IRC log of html-media on 2014-08-19

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14:56:22 [trackbot]: Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
14:56:22 [trackbot]: Date: 19 August 2014
14:56:23 [Zakim]: ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
14:56:48 [paulc]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Aug/0013.html
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15:00:57 [paulc]: zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:00:57 [Zakim]: +paulc; got it
15:01:06 [paulc]: zakim, who is here?
15:01:06 [Zakim]: On the phone I see paulc
15:01:07 [Zakim]: On IRC I see BobLund, Zakim, RRSAgent, paulc, glenn, trackbot
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15:04:02 [paulc]: zakim, who is here?
15:04:02 [Zakim]: On the phone I see paulc, glenn, jdsmith, Aaron_Colwell, +1.408.536.aaaa
15:04:02 [joesteele]: Zakim, aaaa is me
15:04:04 [Zakim]: On IRC I see jamil, markw, pladd, joesteele, ddorwin, acolwell, jdsmith, BobLund, Zakim, RRSAgent, paulc, glenn, trackbot
15:04:04 [Zakim]: +joesteele; got it
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15:05:22 [joesteele]: Chair: paulc
15:05:27 [joesteele]: Scribe: joesteele
15:05:36 [Zakim]: +ReimundoGarcia
15:05:43 [Zakim]: +[Microsoft]
15:05:52 [adrianba]: zakim, [Microsoft] is me
15:05:52 [Zakim]: +adrianba; got it
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15:06:11 [paulc_]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Aug/0013.html
15:06:18 [paulc_]: rrsagent, make the minutes
15:06:18 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html paulc_
15:06:25 [paulc_]: zakim, who is here?
15:06:25 [Zakim]: On the phone I see paulc, glenn, jdsmith, Aaron_Colwell, joesteele, markw, davide, ddorwin, ReimundoGarcia, adrianba
15:06:27 [Zakim]: On IRC I see paulc_, adrianba, davide, jamil, markw, pladd, joesteele, ddorwin, acolwell, jdsmith, BobLund, Zakim, RRSAgent, paulc, glenn, trackbot
15:06:58 [joesteele]: Topic: MSE Status and Bugs
15:07:01 [Zakim]: + +1.303.661.aacc
15:07:13 [BobLund]: zakim, aacc is me
15:07:13 [Zakim]: +BobLund; got it
15:07:15 [joesteele]: Topic: Review ACTION items
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15:07:25 [paulc_]: ACTION-59?
15:07:25 [trackbot]: ACTION-59 -- Paul Cotton to Coordinate with web apps on the streams api, give them mse requirements and timeline -- due 2013-12-17 -- OPEN
15:07:25 [trackbot]: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/59
15:07:49 [joesteele]: paulc: dug up this old action because we have a dependency
15:07:51 [paulc_]: See best status: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2014JulSep/0305.html
15:07:53 [Zakim]: +pal
15:07:59 [joesteele]: ... sent the other chairs a note and got this back
15:08:13 [joesteele]: ... just asking the editors what their plan of action is
15:08:28 [joesteele]: ... if no response from Art or Charles then will followup in next week
15:08:44 [joesteele]: Topic: MSE Test Suite Status
15:09:13 [joesteele]: paulc: 2 items -- set of 7 pull requests, important ones are the open ones
15:09:14 [paulc_]: Open pull requests: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Amedia-source+is%3Apr
15:09:45 [joesteele]: ... in particular last time we discussed was end of June, original pull request for blink media source test was still outstanding
15:09:56 [paulc_]: Aaron's original pull request is not closed: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/725
15:09:57 [joesteele]: s/media source/MediaSource/
15:10:04 [joesteele]: paulc: still not closed
15:10:15 [joesteele]: ... did not get many volunteers for this
15:10:40 [joesteele]: ... sent MarkW a note about this, he had promised to find someont to look at this
15:10:43 [paulc_]: See Paul's request to Mark: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Aug/0017.html
15:10:52 [joesteele]: markw: I did that, but no results as yet
15:10:58 [joesteele]: ... folks were on vacation last time
15:11:25 [joesteele]: paulc: we have a fair number of open pull requests many from Shishimaru
15:11:33 [joesteele]: ... we need to make progress
15:11:46 [markw]: s/promised to find someone/promised to try to find someone/
15:12:04 [joesteele]: ... one on getting us out of CR, and one on test suites and one on test results
15:12:06 [markw]: s/promised to find someont/promised to try to find someone/
15:12:16 [joesteele]: ... no progress on getting these resolved
15:12:24 [joesteele]: ... can stay in CR forever if not addressed
15:12:30 [joesteele]: ... what are the next steps here?
15:12:35 [acolwell]: q+
15:12:44 [joesteele]: ... would like a company to step forward to promise to make progress on this
15:12:46 [paulc_]: ack acol
15:12:59 [joesteele]: acolwell: believe I have made all the changes needed for my initial import
15:13:15 [joesteele]: ... remaining are comments that UI suggests I don't close because they were raised by others
15:13:22 [joesteele]: ... needs more comments from folks who raised them
15:13:34 [joesteele]: ... believe I have resolved the issues despite what the UI says
15:13:47 [joesteele]: paulc: Jerry or Adrian -- can you unblock this?
15:13:56 [joesteele]: acolwell: I can close, but it warns me not to
15:14:06 [joesteele]: jdsmith: I will circle back with Chris on that
15:14:19 [joesteele]: paulc: please send us an email on that so we have a record
15:14:26 [joesteele]: jdsmith: ok
15:14:40 [joesteele]: paulc: what about volunteers for other pull requests?
15:14:57 [joesteele]: acolwell: others look like they may be dups -- is that OK?
15:15:25 [joesteele]: paulc: maybe make comments to that effect -- otherwise folks might submit additional tests that are duos
15:15:29 [joesteele]: s/dous/dups/
15:15:36 [joesteele]: s/duos/dups/
15:15:46 [joesteele]: acolwell: ok
15:16:06 [joesteele]: paulc: is there anyone who can volunteer themselves or someone else?
15:16:13 [adrianba]: q+
15:16:15 [joesteele]: acolwell: I can look at the posted stuff
15:16:21 [paulc_]: ack adrian
15:16:55 [joesteele]: adrianba: I think we are running into a common situation, which is that folks on the call are concerned with the spec, and folks who do testing are not here
15:17:11 [joesteele]: ... maybe we need to ask the testing folks for this? Testing Task Force?
15:17:32 [joesteele]: paulc: they have been MIA for this Task Force -- wiki is dormant and they have not been attending WG meetings
15:17:44 [acolwell]: q+
15:17:53 [joesteele]: ... I think you are suggesting we are asking the wrong audience?
15:18:11 [joesteele]: adrianba: Testing interest group might be the right group
15:18:25 [joesteele]: paulc: would have thought this would be the right group -- we have the vested interest
15:18:48 [joesteele]: +q
15:19:04 [joesteele]: ... I am really asking the member companies how we will get through this
15:19:29 [joesteele]: acolwell: agree with the point about this task force, but I disagree that folks in the testing task force are just interested in testing
15:19:38 [joesteele]: paulc: here is the link
15:19:49 [paulc_]: Testing IG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-test-infra/
15:20:04 [acolwell]: joesteele: s/acolwell/adrianb/ on that previous comment
15:20:17 [joesteele]: paulc: sending to this list might be one tack we can take
15:20:17 [paulc_]: ack acol
15:20:45 [Zakim]: -ddorwin
15:20:54 [paulc_]: ack joe
15:21:29 [joesteele]: joesteele: will poke around and see if I can find someone
15:21:38 [joesteele]: markw: I will try again as well
15:22:23 [joesteele]: paulc: will try to close Aarons original request, Aaron will close additional duos if possible, I will send email for guidance from other editors, Joe and Mark will look for additional resources
15:22:37 [joesteele]: s/duos/dups/
15:22:44 [joesteele]: Topic: EME status and bugs
15:23:42 [joesteele]: s/acolwell: agree with /adrianba: agree with/
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15:24:04 [joesteele]: rrsagent, generate minutes
15:24:04 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
15:24:09 [joesteele]: Zakim, who is here?
15:24:09 [Zakim]: On the phone I see paulc, glenn, jdsmith, Aaron_Colwell, joesteele, markw, davide, ReimundoGarcia, adrianba, BobLund, pal, +1.425.605.aadd
15:24:11 [Zakim]: On IRC I see pal, paulc_, adrianba, davide, jamil, markw, pladd, joesteele, ddorwin, acolwell, jdsmith, BobLund, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, trackbot
15:24:47 [ddorwin]: zakim, aadd is me
15:24:47 [Zakim]: +ddorwin; got it
15:25:05 [joesteele]: Topic: Bug 26575 - Separate creation of the MediaKeySession from "message" event generation
15:25:11 [joesteele]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26575
15:25:47 [joesteele]: paulc: some very specific changes in here
15:26:21 [joesteele]: ... is this related to the persistence discussion?
15:26:28 [joesteele]: ddorwin: not related to that
15:26:37 [joesteele]: paulc: anyone else reviewed yet?
15:26:42 [joesteele]: not me
15:26:56 [joesteele]: jdsmith: I would like to loook at the problem more
15:27:06 [joesteele]: paulc: will put on the agenda for next week
15:27:10 [joesteele]: s/loook/look/
15:27:27 [joesteele]: jdsmith: changes seems reasonable, but want to look at the underlying issue
15:27:34 [joesteele]: Topic: Bug 26600 - Text is confused between persistent session vs persistent licenses
15:27:40 [joesteele]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26600
15:28:15 [joesteele]: paulc: Mark you want to talk about this?
15:28:53 [joesteele]: markw: trying to make a proposal everyone could agree to, but this is not likely to be controversial
15:28:58 [joesteele]: ... can work this out in the bug
15:29:18 [joesteele]: paulc: can close in the next week or at least come closer
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15:29:52 [joesteele]: ddorwin: agree that text is not exactly clear, was trying to fix existing text which is totally broken
15:30:06 [joesteele]: ... problem with persistent license in temporary session
15:30:19 [joesteele]: Topic: EME bugs with a proposal
15:30:20 [joesteele]: Topic: Bug 25268 - Reduce the burden on applications to deduplicate initData from many needkey events
15:30:28 [joesteele]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25268#c7
15:30:36 [paulc_]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25268#c7 contains Glenn's proposal
15:30:38 [joesteele]: paulc: last week we thought we could resolve with no change
15:30:58 [ddorwin]: q+
15:31:00 [joesteele]: paulc: can we close?
15:31:31 [joesteele]: ddorwin: he thought we could move on, didn't see him say we could close this. WORKSFORME might not be right at this point
15:31:44 [adrianba]: i agree with david
15:32:23 [joesteele]: paulc: you are right -- he said delay for later version
15:32:29 [paulc_]: Last meeting discussion: http://www.w3.org/2014/08/12-html-media-minutes.html#item09
15:32:46 [joesteele]: ... will just move this to the bottom of the queue
15:32:56 [joesteele]: Topic: Bug 24771 - Provide guidance on object and CDM lifetime (including when events are guaranteed to be fired)
15:33:05 [joesteele]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24771
15:33:49 [joesteele]: paulc: David you said you will make the change after the re-org
15:33:52 [paulc_]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24771#c4
15:33:58 [joesteele]: ... just make sure folks are aware this is coming
15:34:19 [joesteele]: ... you were going to start the re-org right after the heartbeat
15:34:35 [joesteele]: ddorwin: would like to deal with the createSession/loadSession bug
15:34:58 [joesteele]: paulc: probably 25% of outstanding bugs are in that group
15:35:04 [joesteele]: .. record as dependent
15:35:13 [joesteele]: s/.. record/... record/
15:35:25 [joesteele]: Topic: EME bugs awaiting input from Task Force or actions
15:35:35 [joesteele]: Topic: Bug 26372 - Revisit the need for EME-specific DOMException names and the "error" attribute and event
15:35:42 [joesteele]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26372
15:35:55 [ddorwin]: q+
15:36:07 [joesteele]: paulc: this is the one about the diagnostic error code, last week Jerry was going to open a new bug
15:36:29 [paulc_]: ack dd
15:36:41 [joesteele]: ddorwin: this is not directly releated to the system code bug, have since renamed this bug
15:37:00 [joesteele]: ... we have Promises and those deal with that type of errors, some issues we don't have ways to report yet
15:37:09 [joesteele]: s/releated/related/
15:37:26 [joesteele]: ddorwin: seems like there are a few issues, maybe we don't need generic solution
15:37:36 [ddorwin]: The new summary is "Report issues/events not related to a specific method call"
15:37:47 [joesteele]: jdsmith: commenting on the system code bug, have not prioritized this yet as working on loadSession issues.
15:37:57 [joesteele]: ... think the DOMException bug this was tied to is already resolved
15:38:17 [joesteele]: paulc: David, what will happen to bug 26372? most recent change of the summary
15:38:29 [joesteele]: ... you are saying we don't have a proposal for this
15:38:29 [Zakim]: -pal
15:38:33 [joesteele]: ddorwin: yes
15:38:39 [paulc_]: New summary is "Report issues/events not related to a specific method call"
15:39:33 [joesteele]: paulc: you made a change to the doc last week to remove the error related stuff
15:39:38 [joesteele]: ... then you changed this bug
15:39:55 [joesteele]: ... who is on point to make a proposal to report issues not related to a specific message call?
15:40:04 [joesteele]: ... want to know who to go to
15:40:33 [joesteele]: glenn: the reporter is the default assignee right?
15:41:00 [joesteele]: paulc: David has lot on his plate -- can we get someone else in parallel to Jerrys work?
15:41:11 [joesteele]: ... not hearing volunteers, going to move on
15:41:17 [joesteele]: jdsmith: I will take this bug
15:41:32 [joesteele]: Topic: [Bug 26332] Applications should only use EME APIs on secure origins (e.g. HTTPS)
15:41:38 [joesteele]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26332
15:41:49 [joesteele]: paulc: seem to have folks strongly on both sides
15:42:15 [joesteele]: ... not sure how we will get consensus on this item -- just want to bring it up again
15:42:25 [joesteele]: ... this is a "polarizing" issue
15:42:47 [joesteele]: Topic: [Bug 26401] Key message destinationURL usage is not reflected in examples
15:42:53 [joesteele]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26401
15:43:06 [joesteele]: paulc: Joe offered to update this bug
15:43:20 [joesteele]: ... traffic back and forth between David and Joe
15:43:27 [joesteele]: q+
15:44:01 [paulc_]: ack joe
15:44:06 [paulc_]: See start of dialogue at https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26401#c2
15:44:17 [paulc_]: Joe: Discussion brought out at least two issues
15:44:26 [paulc_]: ... message versus needKey
15:44:55 [paulc_]: ... Joe had an opinion that David's response has clarified and there might be a needed change
15:45:04 [Zakim]: -ddorwin
15:45:24 [paulc_]: ... In last set of comments, David was indicating that he did not think the URL should come from the InitData
15:45:29 [ddorwin]: i was dropped
15:45:36 [Zakim]: +ddorwin
15:46:33 [paulc_]: ... Joe wants discussion about whether PSHH boxes should not contain URLs or if they do they should not be used by CDM
15:46:44 [paulc_]: s/PSHH/PSSH/
15:47:18 [paulc_]: ... Original design of PSSH boxes was if the information is in the boxes then the CDM should be able to use it
15:47:51 [ddorwin]: PSSH boxes can contain URLs, but EME implementations may not expose them as discussed in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25920
15:47:52 [paulc_]: ... Side issue about where else the URL could come from
15:47:55 [jdsmith]: q+
15:48:08 [paulc_]: ack jd
15:48:32 [joesteele]: jdsmith: is is historically common for the PSSH to contain the URL and to use it -- we think it should be there and should be used as well
15:49:08 [joesteele]: ddorwin: essentially "used" and "exposed" mean the same thing here
15:49:26 [joesteele]: s/is is/it is/
15:49:34 [ddorwin]: Also, PSSH boxes are a problem for interoperability. We should not encourage more data in PSSH boxes.
15:50:00 [joesteele]: paulc: should we continue in the bug? Jerry can you add that to the bug?
15:50:19 [joesteele]: ddorwin: should we close the other as a dup?
15:50:32 [Zakim]: -ddorwin
15:50:34 [paulc_]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25920 was RESOLVED FIXED
15:51:03 [ddorwin]: Joe wants to extract URL(s) from PSSH data. That is what https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25920 was about
15:51:15 [joesteele]: jdsmith: that bug was specifically about default URL is did not cover the initData containing a URL
15:51:28 [ddorwin]: i'm disconnected again
15:51:55 [joesteele]: jdsmith: we had a discussion that said the CDM could provide the destinationURL -- that includes any source the CDM wishes to use
15:52:00 [joesteele]: paulc: so this is not a dup?
15:52:07 [joesteele]: jdsmith: this is a revious issue
15:52:10 [Zakim]: +ddorwin
15:52:16 [joesteele]: joesteele: do not believe this is a dup
15:52:24 [joesteele]: s/a revious/a previous/
15:52:47 [joesteele]: paulc: Jerry believes that bug is not a true dup
15:52:54 [joesteele]: ... given the time let's go broad
15:53:03 [joesteele]: ... leave that item for more discussion
15:53:18 [joesteele]: Topic: Bug 25923 - isTypeSupported should be asynchronous
15:53:26 [joesteele]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25923
15:53:51 [joesteele]: paulc: this bug looks like it is dependent on bug 26207 -- what should we do with this now?
15:54:14 [joesteele]: ddorwin: sounded like they had a lot in common
15:54:34 [joesteele]: paulc: think we are waiting to see if other changes will emerge -- can we make this change now?
15:54:44 [joesteele]: ddorwin: there are good reasons for and against this change
15:54:53 [joesteele]: ... could be ok but difficult
15:55:03 [joesteele]: ... input from Steve (a developer) that would rather not do this
15:55:09 [joesteele]: ... don't think we have a clear path
15:55:21 [joesteele]: ... this makes the model much more complicated for canPlay types
15:55:33 [joesteele]: paulc: concerns on both sides then?
15:55:37 [joesteele]: ddorwin: yes
15:55:59 [joesteele]: paulc: seems like a call for input from other task force members on the path to follow -- Mark do you have an opinion?
15:56:06 [joesteele]: markw: not really
15:56:14 [joesteele]: ... as long as it is there
15:56:19 [Zakim]: -ddorwin
15:56:26 [joesteele]: paulc: Jerry would help if you can look at it
15:56:36 [Zakim]: +ddorwin
15:56:50 [joesteele]: jdsmith: agreed. Have viewed this as a mixed rational change -- not the most pressing thing to resolve
15:57:09 [joesteele]: Topic: Do we need LoadSession?
15:57:31 [joesteele]: paulc: Joe offered to followup up -- he did. Email has generated a response from David
15:57:40 [paulc_]: Update from Joe: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Aug/0015.html
15:57:48 [paulc_]: David has responded and Joe will review
15:58:01 [joesteele]: Topic: EME Use cases Wiki
15:58:12 [joesteele]: paulc: Joe offered to update the wiki with outstanding bugs
15:58:14 [ddorwin]: q+
15:58:20 [paulc_]: https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Media_Task_Force/EME_Use_Cases now contains links to bugs
15:58:25 [paulc_]: We need TF members to review
15:58:32 [joesteele]: joesteele: yes -- not sure completely accurate -- please review
15:58:41 [joesteele]: Topic: Any other business?
15:59:00 [joesteele]: paulc: propose that we meet again next week, push MSE out two weeks, just EME next week
15:59:07 [joesteele]: ... David when will re-org happen?
15:59:14 [joesteele]: ddorwin: planning to do that this week
15:59:29 [joesteele]: paulc: if you get that done, just let the TF know so they can review
15:59:35 [joesteele]: ddorwin: ok
15:59:39 [joesteele]: paulc: Thanks everyone!
15:59:42 [paulc_]: rrsagent, generate the minutes
15:59:42 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html paulc_
15:59:45 [joesteele]: rrsagent, generate minutes
15:59:45 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
15:59:46 [Zakim]: -BobLund
15:59:48 [Zakim]: -adrianba
15:59:49 [joesteele]: Zakim, who is here?
15:59:49 [Zakim]: On the phone I see paulc, glenn, jdsmith, Aaron_Colwell, joesteele, markw, davide, ReimundoGarcia, ddorwin
15:59:51 [Zakim]: On IRC I see markw_, pal, paulc_, adrianba, davide, jamil, pladd, joesteele, ddorwin, acolwell, jdsmith, BobLund, Zakim, RRSAgent, glenn, trackbot
15:59:51 [Zakim]: -markw
15:59:53 [Zakim]: -Aaron_Colwell
15:59:53 [Zakim]: -davide
15:59:53 [Zakim]: -glenn
15:59:53 [Zakim]: -paulc
15:59:54 [Zakim]: -jdsmith
15:59:56 [Zakim]: -joesteele
16:00:09 [Zakim]: -ReimundoGarcia
16:00:12 [Zakim]: -ddorwin
16:00:13 [Zakim]: HTML_WG()11:00AM has ended
16:00:13 [Zakim]: Attendees were paulc, glenn, jdsmith, Aaron_Colwell, +1.408.536.aaaa, joesteele, markw, davide, +1.425.936.aabb, ddorwin, ReimundoGarcia, adrianba, +1.303.661.aacc, BobLund, pal,
16:00:13 [Zakim]: ... +1.425.605.aadd
16:01:58 [davide]: davide has left #html-media
16:03:09 [joesteele]: s/UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: can stay/paulc: can stay/
16:03:11 [joesteele]: rrsagent, generate minutes
16:03:11 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
16:05:38 [joesteele]: s/withthe/with the/
16:05:44 [joesteele]: rrsagent, generate minutes
16:05:44 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
16:09:52 [joesteele]: s/we think it/we (Microsoft) think it/
16:09:54 [joesteele]: rrsagent, generate minutes
16:09:54 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
16:10:36 [joesteele]: rrsagent, generate minutes
16:10:36 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
16:10:39 [joesteele]: s/default URL is/default URL's and/
16:14:14 [joesteele]: s/default URL is/default URL\'s and/
16:14:19 [joesteele]: s/followup up/follow up/
16:14:21 [joesteele]: rrsagent, generate minutes
16:14:21 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/19-html-media-minutes.html joesteele
16:19:02 [joesteele]: Zakim, bye
16:19:02 [Zakim]: Zakim has left #html-media
16:19:10 [joesteele]: rrsagent, bye
16:19:10 [RRSAgent]: I see no action items