IRC log of i18n on 2014-08-07
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- trackbot, prepare teleconference
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- Zakim, this will be 4186
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- ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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- Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 07 August 2014
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Aug/0003.html
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- Regrets: Felix, Mati
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- rrsagent, set logs world
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- Chair: Addison Phillips
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- Scribe: Addison Phillips
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- ScribeNick: aphillip
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- Attendees were +1.408.536.aaaa
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- Zakim, passcode?
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- the conference code is 4186 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), annevk
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- +aphillip
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see aphillip
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- On IRC I see annevk, leandro, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, r12a, fsasaki, fantasai, trackbot
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- + +1.408.536.aaaa
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- zakim, +1.408.536.aaaa is leandro
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- +leandro; got it
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see aphillip, leandro
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- On IRC I see annevk, leandro, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, r12a, fsasaki, fantasai, trackbot
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- +[IPcaller]
- 14:00:10 [annevk]
- Zakim, [IP is me
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- +annevk; got it
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see aphillip, leandro, annevk
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- On IRC I see annevk, leandro, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, r12a, fsasaki, fantasai, trackbot
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- zakim, dial richard please
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- ok, r12a; the call is being made
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- +Richard
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- Topic: Encoding LC
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/25
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- +JcK
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- addison: (summary)
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2014JulSep/0023.html
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- annevk: larry hasn't answered my questoin (see above)
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- ... he hasn't replied
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2014JulSep/0003.html
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- annevk: in previous month, Mark Davis made a suggestion
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- richard: ... written with the intention of replacing IANA charset...
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- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Jul/0027.html
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- annevk: "for the purposes of specifications that reference this specificatoin"
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- ... and specifications that reference them
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- "For the purposes of specifications using this specification, that registry is obsolete."
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- This specification, rather than the > > IANA Character Sets registry, is the recommended normative reference > > for specifications that define Web protocols and document formats and > > their implementations.
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- addison: talked about going back to charmod
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- annevk: can make WG proposal to larry
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- action: addison: reply to encoding false statement with proposed text mentioning that we discussed with anne
- 14:20:45 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-328 - Reply to encoding false statement with proposed text mentioning that we discussed with anne [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-08-14].
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- action: richard: re-ping martin for test results on encoding test results
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- Created ACTION-329 - Re-ping martin for test results on encoding test results [on Richard Ishida - due 2014-08-14].
- 14:25:56 [annevk]
- http://futbolenlatele.com/
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- richard: was working on uniview last week
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- ... put in entities for utf-8
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- ... rather than windows-1252 characters
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- annevk: thats in the html layer
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- ... mapping of range to 1252
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- richard: applies even when using entities?
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- annevk: if using utf-8 you can enter them raw
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- +[IPcaller]
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- € != 0xc2.80
- 14:29:25 [annevk]
- http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#consume-a-character-reference
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- zakim, [IPcaller] is Jan
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- +Jan; got it
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- -annevk
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- -Jan
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- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see aphillip, leandro, Richard, JcK
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- On IRC I see JcK, annevk, leandro, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip, r12a, fsasaki, fantasai, trackbot
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- Topic: Agenda
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- Topic: Encoding
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- jck: ietf hasn't really seen/paid attention to this yet
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- richard: asked by html community to make this happen
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- ... poliitical issues nothing to do with us?
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- jck: implicit or explicit deprecation of ICR
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- ... causes "bad things" to happen with various registries that are the structre of the internet
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- addison: will send draft out right away
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- ... give a day or so for wg comments
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- Topic: Time Zones
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- action-327?
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- action-327 -- Addison Phillips to Update the time zone proposal and then file an issue against html5.next about it -- due 2014-08-07 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/327
- 14:45:29 [aphillip]
- https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/HTML5TimeZone
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- addison: propose we go to www-international first before filing a bug?
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- Topic: Action Items
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- action-315?
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- action-315 -- Addison Phillips to Close satisifed items in css-text -- due 2014-07-03 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/315
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/2
- 14:50:52 [aphillip]
- close action-315
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- Closed action-315.
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- close action-326
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- Closed action-326.
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- Topic: RADAR
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/products/41
- 14:54:28 [r12a]
- http://www.w3.org/Search/Mail/Public/search?type-index=www-international&index-type=t&keywords=21678&search=Search
- 14:54:49 [aphillip]
- https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21678
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- addison: would we formally object?
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- action: addison: remind everyone to review longdesc issue 21678 for next week
- 14:56:38 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-330 - Remind everyone to review longdesc issue 21678 for next week [on Addison Phillips - due 2014-08-14].
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- Topic: AOB?
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- Topic: Info Share
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- richard: uniview... mentioned it last week
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- http://rishida.net/uniview/
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
- 14:58:21 [r12a]
- http://rishida.net/blog/?p=1121
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- richard: now supports unicode 7; comments welcome (to me)
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- -leandro
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- zakim, drop richard
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- Richard is being disconnected
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- I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were aphillip, leandro, annevk, Richard, JcK, Jan
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- Present: Addison, Richard, Leandro, JcK, AnneVK (guest)
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- Present+ Jan
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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- zakim, bye
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: addison: reply to encoding false statement with proposed text mentioning that we discussed with anne [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-irc#T14-20-45
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- ACTION: richard: re-ping martin for test results on encoding test results [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-irc#T14-22-38
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- ACTION: addison: remind everyone to review longdesc issue 21678 for next week [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/08/07-i18n-irc#T14-56-37