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25 Aug 2014

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Attendees

Present
Regrets
E.A._Draffan, Debra_Ruh, Kinshuk, Deborah_Dahl, Susann_Keohane
Chair
Lisa_Seeman
Scribe
KateDeibel, lisa

Contents


<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/

<Tony_Doran> Zakim aabb is Tony_Doran

<Tony_Doran> Oh - Thanks John

<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: KateDeibel

<Tony_Doran> I know of none - but would really like to see some

john rochford: doing a literature review for cognitive disability user testing... no responses. does anyone on the phone know of literature that these techniques actually work?

lisa attended a conference and found people citing research as a starting point for the research

<Tony_Doran> Not web specific but we base a lot of our work on Research - this carries over in terms of techniques (highlighting text etc)

<Tony_Doran> http://www.texthelp.com/UK/Research

<Tony_Doran> May be of use

<Tony_Doran> http://www.texthelp.com/uk/research/product-research/

<Tony_Doran> http://www.texthelp.com/uk/research/industry-research-and-articles/

Tony Doran: http://www.texthelp.com/uk/research/product-research/

Kate: http://www.texthelp.com/uk/research/product-research/
... http://www.computing.dundee.ac.uk/groups/accessible-computing

set scribe

kate: Dawe, M. (2006). Desperately seeking simplicity: How young adults with cognitive disabilities and their families adopt assistive technologies. In Proceedings of the SIGCHI conference on human factors in computing systems (pp. 1143–1152). New York: ACM Press.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/

review actions, groups

<JohnRochford> Thanks, Kate!

john... let's talk a little afterwards if you have time

<JohnRochford> Yes, Kate, I do.

<JohnRochford> I have been publishing blog posts about our group's activities. See http://clearhelper.wordpress.com/

John: I have been publishing blog posts about our group's activities. See http://clearhelper.wordpress.com/

what other technologies and approaches should we be reviewing for next draft

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page

<Lisa_Seeman> https://w3c.github.io/wcag/coga/gap-analysis.html

<Lisa_Seeman> echnologies reviews:

<Lisa_Seeman> Assistive technologies such as AAC and AAC core vocabularies

<Lisa_Seeman> Reading techs

<Lisa_Seeman> Adaptive technologies for learning

<Lisa_Seeman> APIP and IMS

<Lisa_Seeman> Daisy and epub

<Lisa_Seeman> Aria

<Lisa_Seeman> Indi ui

<Lisa_Seeman> Fluid

<Lisa_Seeman> ISO

<Lisa_Seeman> Voice ML and menu systems

<Lisa_Seeman> RDFA

<Lisa_Seeman> Web Security (Including CAPTUR)

<Lisa_Seeman> Web RTC (real time communications)

<Lisa_Seeman> WCAG

<Lisa_Seeman> Access for all and GPII

<Lisa_Seeman> EMMA

<Lisa_Seeman> Debra Dahl

<Lisa_Seeman> Text Simplification

<Lisa_Seeman> Also taken from HTML 5 wishlist:

<Lisa_Seeman> Full Transcript

<Lisa_Seeman> John Foliot is interested in exploring this.

<Lisa_Seeman> Media Descriptions

<Lisa_Seeman> John Foliot.

<Lisa_Seeman> Date UI Widgets

<Lisa_Seeman> Janina

<Lisa_Seeman> Input type numeric

<Lisa_Seeman> Emotion Markup

<Lisa_Seeman> Debra Dahl

<Lisa_Seeman> Haptic Output

<Lisa_Seeman> Gaming

<Lisa_Seeman> Referencing UAAG

<Lisa_Seeman> Media

<Lisa_Seeman> Web Payments

<Lisa_Seeman> Footnotes, End notes, Annotations, Definitions

<Lisa_Seeman> ePub, ARIA

<Lisa_Seeman> Real Time Chat

<Lisa_Seeman> Janina

<Lisa_Seeman> Accesskey

<Lisa_Seeman> John Foliot

<Lisa_Seeman> Menus

<Lisa_Seeman> Cynthia

<Lisa_Seeman> WCAG

<Tony_Doran> Agree

<Lisa_Seeman> debra: technologies and standards

<Tony_Doran> Aria is a standard too etc

<Tony_Doran> Daisy format/spec is a beast of a thing! Not all talk - 6 variant formats IIRC.

<Tony_Doran> Some have less text etc - yes

<richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.idpf.org/epub/vocab/structure/

<Tony_Doran> Daisy also has a protected version for copyrighted texts

<Lisa_Seeman> Daisy and epub

Kate: I'll take a stab at Daisy and Epub

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: katedeilbel to review Daisy and Epub [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Error finding 'katedeilbel'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Katherine Deibel to review Daisy and Epub [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> 'Katherine' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., kdeibel, kmancuso).

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: KDeibel to review Daisy and Epub [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-37 - Review daisy and epub [on Katherine Deibel - due 2014-09-01].

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Lisa to review voiceml [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-38 - Review voiceml [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-09-01].

<ddahl> I think you mean VoiceXML rather than voiceml

<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Non_W3C

john: will tackle the web security overview

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: John_Rochford to review web security technologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Error finding 'John_Rochford'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: JRochford to review web security technologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action06]

<trackbot> Error finding 'JRochford'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: Rochford to review web security technologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action07]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-39 - Review web security technologies [on John Rochford - due 2014-09-01].

<Lisa_Seeman> http://www.w3.org/community/webpayments/

<Lisa_Seeman> not taking that on

proposal for metrics

<Lisa_Seeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Aug/0027.html

<Lisa_Seeman> Are there developer strategies

<Lisa_Seeman> Are they effective- The extent that they make the content accessible (by definition above) IE: fully, significant, slight

<Lisa_Seeman> Reliable - Are they: tested or proposed (proposed statgies are only interesting if we consider that they are likely to be very useful)

<Lisa_Seeman> Documented - Are their clear guidelines and techniques inside WAI

<Lisa_Seeman> Suported in standards - Can this stratgy be via HTML 5 and other open W3C standards in: a single page, adaptable page, WCAG complient, Can the user find alternitve content page that issues there strategies

<Lisa_Seeman> Also we should identify:

<Lisa_Seeman> Are there safety concerns

<Lisa_Seeman> Frustration level: Are they useable but frustrating

<Lisa_Seeman> a?

<JohnRochford> Coy, Rich, Coy

<janina> Regrets, I need to leave a little early today for the dPub call ...

<Lisa_Seeman> learnign curve

<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: lisa

<Tony_Doran> lol

<Lisa_Seeman> john: operational aspects

rage quit

<Tony_Doran> % chance of keyboard thrown out window?

<Tony_Doran> My bad!

<JohnRochford> possible definition of frustration = abandonment of task even though capable of performing it

<Lisa_Seeman> replace frustrion level level

<Lisa_Seeman> resolved: the metrics are adopted as draft

<Lisa_Seeman> Primary Elements

<Lisa_Seeman> Menus and navigation

<Lisa_Seeman> Site navigation

<Lisa_Seeman> Use voice ML menus

<Lisa_Seeman> Use web of things menu

<Lisa_Seeman> Page and content layout

<Lisa_Seeman> Presentation

<Lisa_Seeman> Language use

<Lisa_Seeman> Symbol use

<Lisa_Seeman> Capture and cookies

<Lisa_Seeman> Forms with multi stages, such as enrolling in healthcare, make an appointment, enroll in online education

<Lisa_Seeman> Web Payments

<Lisa_Seeman> Date UI Widgets

<Lisa_Seeman> DHTML Apps (participate in online education)

<Lisa_Seeman> Document authoring - saving finding

<Lisa_Seeman> Use email

<Lisa_Seeman> Being aware of a change, identify important content

<Tony_Doran> Apologies I need to leave the call

<Lisa_Seeman> Search, research, and find information

<Lisa_Seeman> Read and share news

<Lisa_Seeman> Find and read emergency information

<Lisa_Seeman> Find out rites and social service information

<Lisa_Seeman> Directions / locations

<Lisa_Seeman> Request information

<Lisa_Seeman> Secondary Elements

<Lisa_Seeman> Use Media

<Lisa_Seeman> Use Real Time Chat

<Lisa_Seeman> Use Social media, Share

<Lisa_Seeman> Play

<Tony_Doran> Bye

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: John_Rochford to review web security technologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: JRochford to review web security technologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action06]
[NEW] ACTION: katedeilbel to review Daisy and Epub [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Katherine Deibel to review Daisy and Epub [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: KDeibel to review Daisy and Epub [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Lisa to review voiceml [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Rochford to review web security technologies [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/25-coga-minutes.html#action07]
 
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