03:10 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: 	Tony_Doran
16:03:32 <Zakim> + +1.502.632.aadd
16:03:40 <Zakim> + +1.512.445.aaee
16:04:12 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, aaee is suzan Koehane
16:04:12 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaee is suzan Koehane', Lisa_Seeman
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16:04:21 <Zakim> + +1.804.986.aaff
16:04:23 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, +aaee is suzan Koehane
16:04:23 <Zakim> I don't understand '+aaee is suzan Koehane', Lisa_Seeman
16:04:40 <Zakim> + +44.203.618.aagg
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16:04:58 <Zakim> +Debbie_Dahl
16:05:01 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, +aadd is elle
16:05:02 <Zakim> sorry, Lisa_Seeman, I do not recognize a party named '+aadd'
16:05:16 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, aadd is elle
16:05:16 <Zakim> +elle; got it
16:05:39 <neilmilliken> zakim, +44203618 is me
16:05:39 <Zakim> +neilmilliken; got it
16:05:44 <Tony_Doran> agenda: this
16:05:47 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
16:07:11 <Tony_Doran> Review of simplification technology completed
16:08:03 <Tony_Doran> Usability review not progressed.
16:08:46 <Tony_Doran> ADHD subgroup work updated, ADHD to progress with meeting next week.
16:09:45 <Tony_Doran> Review of Daisy - no info, Kate not on call.
16:10:13 <Zakim> +??P17
16:10:17 <Tony_Doran> Security technology, John working on this. Posts made to the group for feedback
16:10:24 <Tony_Doran> agenda+
16:10:39 <Lisa_Seeman> azakim, next item
16:10:43 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:10:43 <Zakim> agendum 2. "identifying user strategies." taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:11:35 <Lisa_Seeman> http://accessibility.athena-ict.com/TechniquesCOGA.html
16:12:06 <Tony_Doran> Lisa - User Strategies - bundle access strategies and techniques together
16:13:01 <Tony_Doran> Looking at what people are doing, update the techniques etc
16:13:25 <JohnRochford> q+
16:15:04 <Lisa_Seeman> ack j
16:16:54 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:18:37 <JohnRochford> +1
16:18:49 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa to add tags for cognitive functions to the techniques page
16:18:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-44 - Add tags for cognitive functions to the techniques page [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-09-22].
16:19:50 <Tony_Doran> Group to collect techniques from user groups and pass in to the techniques/strategies document
16:20:59 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Kinshuk to  the techniques page the wiki
16:21:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-45 -  the techniques page the wiki [on Dr Kinshuk - due 2014-09-22].
16:21:24 <Tony_Doran> Strategies/techniques page to be added to wiki for easy editing
16:21:37 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:21:37 <Zakim> agendum 3. "cognitive function table" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:21:43 <Tony_Doran> agenda+
16:22:00 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:22:33 <neilmilliken> 2 secs
16:23:13 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/att-0029/cognativefunctiontable.html
16:23:28 <neilmilliken> q+
16:23:56 <Lisa_Seeman> ack n
16:24:17 <Lisa_Seeman> http://accessibility.athena-ict.com/TechniquesCOGA.html
16:25:31 <Tony_Doran> Neil - There will be complimentary groups and contradictory groups
16:25:47 <Tony_Doran> techniques may not work for all groups
16:26:41 <Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/att-0029/cognativefunctiontable.html
16:27:39 <Tony_Doran> Difficulty in splitting up cognitive functions for the table.
16:29:41 <Tony_Doran> Is there a better way to represent/tabulate this information?
16:29:41 <JohnRochford> q+
16:30:11 <Lisa_Seeman> ack john
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16:31:05 <Tony_Doran> Translating to tags is a challenge
16:31:16 <Tony_Doran> Tag names could be long
16:31:39 <Tony_Doran> q+
16:33:27 <neilmilliken> +q
16:33:39 <Tony_Doran> Tony - are long tags a bad thing?
16:34:15 <Tony_Doran> Neil - longer tags are easier to get wrong etc - esp for those who may transpose letters etc
16:35:02 <Tony_Doran> No prefect answer
16:35:07 <Lisa_Seeman> Short term memory
16:35:22 <Lisa_Seeman> Short Term Memory
16:35:49 <Lisa_Seeman> Sound Patterns Memory
16:36:37 <Lisa_Seeman> Short Term Memory-Sound Patterns Memory
16:36:59 <Tony_Doran> Lisa - need to differentiate types of short term memory  etc
16:37:06 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:37:15 <neilmilliken> Q-
16:37:27 <Lisa_Seeman> ack tony
16:37:56 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe:  JohnRochford
16:38:59 <neilmilliken> Happy with that
16:39:04 <Lisa_Seeman> quantifier are limiting. more specific as we concatnate terms
16:39:37 <Tony_Doran> Great - you will only need to be more specific as you are being more specific ;)
16:40:02 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Will work on cognitive-function table, create notes on defining terms, and have it ported to Wiki.
16:40:51 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa to tidy cognitive functions table and  set it up on the wiki
16:40:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-46 - Tidy cognitive functions table and  set it up on the wiki [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-09-22].
16:41:51 <MichaelC> ack me
16:41:57 <Tony_Doran> I need to drop off, sorry. Thanks.
16:42:09 <Zakim> - +44.289.442.aacc
16:43:45 <MichaelC> ackme
16:43:46 <MichaelC> ack me
16:43:51 <JohnRochford> Michael: Proposes using table for cognitive-functions in Wiki. More control and accessibility will be possible in final document.
16:44:50 <JohnRochford> Michael: Table column headings are fine, but row headings contain too much detail.
16:47:24 <JohnRochford> Michael: Unless someone, such as Janina, identifies a problem, let's use the table in the Wiki as it is.
16:47:58 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I am comfortable with that if Janina has no problem.
16:48:12 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:48:12 <Zakim> agendum 4. "should the document be divided to two (Michael's question)" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:48:29 <MichaelC> ack me
16:51:01 <JohnRochford> Michael: Suggests publishing research module first, as one doc, then gap analyses as another doc.
16:51:31 <JohnRochford> +1 Michael's suggestion
16:51:36 <ddahl> +1 to publishing two documents
16:51:59 <JohnRochford> Neil: +1
16:52:28 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Does anyone object?
16:52:33 <Tim> +1
16:53:18 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I will send email to the list with the question about 2 docs, and ask if there are any objections.
16:53:58 <JohnRochford> Lisa: After 48 hours with no objection, I will assume the question/request is passed.
16:54:06 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:54:06 <Zakim> agendum 5. "editing github" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:54:14 <Zakim> - +1.804.986.aaff
16:54:33 <MichaelC> agenda+ Status on wiki for tracking user agent defects on ARIA 1.1 features
16:54:43 <MichaelC> agenda+ Issue 631 Property to provide keyboard help when element has focus
16:54:56 <MichaelC> agenda+ Review Open Actions and set completions dates
16:56:04 <Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-coga-minutes.html
16:57:33 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:57:33 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Next FTF" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:57:34 <JohnRochford> Michael: Will send instructions to list.
16:59:43 <neilmilliken> I will offer that
16:59:44 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Need host organization for face-to-face meeting.
17:00:05 <JohnRochford> Neil: Offers to host
17:00:31 <Zakim> -Kinshuk
17:01:03 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
17:01:24 <janina> janina has left #coga
17:01:31 <Zakim> -janina
17:01:34 <JohnRochford> Neil: Will look at dates for meeting rooms.
17:01:54 <ddahl> need to leave, talk to you next week
17:02:00 <Zakim> -Debbie_Dahl
17:02:23 <JohnRochford> rrsagent, stop log
17:02:23 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'stop log', JohnRochford.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:02:29 <Zakim> - +1.512.445.aaee
17:02:37 <Zakim> -elle
17:02:39 <Zakim> -neilmilliken
17:03:00 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, make logs public
17:03:25 <JohnRochford> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet
17:03:47 <Lisa_Seeman>  rrsagent, create minutes
17:03:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/15-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
17:04:19 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, please part
17:04:19 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.508.856.aaaa, Lisa_Seeman, +1.780.934.aabb, Kinshuk, janina, +44.289.442.aacc, +1.502.632.aadd, +1.512.445.aaee, +1.804.986.aaff,
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17:04:26 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, please part
17:04:26 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/15-coga-actions.rdf :
17:04:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa to add tags for cognitive functions to the techniques page [1]
17:04:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/15-coga-irc#T16-18-49
17:04:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kinshuk to  the techniques page the wiki [2]
17:04:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/15-coga-irc#T16-20-59
17:04:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa to tidy cognitive functions table and  set it up on the wiki [3]
17:04:26 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/15-coga-irc#T16-40-51