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14:54:48 <trackbot> Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
14:54:48 <trackbot> Date: 10 September 2014
14:55:00 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Sep/0005
14:55:10 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agends: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Sep/0005
14:55:14 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:55:19 <Steven> Regrets: Nick, Philip
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15:03:42 <alain> Zakim, I am [IPcaller]
15:03:42 <Zakim> ok, alain, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
15:05:03 <Zakim> +??P14
15:05:10 <Steven> zakim, I am ?
15:05:10 <Zakim> +Steven; got it
15:05:33 <Steven> Topic: JSON representation
15:06:46 <Steven> Steven: I got a comment from someone about edge cases in the JSON transformation
15:06:57 <Steven> ... {v:null}
15:07:08 <Steven> ... which comes out as
15:07:15 <Steven> ... <v type="null""/>
15:07:24 <Steven> ... {v:""}
15:07:31 <Steven> <v></v>
15:07:39 <Steven> ... <v></v>
15:07:52 <Steven> ... assume <josn><json> around these
15:07:59 <Steven> s/jos/jso/
15:08:17 <Steven> ... {v:[]}
15:08:25 <Steven> ... <v type="array"></v>
15:08:31 <Steven> ... {v:[""]}
15:08:39 <Steven> ... <v type="array"></v>
15:08:48 <Steven> ... {v:{}}
15:08:58 <Steven> ... the last one is not covered in the spec.
15:09:14 <Steven> ... I can see two ways to solve
15:09:38 <Steven> ... one is to mark empty arrays and objects with an attribute
15:10:14 <Steven> ... (this is only so that when you export it again as json, you know how to write it)
15:10:27 <Steven> ... there is nothing essential to internal processing
15:10:43 <Steven> ... the other solution is to makr texts with a type.
15:10:59 <Steven> ... Numbers are already marked with a type, to distinguish them from texts
15:11:29 <Steven> ... eg {a: "1"; b: 2}
15:12:03 <Steven> ... <a>1</a><b type="number">1</b>
15:12:26 <Steven> ... if we introduce a type="text" (or "string" doesn't matter)
15:13:00 <Steven> ... then you can distinguish between an empty array and an array with one element of an empty string.
15:13:28 <Steven> Alain: I like type="text"
15:14:36 <Steven> ... I would liek to mark empty arrays
15:14:56 <Steven> Steven: The problem with that is if the element gets updated, and is no longer empty, it still has the attribute...
15:15:07 <Steven> ... so you can't rely on that attribute.
15:15:58 <Steven> s/liek/like/
15:16:24 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to update JSON algorithm
15:16:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1977 - Update json algorithm [on Steven Pemberton - due 2014-09-17].
15:16:59 <Steven> Topic: Progress, and Generating Spec from the wiki
15:16:59 <Steven> http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/WD-xforms20-20140702/Overview.html
15:16:59 <Steven> http://www.cwi.nl/~steven/forms/WD-xforms-xpath-20140702/Overview.html
15:17:07 <Steven> Erik: No progress on my part yet.
15:17:23 <Steven> Steven: I hope by next week we'll have some comments in, anyway.
15:17:32 <Steven> Topic: AOB
15:17:41 <Steven> Alain: None.
15:17:44 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
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15:17:50 <Zakim> -Steven
15:17:50 <Zakim> IA_XForms()11:00AM has ended
15:17:50 <Zakim> Attendees were ebruchez, [IPcaller], Steven
15:17:57 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:17:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/10-forms-minutes.html Steven
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15:24:35 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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15:25:37 <Steven> s/makr/mark/
15:25:38 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:25:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/09/10-forms-minutes.html Steven
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