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20:48:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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20:48:56 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be INDIE
20:48:56 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_Indie()5:00PM scheduled to start in 12 minutes
20:48:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference
20:48:57 <trackbot> Date: 06 August 2014
20:49:12 <janina> agenda?
20:49:35 <janina> Meeting: IndieUI Task Force Teleconference
20:49:35 <janina> Chair: Janina_Sajka
20:49:35 <janina> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
20:49:35 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2014 http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/
20:49:35 <janina> agenda+ Editor's Report
20:49:37 <janina> agenda+ Open Items with Web Apps' Editing TF [See below]
20:49:40 <janina> agenda+ Testing Conversation; Polyfills
20:49:42 <janina> agenda+ User Context Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/3
20:49:45 <janina> agenda+ Events Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/2
20:49:48 <janina> agenda+  Other Business
20:49:51 <janina> agenda+ Be Done
20:50:47 <Zakim> WAI_Indie()5:00PM has now started
20:50:54 <Zakim> +??P0
20:50:59 <janina>  zakim, ??P0 is me
20:50:59 <Zakim> +janina; got it
20:51:09 <janina> zakim, take up item 1
20:51:09 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
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20:59:31 <Zakim> +??P1
20:59:55 <jasonjgw> zakim, ??p1 is jasonjgw
20:59:55 <Zakim> +jasonjgw; got it
21:00:21 <Zakim> +??P2
21:00:50 <kurosawa> zakim, ??P2 is me
21:00:50 <Zakim> +kurosawa; got it
21:01:09 <Zakim> +[Apple]
21:01:17 <jcraig> Zakim, Apple is jcraig
21:01:17 <Zakim> +jcraig; got it
21:01:40 <jcraig> Zakim, who is on the phone?
21:01:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see janina, jasonjgw, kurosawa, jcraig
21:01:55 <jcraig> agenda
21:01:58 <jcraig> agenda?
21:02:26 <jcraig> scribe: jcraig
21:03:09 <Zakim> +??P4
21:03:32 <jcraig> Zakim, next item
21:03:32 <Zakim> agendum 2. "TPAC 2014 http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/" taken up [from janina]
21:05:14 <jcraig> js: interaction time with Events TF in WebApps WG at TPAC. Maybe the full group.
21:05:50 <jcraig> zakim, next item
21:05:50 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Editor's Report" taken up [from janina]
21:07:24 <jasonjgw> James: obtaining support and comments from implementors, including WebKit developers within and outside WebKit accessibility.
21:07:53 <jcraig> webkit ax already on board
21:08:21 <jcraig> but need mainstream features to ship at the same time as our already-prototyped ax implementation
21:08:26 <jcraig> scribe: jcraig
21:08:31 <jcraig> zakim, next item
21:08:31 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Open Items with Web Apps' Editing TF" taken up [from See below]
21:09:24 <jcraig> js: late notice with Ben and other participants, try to regroup in two weeks
21:10:34 <jcraig> js: Encourage the conversation that started with Ryosuke's comments. Keep the conversation going.
21:11:20 <jcraig> js: It's clear there is interest in the broader perspective, so not just limited to editing
21:12:45 <jcraig> zakim, next item
21:12:45 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Testing Conversation; Polyfills" taken up [from janina]
21:13:38 <jcraig> jc: haven't heard back from Hans. should ask someone else.
21:13:52 <jcraig> js: Jason Kiss may be another candidate
21:14:05 <jcraig> js: but his W3C time is full too
21:15:39 <jcraig> jc: uitrigger and other physical events for dismissrequest would be a management polyfill task
21:15:55 <jcraig> s/management/manageable/
21:16:07 <jcraig> e.g. esc key or click on cancel button
21:16:15 <jcraig> that is the uitrigger
21:18:01 <jasonjgw> James: it should be possible to develop a basic prototype of dismissRequest in a day; a more robust prototype would take longer.
21:18:29 <jasonjgw> Janina suggests the "proof of concept" basic prototype as a starting point.
21:19:04 <jasonjgw> James proposes finding someone to do it before TPAC.
21:19:42 <jcraig> in time to demo at tpac
21:29:22 <jcraig> James to demo concepts of User Context at TPAC
21:29:32 <jcraig> zakim, next item
21:29:32 <Zakim> agendum 6. "User Context Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/3" taken up [from janina]
21:31:47 <jcraig> zakim, next item
21:31:47 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Events Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/2" taken up [from janina]
21:33:35 <jcraig> action-79: stub for uimanipulator included most recent working draft
21:33:35 <trackbot> Notes added to action-79 Explore @uitrigger or @uicontroller (e.g. allows continuous event control for slider thumbs; clickables for dismissrequest, etc.).
21:33:38 <jasonjgw> James: Action 79 can be closed - UI triggers/UIManipulator included in most recent workign draft.
21:33:49 <jcraig> close action-79
21:33:49 <trackbot> Closed action-79.
21:34:40 <jcraig> zakim, next item
21:34:40 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Other Business" taken up [from janina]
21:36:42 <jcraig> js: reconsideration of call time
21:37:14 <jcraig> jc: wait for jason's move and other's status changes and then discuss again
21:39:17 <jcraig> zakim, next item
21:39:17 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Be Done" taken up [from janina]
21:39:29 <jcraig> zakim, close item 9
21:39:29 <Zakim> agendum 9, Be Done, closed
21:39:30 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
21:39:45 <Zakim> -jcraig
21:39:47 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
21:39:47 <Zakim> -janina
21:39:49 <Zakim> -kurosawa
21:39:51 <Zakim> -jasonjgw
21:39:51 <Zakim> WAI_Indie()5:00PM has ended
21:39:51 <Zakim> Attendees were janina, jasonjgw, kurosawa, jcraig, Michael_Cooper
21:39:56 <jcraig> rrsagent, make minutes
21:39:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/06-indie-ui-minutes.html jcraig
21:40:16 <jcraig> rrsagent, make logs public
21:41:31 <jcraig> s/someone to do it before /someone to write polyfill for Events "dismissrequest" before /
21:42:31 <jcraig> s/webkit ax already/jc: webkit ax already/
21:42:51 <jcraig> rrsagent, make minutes
21:42:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/06-indie-ui-minutes.html jcraig
21:43:17 <jcraig> s/but need mainstream/jc: but need mainstream/
21:43:38 <jcraig> s/e.g. esc key o/jc: e.g. esc key o/
21:43:53 <jcraig> s/that is the uitrigger/jc: that is the uitrigger/
21:44:12 <jcraig> s/in time to demo at tpac/jc: in time to demo at tpac/
21:44:25 <jcraig> rrsagent, make minutes
21:44:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/08/06-indie-ui-minutes.html jcraig
21:45:08 <jcraig> rrsagent, please part
21:45:08 <RRSAgent> I see no action items